Smash Wii U Hidden Palutena's Guidance found - Who is it?

[AlvisCPU]

Everyone's getting way too aggressive in here

I don't want to repeat what everyone else said - however I'd like to say that it CAN'T be for a removed character. If another character was planned at some point, why would they get the voice actors to say lines that don't name them? What reason would there be for these lines to be so ambiguous?

It's either a placeholder so that the game doesn't crash if something goes wrong.
Or it's for DLC, where all DLC characters will have this same ambiguous phrase said for them.
Possibly unused for Mii characters.

I don't think the "another dimension" thing is significant in implying a character. To me, it sounds like she means "from somewhere else," which could either be interpreted as "not from the Kid Icarus world" (pretty well anyone else in Smash) or "not from the Smash universe" (DLC (The internet is another dimension, right?)).

 

[Kozmiic27]

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0KivwmAoIq3

Apparently, a hidden guidance was made for an unknown character. Any idea who this may be?

Magolor
Please sakurai.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0KivwmAoIq3

Apparently, a hidden guidance was made for an unknown character. Any idea who this may be?

Magolor
Please sakurai.

 

[Malkior7]

The only Nintendo characters I can see having a Guidance like that is Master hand and Crazy Hand but that is impossible as Guidances only happen on Palutena's temple.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

The only Nintendo characters I can see having a Guidance like that is Master hand and Crazy Hand.

has anyone ever actually tried doing the guidance taunt during Master hand/Crazy hand battle?

...The Guidance doesn't work on FD.

 

[Malkior7]

...The Guidance doesn't work on FD.

yeah I know already fixed that the second after I posted

 

[SanicJan]

I've linked up all the evidence together and I'm pretty sure it's a new DLC fighter. It's Dimentio from SPM. This sounds like an odd choice but here's the evidence. Palutena said the Hidden fighter to be very mysterious and very hard to know information. Dimentio was stated like that in one of Tippi's tattles in the place in Chapter 8-3 with all the clones. Not only that but Dimentio lives in his own Dimension called Dimension D just like how Palutena says he exists it another Dimension. COINCEDENCE I THINK NOT!

 

[maxpower1227]

So wait, what happens if you activate PG with a Mii Fighter now? Does it not do anything?

 

[SanicJan]

So wait, what happens if you activate PG with a Mii Fighter now? Does it not do anything?

Same thing happens.

 

[maxpower1227]

Same thing happens.

You mean the audio in the OP is what plays? In that case it's not "hidden" at all. Or do you mean something else?

 

[S_B]

It's either the original intro for the Miis or more likely to be used for future DLC characters.

I say the Miis because they're supposed to be human beings, US, people from "another dimension", that being reality.

However, I think it's more likely that it's just the generic conversation that will happen for future DLC characters, and I say that because it would be a royal PITA to get the VAs back for all of these characters and all of the languages EACH time a new character is added.

So I'm going to go with this being the DLC conversation, nothing more.

You mean the audio in the OP is what plays? In that case it's not "hidden" at all. Or do you mean something else?

There are PGs for the three Mii fighters.

 

[fogbadge]

the bit about "intruder" put me in mind of the intruders in classic mode

 

[Naoshi]

I don't think it's for Mewtwo or anyone.

Mewtwo himself isn't so mysterious anymore and he's already been a fighter in the Smash Bros series. I mean, Palutena and co can identify 51 (or in fact 58 due to Bowser Jr's alts) characters, they can surely identify Mewtwo. Even if they can't figure out who he is, you'd think they would at least describe him in actual detail, don't you think? Like his fighting style or his appearance or something?

It's extremely likely it's for a failsafe because this literally does not feel consistent with any established fighter. If this was for a specific character, it would've been a lot less vague. Mewtwo, Rayman (why Rayman? lol he's not that strange to warrant this dialog), etc etc do not really fit with this.

The only way they would actually have this be actually used is if they aren't able to get ahold of the VAs and just go with this unused clip for DLC fighters, which is probably unlikely.

 

[RespawningJesus]

Missingno confirmed.

 

[Trick or Treat]

If it's for DLC characters, then I don't see how it'd fit with Brawl veterans, if any of them are intended to be DLC. Pit would remember them from Brawl, just like he's referenced SSE in one of them.

 

[S_B]

If it's for DLC characters, then I don't see how it'd fit with Brawl veterans, if any of them are intended to be DLC. Pit would remember them from Brawl, just like he's referenced SSE in one of them.

Then maybe this confirms we're not getting Brawl veterans.

Or maybe they just don't care enough when adding new characters, even if Pit has technically met them.

Or maybe it's just a generic placeholder "just in case".

 

[Trick or Treat]

Then maybe this confirms we're not getting Brawl veterans.

Or maybe they just don't care enough when adding new characters, even if Pit has technically met them.

Or maybe it's just a generic placeholder "just in case".

I know. It doesn't really confirm anything, because they could easily just not care about that minor technicality. As cool as this little feature is, I don't think anyons's opinion of the game would change if they act like Pit doesn't recognize them.

 

[Wanderer from Roseyard]

It's probably the guidance conversation everyone had in development while unique dialogue was still being written and recorded. Or, it's for error handling if someone glitches an otherwise non-playable character into a player slot.

 

[DunnoBro]

Falcomaster3000 confirmed

 

[Khao]

Guys, it's not like Pit even recognizes the Brawl characters who are in the game right now.

Pit: Who's this, Lady Palutena?
Palutena: That's King Dedede.
Pit: So what do I need to know about him?
Palutena: He's a heavyweight and has the ability to fly. And his hammer attack is no joke. But every fighter has a weakness. For example, when King Dedede throws a spiky Gordo, you can hit it right back at him. If you can eliminate him by reflecting the Gordo, that will count as your KO.
Pit: Uh... what's a KO?
Palutena: ...Good luck, Pit.

The only way this unused conversation wouldn't fit for any character is for them to be from Kid Icarus.

 

[S_B]

Guys, it's not like Pit even recognizes the Brawl characters who are in the game right now.



The only way this unused conversation wouldn't fit for any character is for them to be from Kid Icarus.

Ha, good catch!

 

[Rayman!]

Or it was a character planned at one time then got cut. Could be anyone, really. I do like the idea of it being the original Mii before it got turned into Mii Fighter. Mewtwo is reasonably possible, since he had zero Pokedex data in the Anime, which is reflected here on the "Lack of data" thing.

Palutena is talking about the data from Nintendo, like accessing Nintendo to find data records, its probably just for all the DLC characters, if the voice actors don't want to take any more clips, still wouldn't make sense if Lucas got in but Pit doesn't remember him, I would atleast say its a 3rd party character.

 

[Ze Diglett]

You're missing the point. Each character takes a year to create. Nothing you said really matter. You're telling me that only a few months ago they started work on Mewtwo, and in less than a year he's in the game?

Take into consideration that DLC is worked on even during initial development. What, right as soon as MK8 was out, ALL that DLC we got was started in in June and completed just now? Fail logic on you.

Well, yes that's exactly what I'm saying, considering that the word came from Sakurai himself.

http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-talks-duck-hunt-inclusion-in-smash-bros-8-player-smash-originally-planned-for-melee-more/
"Finally, Sakurai briefly touches on plans for the future in Famitsu’s interview as well. “For now, only the distribution of Mewtwo is decided. Other than that is undecided.” Sakurai adds that production of Mewtwo has just started."

I even bolded and underlined the link so you wouldn't miss it this time.
As for the MK8 comparison, these two DLC releases are hardly comparable in terms of scale alone. The recent MK8 DLC Pack included 3 new characters, 8 tracks, (THIS IS KIND OF A BIG DIFFERENCE IF YOU CAN'T TELL) and 6 kart parts, whereas in this case, it's only one character. No matter how you slice it, developing one character isn't going to take nearly as long as developing 3 characters and 8 new levels simply because there's less work to be done.
Going off of the assumption that you're either a troll or incredibly ignorant (and for the sake of avoiding a flame war breaking out), I'm going to refrain from continuing this conversation any further. Good day, sir.

 

[Trick or Treat]

Guys, it's not like Pit even recognizes the Brawl characters who are in the game right now.



The only way this unused conversation wouldn't fit for any character is for them to be from Kid Icarus.

Good catch. He recognized most of the Brawl characters and Palutena referenced SSE, yet he doesn't remember King Dedede.

Pit is the new Ash.

 

[Strofirko]

Its more clear at this point it's this audio is a placeholder for something,I can say it's for DLC characters,but when the player that activates the guidance doesn't acquire/owns the chatacter by any means,the audio will play.

 

[Fathom778]

Duh, It's Triple H!
But no, I say it's early Miis, or
*Drumroll*
TABUU!

...No one?

EDIT: Hold on, does anyone know what would play if you used a Codec on a hack in Brawl?

 

[Zerp]

Probably a placeholder, but Plasm/Water Wraith fits the bill too.
"What is this?!? I can see it with my optical receptors, but my sensors cannot detect it!"

"Could its physical form be anchored in another dimension? ...Attacking it is futile!"
This is what the ship says on it, if anyone was curious. Unlikely, I know, but let me dream.

 

[Vaidya]

Well, yes that's exactly what I'm saying, considering that the word came from Sakurai himself.

I even bolded and underlined the link so you wouldn't miss it this time.
As for the MK8 comparison, these two DLC releases are hardly comparable in terms of scale alone. The recent MK8 DLC Pack included 3 new characters, 8 tracks, (THIS IS KIND OF A BIG DIFFERENCE IF YOU CAN'T TELL) and 6 kart parts, whereas in this case, it's only one character. No matter how you slice it, developing one character isn't going to take nearly as long as developing 3 characters and 8 new levels simply because there's less work to be done.
Going off of the assumption that you're either a troll or incredibly ignorant (and for the good of the thread at large), I'm going to refrain from continuing this conversation any further. Good day, sir.

Except MK characters don't have as much as properties as Smash characters. And considering how much Sakurai puts into each character, you get the freaking point.

Well I guess you admit defeat and are just going to chicken out. Nice talking to you *****.

Why do you still exist?

Because I'm smarter than all of you.

 

[Jaden]

I think it's a placeholder for Mewtwo/other DLC. Wasn't there a bunch of DLC store infrastructure found in the 3DS version? Sakurai might not have any DLC plans outside of Mewtwo, but it certainly looks like the games are at least prepared for it.

 

[aldelaro5]

Straw grasp:

Paper Mario:

SPM jokes references pressing buttons from other dimensions (running 4th wall gag tutorial jokes).

Palutena can't have data because they are written on Paper

ok, I'll stop, but I love to do this sometime

 

[S_B]

It could simply be a placeholder for a new DLC character just in case they cannot reach one or more of the VAs for the PG lines.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Hold on, does anyone know what would play if you used a Codec on a hack in Brawl?

In order to put a hacked character in, you have to replace the file with someone else. It'd likely freeze or play the original character's file. Say you put Waluigi over Wario. It'd play Wario's codec.

Keep in mind this is a theory based upon the knowledge of have of how the game is hacked. Somebody who has tested this is free to answer and prove right or wrong.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Who's that Pokemon?!

 

[Orngeblu]

Maybe it's for Mewtwo/any future DLC character?

Thought the same thing the moment I listened to it.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Who's that Pokemon?!

 

[BlitzMaster2000]

Another dimension = Subspace.

Obvious answer: Tabuu is a DLC character.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

I will go with others and say that it is a place holder in case something goes wrong, but I would not be surprised if it is used for possible future DLC characters.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Maybe it's just an "in case" sort of thing

If something goes wrong and you activate palutena's guidance but it doesn't register properly

 

[SirIanAsh]

Just a placeholder, I guess.