Gimping snakes recovery?

[CaliburChamp]

I tried everything to gimp snakes recovery, I tried footstool jump while he is using his cypher (up+B), it didnt work, then I tried running into the cypher to knock snake off it, but it also didnt work. I saw a video online where this wolf does it no problem. But I cant get it to work. Help?

 

[Depressed Man]

You have to grab the cypher (and then don't hit him cause it would give him back his cypher recovery).

 

[Sensai]

If you simply grab Snake at all, he's ****ed.

 

[Eddosan]

If you simply grab Snake at all, he's ****ed.

Does it only work with normal grabs, or can special grabs work as well? (Falcon's Up+B for example).

 

[Depressed Man]

Err.. I don't remember (there's conflicting posts about that). I believe it doesn't work though since those attacks actually hit him.


And I believe Snake can still C4 recover (thus giving him back his recovery). But he does take damage from the C4. Though usually that'll propel him above enough to avoid another cypher grab.

Speaking of blowing yourself up, I was playing with my friends a few days ago, I usually chuck grenades on the way back but I accidently threw one up. Then used my Nikita and blew myself onto the stage lol.

 

[abit_rusty]

I tried everything to gimp snakes recovery, I tried footstool jump while he is using his cypher (up+B), it didnt work, then I tried running into the cypher to knock snake off it, but it also didnt work. I saw a video online where this wolf does it no problem. But I cant get it to work. Help?

Hmm..

among your characters:
MK - dair/shuttle loop
Kirby - dair/bair
Lucario - dair
T.Link - dair/fair/bair
Sonic - bair/falling spring/neutral B

I know this because they've all been used against me XD.

edit: Lately I've really started to hate how easily you can get gimped out of cypher by a good player. Grr.

 

[CaliburChamp]

Ohh I see. It can only be done from grabs, or certain moves that abit rusty mentioned. This should help alot, snake seems like a common character I always go up against.

 

[Depressed Man]

Wait, those ones gimp Snake? I've been hit by them while on the cypher and get knocked off but I can usually still recover with the cypher (cousin likes playing Toon Link). Are we using the same definition of gimping Snake's recovery? The one I'm saying is the one where he can't use cypher again (which is done by grabbing his cypher).

 

[NESSBOUNDER]

Wario can also bite the cypher.

 

[apmpnmdslkbk]

The cypher can be destroyed in midair and all of your characters (except for kirby). But if you begin to main mario just cape him and he will have nothing to do but cry as ge falls to his death

 

[UltimaXtreme]

And I believe Snake can still C4 recover (thus giving him back his recovery). But he does take damage from the C4. Though usually that'll propel him above enough to avoid another cypher grab.

Wrong. if he grabs specifically the cypher, you CANNOT recover. There is not enough time to detonate it

 

[abit_rusty]

Wait, those ones gimp Snake? I've been hit by them while on the cypher and get knocked off but I can usually still recover with the cypher (cousin likes playing Toon Link). Are we using the same definition of gimping Snake's recovery? The one I'm saying is the one where he can't use cypher again (which is done by grabbing his cypher).

Hm you're right I shouldn't have used gimp as the term there. Most of those only hit you farther back & up, so you can re-cypher. But you CAN get gimped at very low percents with a spike on your cypher especially if you're coming from below.

 

[Darchon]

The cypher can be destroyed in midair and all of your characters (except for kirby). But if you begin to main mario just cape him and he will have nothing to do but cry as ge falls to his death

Actually, Caping snake will give him another Cypher . Took me a few matches to figure that out.

 

[waks]

Spikes usually eat through his cypher. Only question, is if it kills him =/

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Hmm..

among your characters:
MK - dair/shuttle loop
Kirby - dair/bair
Lucario - dair
T.Link - dair/fair/bair
Sonic - bair/falling spring/neutral B

I know this because they've all been used against me XD.

edit: Lately I've really started to hate how easily you can get gimped out of cypher by a good player. Grr.

You know what's worse? The fact the Yoshi's down air can rack up damage on you on your cypher and there isn't any way to escape once you get hit because the kicks hold Snake into place.