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Fox's Aerials Auto-cancel from the ledge.

PhoenixToaster

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Just want you guys to know that every one of fox's aerials can auto cancel from the ledge. Could this possibly lead into a shield break? Auto-canceled down air into firefox?
 

ZeroJanitor

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It does break shields but I'm not sure whether or not it's escapable between the aerial and the up b.
 

luke_atyeo

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From my very short and basic and by no means conclusive testing, if you firefox on someones shield, the final hit of the firefox is needed to break it, but you can roll or spotdodge between the 2nd last hit and the last hit.
Adding a dair into the mix might damage a shield enough that you dont need the final hit of firefox, but seems to me this wouldn't be guaranteed but rather a little trick to catch someone off guard once or twice.
 

Bloodcross

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i love dair from the ledge. if you hit them you can extend your followups like ****ing crazy

if i see them shielding i tend to avoid dair, but if i do dair them shielding i might wanna just roll away to get back on stage. but i suppose dair to upb could be funny.
 

Top Boss

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I use AC up air from the ledge whenever my opponent does something silly on the ledge(whiffed down smash for example). Its verrrrrrry good
 

iwumboyouwumbo

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Just want you guys to know that every one of fox's aerials can auto cancel from the ledge. Could this possibly lead into a shield break? Auto-canceled down air into firefox?
What's the timing for this? I can't seem to get it right with any of them.
 

luke_atyeo

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What's the timing for this? I can't seem to get it right with any of them.
Are you trying to ledge jump as in drop off the ledge (with back or down) and double jump aerial, or are you trying to ledge jump as in pressing up/jump from the ledge to do the actual ledge jump option?
 

iwumboyouwumbo

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Are you trying to ledge jump as in drop off the ledge (with back or down) and double jump aerial, or are you trying to ledge jump as in pressing up/jump from the ledge to do the actual ledge jump option?
The former. I have been practicing and I can get it occasionally now.
 

JosePollo

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His aerials will auto-cancel as long as you don't fast-fall them. Make sure you don't fast-fall them, although if you catch someone with dair at kill percent fast-falling isn't a bad idea since it will hit the landing hitbox to set up for an up smash.
 
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