Flavorless Mafia: Game Over. Who won?

[rid****ulous]

Vote: Nabe

This is not negotiable. Nabe dies today.

 

[Dabuz]

Vote: Nabe

Agreed.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

What if he's town?

 

[rid****ulous]

What if he's town?

Then he should feel terrible about how he's played this game. I'm sure as hell not gonna leave that slot alive in lylo.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

That's not a sufficient answer to me. What are we going to do if he fleips town?

 

[rid****ulous]

Then dabuz goes next, he's really all that'd be left. If the game isn't over after that, then we prolly lose this game unless we get lucky, cuz everyone else is pretty squeaky clean, as far as I can see.

You could take like, a 3rd look at fromarsh's or Kary's interactions with J if you want to. I've looked at everyone pretty closely and if Nabe or dabuz aren't the last remaining scum, then whoever is left did a really good job of faking their back and forth with J the first 2 days.

 

[rid****ulous]

ya know what, I'm gonna go back and look at gorf v ryu again

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gorf is clear - Ryu was town and read him as scum.

 

[rid****ulous]

That don't mean **** and you know it.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Sure

 

[rid****ulous]

Fromar-talk to me about the lynch lineup. More specifically if not nabe than who with a splash of why

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Vote: Nabe

This is not negotiable. Nabe dies today.

No.

Vote: Nabe

Agreed.

No.

Does the whole jake vs J thing just slip everyone's mind? If ANYBODY feels that lynching Nabe is the right idea they'll have to elaborate on what makes J and Garg his partner, cuz quite frankly to me it seems impossible.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I think dabuz might have gotten too much credit for what he did yesterDay tbh.

 

[rid****ulous]

Nabe has no presence whatsoever. You'd have to point out the jake/J disconnect beyond Js buddying early on.

@Gheb-im inclined to listen.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

There's not much to say. What dabuz did yesterDay was essentially digging out connections to support the commonly agreed idea that Fanny needed to die. It was considered a very pro-town move and dabuz was let off the hook for it at the expense of Fanny ... that looks like a mistake in retrospect, especially with Fanny's flip in mind. What has dabuz actually done other than adding fuel to the fire?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Nabe has no presence whatsoever. You'd have to point out the jake/J disconnect beyond Js buddying early on.

@Gheb-im inclined to listen.

No no. You're going to have to be the one that convinces, it's your claim that Nabe deserves to die toDay remember?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh also how about dat fromar only half being on the Garg wagon and not doing anything aside from be the first two Days ago to state the obvious about J dying? Oh and also he's still alive yah yah.

And then there's dabunz.

 

[rid****ulous]

No no. You're going to have to be the one that convinces, it's your claim that Nabe deserves to die toDay remember?

Wrong head dur da dur.
It's pretty damn simple that nabe has done nothing of protown value. Jake was straight null to me. By this point in the game Nabe is too much of a question mark/ not pro town effort to allow to love simply due to the fact that we are nearing endgame scenarios. Thats not counting his qh yesterday once his name started getting tossed around(iirc that was going on when qh hammered)

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

You don't lynch somebody for being anti town. Anti town =/= scummy. I feel like in my head there's enough to save nabe toDay over an actually scummy slot, but I'm not ready to commit yet. Don't be so eager, you did well getting Garg but this game isn't won by being antsy.

 

[rid****ulous]

Conviction=/=overeager but I'll wait for what you have to say

 

[frozenmarsh751]

vote dabdab

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

the scum agenda

step 1: save the scumteam from falling down around me with intelligent seemingly pro-town play
step 2: make a well-timed thoughtful push and subsequent hammer on a popular scumspect to solidify my already beastly town cred

i'm 0 for 2 so far so i had better ramp it up for plan c

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Nabe you are still a fucking joke.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Loving JS at the moment. This post in particular has me beaming with a great big smile:

You, new person, we are now friends. Oh my god, this post is just wonderful. I agree with pretty much every word and could not have said it better myself. It's incredibly logical and screams of town intent, for me, about why his vote is on Honk and it truly makes sense. Honk's play (for me) was better in the beginning and I recaall one post in particular I liked because I found them to be correct in what they were saying. This is where I disagree slightly with Gheb where he gives the definite "Not a single post has rubbed me the right way" because I feel that's not fair to them because I can see the possibility of Honk just flailing as per usual (a.k.a. Soup). However, their petty argument with Gheb just really left a bad taste in my mouth because as Garg/JS said, it was completely unneeded and he could have used the time to post actual things *even if on his phone because he had enough time to make those jabs at Gheb*. Overall, Honk is someone I am okay with being pressured for now because Soup is very easy to read once he hits a certain pressure point.

@jakestan : I would like to ask where you are from, like site/whatever. You seem to have quite a bit of mafia experience based off your posts and I'd like some background to get a little hint to who you are as a player. Normally don't ask for these sorts of things, but based on you being 100% new to DGames mafia, I'd feel more info is better than less regarding an enigma.

You are very weird this game. By weird, I mean you are not the Kary I remember from the past. Usually you have a method to your posts and a reason to why you are doing such things, but the whole debacle with "Giving certain players a free pass" is kind of...odd. I am still going back and forth between whether it is scummy or just bad town play. You are hiding your intent though, that's what I don't like if I had to put it into more detailed words.

Regarding your question, no I'm not. But why do you go straight to assuming I am not reading the thread? Going straight to the negative puts me at a pause for concern.

I found this string of posts interesting in a telling way.







@Kary : Why did you FoS Gorf instead of vote him? It makes no sense to considering your vote is RVS (if I recall) and Gorf is nowhere near a lynch. So can you enlighten me as to why you did this?

I like Ruy. I like Gheb more than I like sjoupey. I think I like Jake, #126 such swag.



How am I hiding my intent? I'm tired of the same **** that happens every single game we play. Now maybe I don't have the best way of trying to counteract that, but I don't really see why this is any worse than me picking people at random to give them grief.



I am asking whether you're reading the thread because I need to know. If you just didn't see my question, that's fine!

If I ask you whether you're scum and you decide to just ignore it... well that doesn't fill me with confidence. I know you're terrible at lying about your alignment, so you just not answering isn't much better.

Kary=/=J, Nabe=/=J. It just... doesn't sit right, saying that these scenarios could have happened with either of these two on J's scum team.

I am seeing the subtext in what JS is saying. Basically, I look deeper into people's posts than I let on and I saw a gem of what he was truly meaning to say without saying it. He says that you are good for pressure and good for reads because he is correct. As I stated to Nich, I am doing something incredibly similar when talking about your wagon. You are a confusing player for me. I truly have to say I do not ever have a concrete thought on you until I see you near the noose. So to put it bluntly, I am liking JS for doing what I am doing because from my PoV it's coming from a town's mindset.

Like what does J benefit from taking this stance on his partner? If Jake dies first, J is the guy that hardcore buddies the dude who flipped scum. If J dies first, he goes down as the guy who made this crazy interaction with Jake. Plus, this is a stance that is BOUND to be exploited by the rest of town, and if they're partners, that leaves room for both of them to expose themselves. On the other hand, strictly thinking about this before J took the stance against what we're assuming is a townJake in this hypothetical scenario, if J dies first, that is a scummy making a bold, rather unjustified stance on Jake, and Jake becomes condemned. If townJake dies first (which is what I'm SURE J was looking for in this case), that means J goes down as the guy who had a strong town read on the guy that the majority of the playerlist misread.

These. Guys. Aren't. Aligned. No way.

Can you go into what you like about Ruy/Gheb/Honk/Jake?

Hiding intent, you are putting up a mask. You usually do this and it aggravates me because I cannot read someone who is deliberately hiding what they truly mean to say so adamantly. But yes, I didn't see your question because my username is hard to tag. I may just change it so I can be tagged easier. So what did you get based off my answer then?

Conversely, look at how J treats Kary. This is the pick-a-target-exploit-the-target method of fake scumhunting TO THE MAX. Just choose the player who you can make an easy stance on, and SIT ON IT. Oh and you know what helps? People expressing disinterest in the slot already, that way you know you're not pulling that many hairs early on.

Ok, time to dive right into this.

Let's play a game. It's called "Whose the better killer?"

Right now I'm on the side of things where I think J's hardcore Jakestown read is off. As has been mentioned by several other people, I read that and thought "Ok so he's writing a book on 'How to be a good townie', why is J so impressed by this?" Feels like J is buddying up to a new town player. Don't like it.

Vote: J

HEY. HEY RIDDICK. REMEMBER THIS STANCE? ****IN KEEP IT PLEASE.

july and pb+j have asserted that js ****ty townread of jake is off. i commend them on reaching this conclusion. however why are you guys scumreading j for this and ignoring jake? pb+j even just said that its off then votes j for...buddying a new town player? dafuq didnt you just say that townreading jake is wrong? and part of julys reason is cuz js buddying. this implies a belief of jake being innocent without being explicitly stated. what do you guys think of jake? PLEASE dont tell me yall are joining the townread people for no reason club

im tryna wrap my head around js treatment of jakestan due to that being a large contributor behind the recent hate of the slot and am personally unable to get much out of it. j has a habit of townreading people for absolutely no reason regardless of alignment so im left underwhelmed by this new direction and confused as to why is jakestan is bein ignored in all of this

jakestan goes in circles with post 43. karebear asserts that youre (generally speaking) likelier to mislynch someone you havent played with before than one you have. jake then says not really and...says the exact same thing and proceeds to **** on karebear?

there is dissonance in the above observations that should be addressed

?

Let the record show that scumreading J wasn't popular at this point in time.

Listen to marshy, he understands that I do find my reads in, albeit, unique ways, but they have a point to them and they also have a point to what I am specifically doing. Because of my post I know am able to generate discussion and connections based on people's reads of JS and by the way people are choosing to look at how I am buddying people.

Also this is the first time J acknowledges fromar's existence. And he's saying jack **** about em.

honks scumread of ruy is UNBELIEVABLY ****ty

i dont find julys or rid****s pushing of j scummy in and of itself

might just say **** it and hop the wagon. im not at the moment for the sake of bein in sync with frozen

They're just saying jack **** about each other.

Alright, I reread Honk, and for the past couple pages, I noticed that pretty much all of Honk's content is an attempt to get JS and Gheb off his back. He's only focusing on directing his content to people who don't like him in attempt to make himself look better or either turn it around on them, specifically with JS, who in my opinion is not scummy.

and overall notable reads at this moment are:
I think both July and Gheb are towny
I don't like frozenmarsh's play, it's not only aggressive, but sidelining
Butt Wolf or whatever and Ryu are absent and therefore null
Kary's weird but null, I don't know how to read his ****
JS is null-town
Gorf is null to me too
and J has gotten a lot of negative attention because of the buddying up of JS, which I agree is odd, but a lot of people claim that to be a way he plays, so I'm gonna wait to formulate more on him.

Vote: Honk
I'm sorry, Honk. At first I gave you the benefit of the doubt because of soup's meta, but your play has become OMGUS and self-preservative and I don't like your slot for that.

I think Honk's a good lynch for D1

I don't think it's a coincidence that Garg decided that these three slots were the slots he'd say not-so-positive things about. This isn't a point of contingency, but I wanna see how his future communication with both J and fromar pan out.

Also, and this may be a bit of a long ****, but I don't think scumGarg would flub his partner's (BWolf's) name like that. BWolf had like, what, two posts in the game or something as of this point, certainly far from a presence. However, there's no way that these scum partners wouldn't have enough interaction outside of thread to at least be able to identify each other's names (and **** all of you who think it's possible for BWolf OR J to have not acknowledged his existence at this point). The only option that this leaves these guys as scummates is that Garg intentionally flubbed his name for the sole purpose of flubbing it, which, while possible, is doubtful.

My dislike of frozenmarsh isn't vague either. He would just jump in and confidently say "We need to lynch so and so." or "this person is definitely scum" and then ran back to nothingness, and I don't like that. It's anxious finger-pointing to me, until he comes around with more to say about it.

In Tranquility, I asked Garg to hydra with me specifically because of the fact that I rolled innocent townie. Garg scumread yolo for this exact same reason, and after enough explaining as to why this in particular isn't scummy, he conceded and continued on in try'na find scum. This is also evidenced in F&L2. Marshy was being marshy, and rather than scum read em, Garg... well... didn't. Does this solidify anything aside the fact that Garg just made a stance somewhere for the sake of having a stance? No not really, until you take a second look at his readslist and see the ridiculous amount of nulls. Those are clearly just stances for the sake of stances. This isn't. Oh and also let's see how far he decides to take this disliking of fromar even though we all know that, for as long as Garg has been alive, fromar is mostly static in his behavior.

Also, where's the motivation to push em? He's just lettin that stance chill there all throughout, with this being literally the only backing for the disliking of his slot, whereas he has plenty (in comparison) for honk.

Heyo Soup, how's it hanging?



To be fair to him, I have had a constant streak of games in which I gather too much attention and inevitably get lynched because of it. Whether it my fault or peoples' own thoughts of me depends on the game. Take for instance, Simpson's. Granted I don't think we should give people a pass on D1, even if it does include myself. I don't think it's scummy as much as anti-town.

Ryu is jumpy.... He must be on some kinda meds or something.

Gorf's town.



Ryu's questions were aggressively stupid. I can understand why Gorf would shut them down.



This was kinda out of the blue. I thought you were cool with them. What changed?

I don't like Garg, but I also don't like Joey/Soup.



I'm liking J so far.

Page 7

This post leaves me confused. I want to jump up and say "THIS POST SUCKS" cuz, well, it does. But there's a striking difference between this post just plain sucking and it being scummy: he seems to have a sense of empathy that just didn't exist in Canadafia, and he's exploring multiple avenues in order to give himself the best option while weeding out the bad ones. He doesn't feel fixated. I'm not gonna write em off just yet cuz **** dabunz but I don't feel like we should just jump at em.

So, I am back and fired up to kick some *** and nail some scum. Mainly gonna just kick people's ***** that are on my wagon because my wagon is 100% unjustified. Mainly because it is built upon faulty logic and marshy/July misinterpreting what I am doing. Marshy is mainly pushing me to get me to actually play and to back down from my JakeStan read. I know this for a fact due to the way he is pushing me and jabbing at me. To start out this post I am going to skip around from reads and posts that have caught my interest. Since I am already talking about Marshy, let's get started with this slot.

I'm going to call you out here and now, Marshy. Your push is utter bull and you and I both know this fact. I have told you countless times and countless times that my D1 play is absolute garbage. This is fact. This game I made the mistake of getting involved early on in conversations so it's just a reminder to me to not play this phase. However, I am going to indulge you in the fact of your scum-read on me which is entirely co-dependent on JakeStan. Yes, I did like his first post. You say that I am "whack", but that means nothing to me. I have a different read on JakeStan (now Nabe's slot) why is that read such a big deal to you? You even bring up a problem with July and PBJ coming at me, but not going after JS. That is what is whack about their push on me besides that and many other things. You got my attention with your vote and gathering July onto me, but this is where this ends because I do not feel like playing the "Lynch J D1" game because you will not gather much info from my flip. I will flip town and you will garner flack like you did in that one game I was in a hydra with Seph like 2 years ago and you got my slot vigged after lynching 2 scum-reads in 1 Day.

Let's continue with this though because I am going to squash even the tiniest notion that the possibility of your push being real on me. I am going to talk about the possibility that your read on me is real and that you do believe I am scum. Your push on me is on the fact that I quickly came to a conclusion for a town-lean on the slot. How is this different from other games I have played? You say that it has to deal with the way that I reacted to his post. Why are you choosing to interpret the way I am choosing to read a completely fresh and new player this game? I came to my conclusions on players through my own methods and you know it is hard for me to explain things without proof of connections, but D1 has no connections for me so I have to go off of gut and vibe. Maybe I should have not reacted the way I should have in hindsight, but am I going to apologize for that? Hell no. I am going to own up to it and say that I reacted the way I did was because I was genuinely happy with the fact that I could be able to relate to someone who seems to play the way I do.

That's a thing that a lot of people in this game I have not been able to go into. So let me begin to list what I say in JS' post that people missed.

The reason I saw JakeStan as a likeable figure was the fact that I understood where he was coming from when he was pressuring Honk. People complained that what he was doing was totally just "Textbook mafia 101". Where the absolute **** is the explanation for why this was scummy? This is literally a throw away reason to create suspicion on JakeStan without actually giving a legit reason as to why the slot is possibly scum. If anyone, and I repeat anyone of mafia experience in this game (a.k.a. Myself/Marshy/July/Gheb/*now*Nabe/even Gorf) typed that exact same post. No one would have batten an eye. The reason I read him as town is because he legitimately had the exact same thought I had when I read people when I am town. It is something that is privy to what I do and I could 100% relate to why he was doing things. I find no fault in the fact that I was town-leaning on a slot super early in the game (like pg.5) because I town-read slots much quicker than scum-reading slots. JakeStan was a town-lean and still is one of mine and hopefully Nabe will establish that read better for me, however, no one in this game has given me a reason to look at him any differently. I am going to rely on Nabe to solidfy this and/or people's flips and connections to this slot.

However, let me quote your(marshy) reasoning for disliking my slot:

"j has done some questionable **** around here and i fully encourage people ****ting on him"

Questionable ****? Where? Point this out. You encourage people ****ting on me, but for a non-existant reason besides the fact that you seem to be reading me as scum. That is a bunch of bull. Why are you relying on the sheer fact of July's tunnel-visioned "JDLR" read on me? So this is where I truly do not think that you feel I am scum and moreso just pushing me to further your read on me. This is your chance to back off of this until another day-phase to pursue this, I suggest you take it or this ride is going to get even worse.

I am sorry, Frozen, not really going to be talking to you much since I know how to your read your slot through marshy and I am 100% on my reading of him.

I will say that my read on the Marshy slot is I am leaning town. Mainly because he dropped a town-tell I know of and I am going to assume that true until I see how his pushes turn up. (pushes he pushes to lynch) At the current time, I do not have a problem with this slot sans the push on me. I get a lot of what they are saying and truly feel like they are just being misguided in that sense. I get why they don't like JS, but I have little care for that because it's not how I am reading that slot. What I want them to go more into is the Honk vs. IR holding one scum theory they are looking at. I did not think of it as that way when reading it and the more I read it the more I am feeling the whole debacle between the two is leading up a classic TvT scenario.

UMM GUYS ACCORDING TO J HE READS FROMAR AS TOWN BECAUSE HE GETS A LOT OF WHAT THEY ARE SAYING AND THAT THEY ARE BEING MISGUIDED. THIS ENTIRE MOTHER ****ING WALL OF HATE JUST LED TO A TOWN READ ON THE SLOT, A READ THAT HE IS WILLING TO WAIT ON FURTHER ANALYZING. THIS IS A VERY BIZARRE CONCLUSION ISN'T IT? AM I JUST GOING CRAZY?

With a game like this? Yes. There are things to look at through the active players and as who could possibly be those "scummy actives"? I would say I am leaning IR. Gorf I am beginning to have my eye on just because he is really the middle-man in every argument so far with going back and forth and saying that he is okay with a lot of things. (Honk/Garg/Myself) I hate to bite the hand that has been helping me a bit (but backstabbing me at the same time), but it's really troubling me the more I see the exact same thing every time he posts.

Since I am caught-up now, I can post *with this post as segway* to what I am feeling right now:

Would not lynch toDay:
1. frozenmarsh751 (frozenflame751/marshy)
2. July (I feel July is town, but her reads are terrible this game, imo. I feel she is 2/3 wrong on her scum-read possibilites *well I know 1/3 but technicalities*)
5. ヽ(*・ω・)ﾉ♪ (-Masquerain-/soup) *Strongest town-read after re-read*
11. Gargaglione
6. Rid****ulous (PJB/Orbo)

Nulls that I am not 100% sold on either way:
3. Gorf
7. Nicholas1024
10. BadWolf28738(he literally only has one post...)

Would lynch:
4. Kary
8. Gheb_01
12. Nabe jakestan
13. Red Ruy(still not vibing well but out of this category, last on my lynch-list after full re-read.)

Unvote

Going to think where my vote should go. I doubt I would be able to swing 1/2 of these so it seems I am mainly coming down to which one of Kary/Nabe would be my preferred lynch toDay.

J's updated readslist, and yes, I tried looking for any mention of marshy during his flurry of posts, and yes, it's non existent.

vote karebear

completely down with this. gheb is hilarious. i share many of the sentiments expressed in 516

Well **** me sideways. I thought this catchup might be a struggle, but J has never been scummier, so whatever I missed I can save for later.



^ what this guy said.



Calling yourself out for how bad your post and play are, doesn't make your play any better. Hell, what even motivates this whiplash-quick change of heart?

You pour your time and energy into the great wall of china and then you sell it on for sixpence? Or are you just pouring time and energy into trying to save your scummy a$$
Vote: J

Awe Kary you're so sweet reaffirming my town read on you

unvote
fos red ruy

scummy as ****

im rereading this ****ing game soon (im on like page 6). finna get at frozen soon and finally decide on a direction cuz ive had to waste time and energy this dayphase wagoning people not doing **** just to get anything worthwhile from them. now that i can actually play mafia instead of babysitting worthless mother****ers lets see whats crackin

And that's all that I think matters D1.

Vote Fromar

Discuss.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

this is like that time when gorf came at me in the mini when i was obvtown

gorf officially loses his ****ing mind once again

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Anyone else?

 

[frozenmarsh751]

>townreads jakestan cuz j buddied him and called me town

>scumreads me cuz j buddied me and called me town

so do you really want me to go and spin all that wifom the other day or can you wise the **** up and vote dabunz? you yourself said bwolfs post sucked so you should at least see where im comin from and your justification of his play aligning with that of canadafia is more reason TO VOTE HIM. i had to practically FORCE bwolf to post in that game cuz he loses his **** as scum which is probably what he did here. also way to completely ignore my push on j which i only relented cuz garg essentially came out like "HEY EVERYONE IM SCUM!"

i REALLY hope you are not this bad gorf. remind to smack the **** outta you when i roll through florida

 

[frozenmarsh751]

Also, and this may be a bit of a long ****, but I don't think scumGarg would flub his partner's (BWolf's) name like that. BWolf had like, what, two posts in the game or something as of this point, certainly far from a presence. However, there's no way that these scum partners wouldn't have enough interaction outside of thread to at least be able to identify each other's names (and **** all of you who think it's possible for BWolf OR J to have not acknowledged his existence at this point). The only option that this leaves these guys as scummates is that Garg intentionally flubbed his name for the sole purpose of flubbing it, which, while possible, is doubtful.

youve gotta be ****ting with me with this. he was clearly mocking his name as opposed to legitimately believing that was his username

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

>townreads jakestan cuz j buddied him and called me town

>scumreads me cuz j buddied me and called me town

Uh no. If you think, or if you think I think, J's position on jakestan and his position on you are the same then you're mad. But go ahead and keep generalizing my points.

so do you really want me to go and spin all that wifom the other day or can you wise the **** up and vote dabunz? you yourself said bwolfs post sucked so you should at least see where im comin from and your justification of his play aligning with that of canadafia is more reason TO VOTE HIM. i had to practically FORCE bwolf to post in that game cuz he loses his **** as scum which is probably what he did here. also way to completely ignore my push on j which i only relented cuz garg essentially came out like "HEY EVERYONE IM SCUM!"

Oh I'm not letting dabuz' slot off. I'm just not closing this Day without looking at our options. I'm taking that one post from BWolf with a grain of salt cuz yes, it sucked, but it DID look kinda alright from townBWolf's perspective. If you recall that is literally all of the content from that slot, and I've yet to get to D2. Also, your push on J existed, but since you insist on NOT putting yourself out there it's hard to trace your steps, so it turns what could definitely be town reads into null reads. So excuse me but I'd rather gauge the room and get some perspective on the topic, ya know, in case I'm right or something.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

youve gotta be ****ting with me with this. he was clearly mocking his name as opposed to legitimately believing that was his username

lol it's a bad point consider it dropped

 

[frozenmarsh751]

Uh no. If you think, or if you think I think, J's position on jakestan and his position on you are the same then you're mad. But go ahead and keep generalizing my points.

and youre an idiot barking up the wrong tree whos a ****ing moron if you think im gonna sit here and let you **** on me uncontested when this is top 5 ****tiest reasons for voting someone ive ever seen in my life

js buddying of me was more subtle but def existed if you actually read this game like a sane person ("i am beginning to see a honk/riddick team. marshy/gheb thoughts?" along with a bevy of others) and stop playing like a ******. i encourage you to actually read the way he treated me which was more a getting on my good side than anything else and youre also wrong in saying i didnt do anything this game. d1 i was pushing j for the most part (i pushed karebear but he DESERVED it for disappearing and i switched back when it mattered) but relented when GARG WHO WAS SCUM made an obvscum post at which point i was down to off him. youre saying "HERP MARSHY WANTED J BUT SO EVERYONE ELSE" but youre forgetting that i was one of the main pushers d1 who relented for the sake of compromise and scumreading someone else. put the walrus down for a second and wake the **** up dude

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Dude long story but if I'm going nuts it may be the depressing lack of walrus in my life

Also, I didn't realize I forgot to say it, but Garg's one mention of BWolf is grimy as ****. He bundled em with Ruy in the null and not here list. Looks like a desperate attempt to acknowledge him some way in the same way that I see it with fromar. If I had to pick a grimier interaction it'd be the one with BWolf, cuz just picking townBWolf to mention seems MUCH more far fetched than the actual possibility of scumGarg just wanting a different opinion on townfromar.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

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**** marshy, stop making yourself a headache to read please, I mean at least you were the only read I was willing to reconsider but like **** when I literally only have so many things to base my read of you off of you can't hate on me misreading you,

vote dabunz

**** dabunz. Also if this is a ML you're next cuz no ****in WAY am I wrong about the rest of em.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh and get your ass on Skype bruh

 

[Dabuz]

I have a feeling there's a lot of stupidity going on in this thread, will be reading tomorrow.

 

[Dabuz]

@Mod: Update the thread title please.

 

[rid****ulous]

That exchange did a whole lot of not much aside from making me feel better bout gorf

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Is Nabe still your top prospect? If so tell me why I'm wrong about J and jakestan not being aligned.

 

[rid****ulous]

Joker is much more vehement about this and I just got back from 7 hours at the schoolhouse. Can I answer this later/have him handle it?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

You can answer this later sure but I'd LOVE for you to smack some sense into joker for me while you're out since I'm sure you understand that somebody being bad isn't justification for their death when objectively better options are on the table.