Garde's Link Guide

[Garde]

Okay, now you're speaking some sense. I will definitely agree it's hard to use offensively. I've only used it a few times offensively and had it work. Defensive WDing with Link and using it for mind games are good though. SH -> WD can be pretty good, it gets about double the distance in the same amount of time (though you STILL can't do **** during the WD )... Plus, you can SH away from an enemy, then WD into them with a neutral-A (Link's safest move to use when WDing in, since it's the fastest and can interrupt a ****load of attacks).

 

[SS4Ricky]

Page 2 huh? And 400 posts! This is the longest a character topic has survived!


3 gold stars for garde.

Anyways, i think we should talk about some new stuff...like hookshot cancelling. I wanted to make a new topic out of this, but i decided to keep it to the fellow link players.:D

It might already be known, but all of Samus's crazy grapple tricks can be done with Link. You'll die if you decide to grapple cancel and attack, so why use it? No lag.

If you don't sweet spot the edge with Link, you'll grab the edge, then do a very slow, and very open to attack jump in which you can't attack or defend yourself. This is where you usually get spiked, reflected, or luckily get back on the level. Now if you grapple cancel, it'll put you in an automatic spin, allowing you to up+B immediately. Think about it, getting knocked off the level, using your hookshot to return, then immediately go into a tumble after you grapple to up+B.

Granted it's not as useful as Samus's, seeing as she can propel herself upwards, but it's still fun to use. Plus, it's

1. Pretty tough to do
2. Really cool when it's pulled off
3. Could save your life

Just when you thought Link couldn't get any better.

I expect alot of discussion from this one, do you guys see this as useful?

 

[gtb (Genosync)]

Originally posted by SS4Ricky
Page 2 huh? And 400 posts! This is the longest a character topic has survived!


3 gold stars for garde.

No, he deserves five trillion stars for this FAQ. This was the first, and best source of Melee information I've been referred to..... ever. I've looked over Section V for the last six months. Garde, you know how many times I've said thank you, but I'll say it another time. This guide to Link made me a much better player, and some of your insight and referrals to other sources have made my Sheik godly.

I appreciate it much.

 

[heavenly_link]

I am a link fanatic, My most used move is up+B on the ground, I even use it as a spike. I think one of links best short combos is to grab, throw down, and up+B, certain Ko if opponent has 100%+ damage and doesn't tech out of the throw right away.

 

[Kubuu]

And when I think about it, all I can say is

 

[CaliburChamp]

Yeah the hookshot cancel is a must for any Link player, well a competitive one anyways. I find it especially useful against Falco, you could prevent Link from gettin spiked once hookshot canceled, and Falco has a hard time getting out of Link's Aerial Up+B. It definitely has its usefulnesses.

 

[Eramor]

hookshot grapple cancelling?

I'm probably not the only person who's never heard of this, or doesn't know this name for it, so could you give us a description of the move you're talking about? Like, how to do it, what it does, and why you should do it instead of say...using the hookshot on a lower point. I'd love to hear more about this because

"
1. Pretty tough to do
2. Really cool when it's pulled off
3. Could save your life

"

Is the kind of move I live for.

 

[X Japan]

its been a while.i think this thread needs a bump.

 

[Moose Of Woe]

Link=god.

Nice guide, quite accurate.

 

[X Japan]

short for words i see. anyway right now i'm trying to take a brake from using Link since i don't like using for fun nowadays. since everyone who wants to fight me only wants me to use Link on them. no one seem not want to have fun nowadays.everyone wants to train all the time.nothing seem fun nowadays. d@mn

 

[CaliburChamp]

Does anyone here use Link's back kicks much? I think they are great! :D

 

[Hmoob Koob]

I don't use Link's back kicks too much, but I short hop like 95% of time, if not almost indefinetly, I don't know, I'd rather short hop the whole stage than run it..dunno what, because, for me, it seems like I can do more while short hopping than running, for if I throw my boomerang while running I'll completely stop, while short hop to boom, I'm still kinda mobile, plus pulling out the bombs while short hopping isn't as lagging.

Man, I really have to get a video of me playing Link onto the computer...hey, do you guys do that. I've recorded myself playing, the thing is now, how do I transfer my video's into my computer, or lab top, since I'm using my lab top more now a days? Without having to use a digital video camera...as I don't have one.

 

[CORY]

you need a video capture card of some sort. dunno how expensive they are and what good ones would be, though...

 

[Eramor]

link's double back kick

I use this move all the time. Its got better range, speed, and damage than the Hylian Kick (neutral A). Plus, it can be linked to combos rather easily. In fact, you can use what my friend and I call the "Jigglypuff Tactic" to force opponents farther away from the edge. When your opponent is near or off of the edge of the stage, jump backwards and double kick, secondary jump to double kick, then get back on with up B. Works nicely on characters with poor recovery, like Falco.

 

[The GERM]

poop

hey mother mothers. Havent' posted in a while, been keeping busy...... I was just wondering, a lot of people on this thread use Link and Link alone, what do you do when you have to go up against a Shiek player in a tounament who knows how to chain grab? I don't mean to sound like a sellout or nothing, but I usually ditch Link and go with Marth or Falco, but I don't if I know he can't chain grab or doesn't do it well. A Shiek who can't chain grab is like a blind....uhhh.. duck........and Link is like...the duck hunter.....or something.... but instead of having that plastic orange gun, he has like, an orange bomb and Hylian army fatigues.........so with that said, please people, play with other characters other than Link also, it'll help you get better with Link, figure out strats to use against those characters, and help you win tourney matches against those pesky shieks, ****it.......

 

[JesustheDarkLord]

Against a Sheik who is great at chain-grabbing, I usually switch to my Doc or Puff. Against a Sheik who isn't quite as skilled, but still chaing grabs, I have had some luck pressure dropping a sex kick once I hit about 30%, knocking her back long enough to give me room.

 

[CaliburChamp]

Links back kicks are great against Sheik, to land combos on her. And also when I face a Sheik, I dash dance and dodge dance every so often for those Mind Game tricks. And now since I solved the Marth, Fox and Falco problem I used to have, now its time for me to concentrate more on Sheik. Sheik's my secondary, so I know alot about her strats!

 

[Hmoob Koob]

Look, sorry if I get alittle off topic, but I know that you've people have seen the new MBR tier list, and have you guys seen where Link was placed? I mean, I'm still having trouble taking this in...can anyone enlighten me on this, again, I just want to know if anyone of you believe where Link is placed..?

I thought and strongly believed he was High Tier..but Upper...wow...

 

[Eramor]

the MBR lists

Frankly, I think the whole 'tier' idea is bull****. however, I think the idea is that Link being on a lower tier doesn't mean hes a worse character, it means he takes more skill to use effectively.

 

[Eramor]

my bad

I hadn't seen the new tier list when I made that last post, so please disreguard it. I thought Link was still on the mid tier, like he used to be. The tiers are very fickle. Don't place any faith in them

 

[Garde]

I don't know much that's been going on lately on the SWF, including that new Tier List, but wasn't it posted on April Fool's Day?

Anyways, the reason I'm posting here is because I'm saying my goodbyes. I'm leaving SWF and I'm going to stop playing SSBM. Sure, I'll still play every once in a while, but there are many things that have higher priority in my life than SSBM, and I need to take care of those responsibilities first (something I haven't been doing). It's been great talking to you all, thanks for reading my guide and sharing all the Link info you guys have accumulated.

Just to make things extremely clear, there will not ever be an update to this guide written by me, even though I had been planning on remaking my guide a while ago. I might show up to TG^ this summer, although nothing is definite and I can promise nothing, I would like to make it to TG^, just because it'll be the last one, and Japanese players are supposedly coming.

Well, if you ever want to talk to me about something (even the old days when I used to smash), just hit me up on AIM or something, ok?

 

[SabreAnt]

Thank you for the guide and sharing your skill. I have effectively tripled my capacity to fight with Link and I owe much of it to you. Thanks again. I even use Link as a main character now. I have a sneaking suspicion you'll never be able to totally quit playing Smash however. It'll call your name in your sleep. You know it will! :D

 

[CaliburChamp]

The new tiers are whack, and I dont go by them. And I believe they are still revising that tier list. Dont put much faith in it.

 

[The GERM]

goodbye Garde

Thanx for everything Garde, It was nice meeting you at the OC. We never did get that ditto match though, hopefully you'll come to TG6 so we can. Your guide's awesome, if it wasn't, there wouldn't be 28 pages on it....anyway, I'll still hit you up on AIM every now and then, and remember, Link still loves you.............

 

[Ace(Fox)]

I don't know if you have this in you guide or not, it was to long for me to read. But my freind likes to mess around by playing as Link, it's not his normal guy. All he does is though the boomerang and dodge. Then through bombs. He build up your damage then just hits you with a strong smash attack. I HATE this with a passion because I can't seem to close in on him.

 

[Eramor]

I think I have the solution to your projectile-***** problem.
Ready? Here it is - just stand there. If your friend uses nothing but projectiles, don't bother going after him. Arrows and bombs are easily dodged, and the boomerang can be stopped with no damage by simply hitting it with your sword: just tap A. Link may have some very nice projectiles, but anyone who bases their game entirely on using projectiles is in for quite the beating as soon as they play with any reasonably skilled player. Your friend will soon become bored and either stop blaspheming by sucking with Link or actually learn to play with him

 

[Eramor]

Mario strats

Lately, I've been having some trouble fighting against mario. Its probably because I rarely play a good mario player, but I still want to learn to fight the plumbing *******. Whenever I play mario, all of my moves seem to get turned around by the cape, all my projectiles are turned against me, and I eventually end up getting hit with his smash A, which is WAY too powerful for such a quick character. How can I improve my Link game against the one in the red hat ?

 

[Hmoob Koob]

Hmm..it's kinda hard for me to describe how I beat the Mario players I've confronted. I can give you acouple tips, if they are far away, and try to shoot fireballs at you, just whack at them with your sword, and they'll disappear, also, Link's standing neutral A acts as a barrier, meaning it'll stop pratically all of Mario's attacks, since your range is farther. His slide can't work, because if it hits the sword, either they get hit, or Link and Mario just deflect oneanother.

Also, say if you swipe, and they cape you, you can either roll away, or turn back around with your forward tilt attack, this'll catch them off guard. Usually when I do this standing still neutral A swipes, I'll see that Mario will try to roll behind me but during this time, if you can pick it up, just SpinAttack. I rarely throw my projectiles at Mario because he capes, so I'll usually just turtle and have him come to me, allowing me the advantage.

My tatic for defeating Mario is using Link's range, beware however, Mario's forward Smash has surprisingly far range. The plumber will have more of a problem going against Link than Link going against him. Don't worry, try my tatic, hopefully it'll help, remember, turtle, but know when to get away.

Basically I just play marathon match with Mario.

 

[CaliburChamp]

Well when he shoots fireballs, use your neutral A to out prioritize them. And use Link's Downsmash just in case he gets close. As for an edge-guarding Mario, learn how to hookshot-cancel, or throw your boomerang at Mario while he is waiting at the edge for you so he wont Cape you and you will be able to Up+B while he gets distracted by Links Boomerang. But it sure is hard comboing him with your hookshot.

 

[Eramor]

Thanks for the sex kick tip, I'll be sure to use that and the turtle tactic as well. This will be a change for me, as I play a somewhat aggressive Link whenever I can.

I do use the boomerang thing to hit edgeguarders, but it doesn't seem to distract mario long enough, he'll just cape the 'rang and then cape my spin attack.

Also, what is the hookshot cancel? I've heard of this before, and asked about it, but no one responded before, so I'm still in the dark. Also, if Mario capes your spin attack, can you even do it?

 

[SS4Ricky]

Anyways, the reason I'm posting here is because I'm saying my goodbyes. I'm leaving SWF and I'm going to stop playing SSBM. Sure, I'll still play every once in a while, but there are many things that have higher priority in my life than SSBM, and I need to take care of those responsibilities first (something I haven't been doing). It's been great talking to you all, thanks for reading my guide and sharing all the Link info you guys have accumulated.

"He'll be back" :D

You can't quit smash. Lots of people tried, DA said they would after GO, but look at 'em now, excited for the philly tourney. But i think you're pretty serious about this, so all i gotta say is get your life in check, then smash it up before TG6. I may be able to go and it'd be great to play you. Either way, it's been fun sharing link strats, we'll keep the topic alive while you're out.

 

[X Japan]

well i already talked my peace with him so no point in saying something here(i know he'll be back. bast@rd).anyway most of us we'll miss Garde and his Link lookalike way(if u ever meet him face to face u know what i'm talking about).he did a lot for us.he brung anyone and everyone who use or wanted to use the blonde bomber.i know he did it with me after i played him. he told me about the topic and after 4 days our bout i check the topic it out and saw it had a lot of **** and now here i am today.so here we are ppl .here today to say later to our young friend for now.

 

[Mike G]

Originally posted by SS4Ricky

You can't quit smash. Lots of people tried, DA said they would after GO, but look at 'em now, excited for the philly tourney.

heh heh heh, I like how you said that:D


but yeah, Garde will be back....see ya at tg5.

 

[JesustheDarkLord]

Situation:
Dreamland 64
Me: Link
Tim: Fox

Twice in the match, I grabbed him and downthrew, and it "spiked" him. I know that Fox's and Falco's dthrow can act that way, but I was unaware that Link's ever did. Both times, I was standing roughly 1.5 bodywidths away from the edge and facing the center of the stage, and grabbed Fox from in front of me.

Tim says he wasn't DIing at all. Can someone else verify this for me?

 

[Eramor]

Does anyone know how to choose which way to recover once you're hanging on the edge? That is, can you choose which wake-up attack you use, and whether to do it immediately or have a delay?

 

[The GERM]

edge recoveries

you'll do a quick attack from the edge if you're under 100% damage, and a slow one if your over 100% damage. This also implies to using the roll recover with L or R from the edge, or just pressing up on the edge.

On a side note, I was just curious, does anyone play red or blue Link? Everyone I've seen, uses black, white, or green. I personally use black, it really brings out his eyes, and makes him look thinner...............................

 

[JesustheDarkLord]

One of my roommates plays blue, and another plays red. I use white, since I am the win.

 

[Kubuu]

I use black, cause number one, I'm black :D and two, the white parts of his outfit are a dirtier white, which makes him look mad rugged, shows all the wear and tear from many a battle

 

[Eramor]

I use the dark blue link when I'm not too lazy to change the color. I think it looks really sleek on Final Destination.

 

[X Japan]

Originally posted by Eramor
Does anyone know how to choose which way to recover once you're hanging on the edge? That is, can you choose which wake-up attack you use, and whether to do it immediately or have a delay?

its up to u to use the best COA. how bout that.


use either black or white, but mainly black.