Gigabots Manfia - GAME [JUMB]OVER. Who got the Gigatron?

[ranmaru]

Orbo, why xonar lynch tommorow in ur opinion?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

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Xonar*, Jupiter's Biceps

f---. yes.

 

[Orboknown]

Seeing as JTB has no vote.
And Jupiter is probably game with me.

We need one of Ran/Orbo to vote for Ranmaru. Orbo, will you be online before deadline? If not, throw your vote on Ranmaru now. I'll unvote to prevent quickhammers.

I'll be definitely online wednesday, maybe thursday morning. not at deadline though. still want me to vote?

Orbo, why xonar lynch tommorow in ur opinion?
Because i don't see jupiter or JTB being the planter/indy thing. I know I am town, and you today leaves xonar as abducter if you aren't.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Throw it down.

Unvote

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Alright, I'd like to thank Zonie for pointing out the glaringly ****ing obvious in infinitely nicer terms than GMoneymuscles or I myself would have. I have been literally chewing my knuckles off of my fist with wrath and a desire to respond to that horrible 'case' all night and was only withholding because I didn't want to tip off or influence anyone that hadn't posted their answers yet.

so I guess I'mma wrap up mah hands and get nitty gritty up in here. I wanted to confer with g life, but our options here are limited enough that I think I can speak for these 26'' pythons on my own for a bit. Going to respond to things in no particular order. Bear with me and my muscles, I've been up all night.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Oh man and then ninjas.

At least the muscles will have company.

**** YOU 30 SECOND RULE. God I spend so much time staffing I forget what it's like to be a peasant.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Orboner go ahead and vote if you want to. The muscles will be around to keep nontown things from happening. I don't think they will though. I'm pretty sure I trust Bronar like I trust a sturdy block of cement right now, and I'll go into that (the one nugget of what was almost kindasorta not really but almost a good point in Ran's case) in a sec.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

So first I'll address the obvious, even though it came from a scummy *******.


Muscles and wrong targets

Well by "I'll address", I mean I'll quote Xonar saying would should have been really, really obvious:

His wrong targets mean nothing, by the way. Everything was pointing to the answers he was finding.

Everything about literally everything about Meow's role pointed to stalker. Every thing she said, did. The results varied from enigmas wrapped within puzzles deep fried in a chalupa of riddle ("a robin" = sidekick) to neon ****ing signs ("a card that says Secret Servant on it" = bg. What the ****)

But the most telling of all was that the ONE result that led to her having actually accountability for in-thread actions and influence -- the crumb that outed Gorf as jailer and led to JD pushing his lynch -- didn't even at LEAST fit into the realm of items a thief could actually, y'know, pilfer. It was a ****ing picture. Of a ****ing specific guy, whose profession is jailing people (neon once again), and conveniently enough, this specific character in one of the most well-known films ever made comes with connotations of guilt and evil.

Right. Remind me where town thief fits into that?

I have no desire to defend us for that one. Garth, Town Thief in Gigabots Mafia will, imo, go down as one of the worst, jankiest ****ing PRs in the history of DGames and I'm kind of astonished that Wash would implement such a "how incredibly leading and guiding of a mood am I in" role. Also, thief is the go to for mafia stalker literally 99% of the time.

Detective? Eh. We were still hung up on someone from the oh-so-opportunistic instant explosion of Biceps wagoning on D3 being scum and possibly more than one. It was just such a cherrypicking move by everyone involved. Add that to the bafflingly antitown (yet apparently real, and super obscure... but still antitown) role Detective claimed and the fact that he randomly tried to take control and get an easy target lynched in Biceps and, well, yeah. ***** looked scummy, yo.

So that's about all the accountability I feel like offering. Like Xonar said, the facts led us right where we ended up. Glyph and I were just the ones that put the unfortunately misleading and muddied clues together. Not scummy at all.

So glad JTB is dying, and his blatant attempt to hold out on offering his read on us until he sees what the flow is doing is just the icing on the "only night killer all game" cake. I was tempted to suggest lynching JTB anyway for the free bad guy lynch and also to get his flip on the record to work with. I'm now confident enough to just work on the assumption that he is both a bad guy and mafia. And, yeah, probs the last one too.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Oh right, a point I forgot.

It's good to lynch Orboknown last if he is most likely to be indy. Seeing as he probably has all three scum abducted, lynching him will spell trouble for town. Instant end-game when they are released.

We NEED to lynch the indy last.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

So yeah that oughta put that last ditch attempt to smear mud and FUD all over our slot to bed. Next I just want to add a coupla things to Xonar's very fine debunking of Ran's "case". And yes, I'm going to keep undermining your competence, Ran. That case was awful and loaded up with null tells, and has made you once again very difficult to decipher as far as dumb or scum. Which could have made all the difference here. More on all that in a minute.

In the meantime, HEY XONAR LOOK BOLD TEXT DUTCHIES AND CLOGS AND CHEESE

Now that I have your attention: If JDietz managed to use his laser pointer before he was abducted, doesn't that mean JTB might be able to fire off a kill prior to his abduction as well? Or did I miss a nuance in there somewhere?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

He also won't abduct JTB if he gets lynched blablabla

You catch my drift.

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[#HBC | ZoZo]

**** you ninjaguy.

Now I'll read your post.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

If JDietz managed to use his laser pointer before he was abducted, doesn't that mean JTB might be able to fire off a kill prior to his abduction as well? Or did I miss a nuance in there somewhere?

I guess that is possible. It's possible that JTB is a Mafia Ninja with a tracker around. I got no response of him killing anyone either, but that might just be balance purposes.

Also, don't need to reply to the ****ing case. Just tell me about my big post and we're probably done here.

Where did Orbo go?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Oh.

Wait.

Misread that.

MHMMMMM. Lemme check night actions.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

With Night Actions I mean who was killed/abducted and when.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

I really do need to reply to it. People have been constantly trying to get me and GLife lynched for Days now, and the reason is that we're tolerating all these awful sideliner accusations that keep us just in the reaches of easy mislynch territory. Endgame is time to end that ****. I'll keep it brief, you diced up most of it quite handily.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Yup. Great call.

Looks like we're going to lynch JTB without unplanting.

Vote: JTB

Lynch JTB.
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Left: Ranmaru / Orboknown / Jupiter / Xonar
No Night kill.
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Lynch Ranmaru
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Left: Orboknown / Jupiter / Xonar
No Night kill.
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Lynch Orboknown

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Once again EE has saved the day.

inb4ranfindssomewaytospinthisintoascumread

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

So what about that bromance we were talking about?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

No but really, Jupiter can't be indy nor scum.
The entire town (except Orbo) expressed no intent to lynch me.

scumJTB > Ranmaru > indyOrbo

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

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I also didn't like his 'Oh ran isn't tunneling us today how refreshing'. Like who gives a **** if I don't? Only scum. Especially when he gives crap meta on me. He has only played two games with me. DATS ETT. I think he might have purposely misrepresented me as a player, or just didn't take the time to really understand my play.

Fair point, but you should know that both players in the hydra joke around a lot. I understand where you're coming from with this one, though.

We joke around a lot indeed. However, I can't accept this as a fair point. Ranmaru is completely capable of forging a read on incorrect information, and even when corrected, will clutch it into his heart, forever and ever. And ever and ever. He finds stupid ****ing reasons to continue justifying these reads, and if you call him on them being stupid, that becomes another stupid reason to justify said read.

It's annoying, and it's a horrendous aspect to his play, and just this once I was not seeing that habit. He had actually pulled back from a bad read and let us be. And then he started it all over again.

More importantly, how in the UNHOLY MOTHER OF DOGBALLS would "ONLY SCUM!?!?" care about being TUNNELED FOR NO REASON RELENTLESSLY. THIS CLOSE TO ENDGAME, NO LESS.

WHY WOULD TOWN ACCEPT THIS. WHY WOULD THAT NOT WORRY TOWN, WHEN TUNNELING LOSES GAMES?

****ing dolt. Sorry, but responding to this point released a bit of that wrath I had boiling for like 12 hours.

Also, I didn't like his reaction to my push on him. "Lol ran push so stupid ha" it discredits me and he only does that because he feels my points are weak, so I find that scummy because he would take advantage of that situation and not feel like commenting because I have already been shed in a dark light.

Once again, fair point. Ridiculing is a legitimate form of defense in mafia though. They were probably set on RanScum already and didn't feel like responding. Scummy, true.

The push WAS stupid. Look at all of Xonar's concise, utterly decimating rebuttals to Ranmaru's "case". Add in my own above, which is to a point that should never have been made in any ****ing mafia game, against ANYONE, EVER.

Yes, we were settling into RanScum a bit, but more importantly we STILL weren't sure because he seriously does stupid **** like this all the time. It's why he was at the exact bottom of the cellar wrt suspicion for the meeting of the D3 Opportunists' Club. We were frustrated with his **** and we had too many bad guys to deal with as it was. Everything about this was annoying and frustrating as ****.

And that case never did, and still does not, and never will have deserved a response. You did it because it was necessary, and hopefully this post will sweep the last of that bull **** away, because I am seriously not going to tolerate any more of it.

We just plain don't think much of Ran as a player and the case was horrendous, and because there were bigger issues to resolve, we decided not to indulge one of his tunnel frenzies and distract from what was important. End. Of.

The fact that Ran tries to repaint this as the classic "scum backhands a player because he has no answers to the case and stoops to ad hominem" scenario is literally laughable. If I can quote damn near every sentence in a case and respond with "not scummy. Null tell for literally anyone in any situation", it doesn't deserve my ****ing time. And yet here we are.

 

[Orboknown]

Where did Orbo go?

to class. I was only on break
Vote:JTB

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

L-1 on JTB

 

[Orboknown]

No but really, Jupiter can't be indy nor scum.
The entire town (except Orbo) expressed no intent to lynch me.

scumJTB > Ranmaru > indyOrbo

the lynch on you was only if ran proved to not be abductor. you're the only other person I could see being the abductor in that scenario

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

And lastly, Xonar stuff.

Xonar was a null slot for way, way, way, way, way too long. We let him take the lead for the very simple reason of "why in the **** not". Nothing had panned out thus far, and he was a dangerous question mark. If he wants to come in out of nowhere and start trying to do things (the most reliable kind of information), hell if I'm gonna stop him. Him coming in and taking initiative was infinitely more useful for reading him than some stilted pressure on inactivity's basis alone.

As he played for longer and longer stretches, Xonar kept pushing logic we could agree with. Slowly, we became okay with releasing our hold on the reigns a bit, because we liked Xonar's logic, disliked the attacks we were seeing on him (and those that were making them), and perhaps most importantly, our combined scumhunting efforts (although, we felt, logical) weren't getting us where we need. Which is, dead bad guys.

So some guy comes in and starts pushing in directions that line up with your head and providing a new perspective, well, ****. Smells like town spirit. And then to top it all off he reads us with a clear head and understands nuance in mafia rather than cherrypicking nulltells and unfortunate circumstances in some grimy mudslinging campaign.

all the bromance, no apologies

 

[ranmaru]

Biceps. I'm not tunneling you. I have not tunneled, because I have expressed opinions on more than just you. Earlier in the game you were kinda under the radar for me, and I didn't think nothing of you but after seeing three town flips every DAY at lynch time, it made me re-evaluate my reads.

I am trying my hardest to voice who I feel might be scum. Like, I don't want to let scum get their way. It's hard for me to scumhunt in such a confusing game with all these confusing roles. D: <

Sure you may not look at me as a player but you AS A PLAYER should at least try to look from my perspective, because you aren't.

Don't expect me to sit there and just take everything in. I have a voice and a vote. I will use both.

Am I able to read you? No, I don't think so. But I'm still trying.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I think the day is done.

 

[ranmaru]

Makes sense. I originally didn't like the way he came in, but as things started rolling I liked what he was giving.

I'll vote JTB in my next post.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'm not letting you guys get into this 1 v 1.

That call by Jupiter alone is enough to basically have him unlynchable for the rest of the game. If by some ****ing miracle I die, people will say
"hey man, look at Xonar's 2628"
and they will read this, and remember that Jupiter is not anti-town under any circumstance.

The entire town lines up right now. There's not a lot left to do.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Ran don't vote I want this hammer. I want it so bad oh my god

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

"hey man, look at Xonar's 2628"

 

[ranmaru]

I'm laughing really hard now.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

you guys are the worst I should be turning in my lab report right now not still at home fartin' around on the interweb

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'm going to report on Ranmaru tonight. He is the one next up for lynch sooo it's best to get a report on him.

Jupiter don't care what you do. Draw me some anime.

Jupiter, you have permission to hammer.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Alright, do we need to work anything out anything else, or can I just kick JTB's *** back into the gigatron from whence it came.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Just this once, I will draw you some anime. It will be manly, inexplicably.

Hold on, gonna make this hammer something special

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

i drew this myself, it's in my reaction folder

 

[ranmaru]

I wish I could draw. Wanna see my drawings? : 3

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

If you have anything with as much swag as mine, sure.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Sux 2 b u EE, Glyph is hero

vote: JTB