i am ALL for red herring roles. any tool or approach to setups with the intent of punishing town for tryna outguess the mod through role related guesswork i gotta give the :thumbsup:
but for the sake of discussion in a direction we seemingly both agree on (avoiding poe massclaim ****fests) what are these alternative methods to what i described above that mods can utilize?
Wording in role PMs. I change my victory condition wording every few games and I change the "title" of a role all the time so people don't automatically know what it is they're up against, at least not exactly.
You're a vigilante. We know what that means. You're a gunman. What's that? You're an assassin. What's that? You're a machete-wielding lunatic. What's that?
They can all be vigilantes, it is just up to the mod whether or not they want the world to know on flip EXACTLY what they do or not. It also forces claims to be more direct because if you are an assassin and claim vig and a role cop finds you are an assassin, you'll likely be lynched even if the role is the exact same.
It all depends on the setup. Sometimes mass claims are GOOD and should be designed into the game. Other times they're bad and harshly punish one or both alignments. Red herrings and misdirection should only be used when you want to punish an alignment indirectly; indirect punishment isn't always the best, but it's probably the most subtle and least likely to swing victory to one alignment over the other.
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