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Fire Emblem Triad

MarsBitrona

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As far as Fire Emblem characters go, most the suggestions I've seen involve little more than replacing Roy with another sword character like Ike or Lyndis. However, in my experience with the Fire Emblem games, one of the key elements at the core of the game design is the triangle of weapons. Everyone who's played a Fire Emblem game knows that Sword beats Axe, Axe beats Lance, and Lance beats Sword. With this being a law so important in Fire Emblem games, why would they just add another sword character? I think the perfect setup for Brawl would be three Fire Emblem characters, one with a sword, one with an axe, and one with a lance. Not only would this bring about new, interesting play styles outside of "Marth-clone", but it would also embody one of the things that makes Fire Emblem so good in the first place. As for characters...

Sword: Marth can easily stay in this role. Regardless of how he played in SSBM (which really should be the last thing anyone should think about), he is the hero of the very first Fire Emblem title, thus appropriately earning him a permanent spot on the Smash Bros roster.

Axe: Hector would be a good choice for the axe man, being one of the main characters of the first american Fire Emblem game. Since Smash Bros is as important to an American audience as it is in Japan, characters from this game should have a better chance. Plus, as far as recent Fire Emblem games are concerned, Hector is the only main character who weilds an axe.

Lance: So I just (like, within the last 5 minutes) discovered there actually has been a recent Fire Emblem title where the star wields a lance just after I wrote up a whole thing about how there wasn't. Ephraim from the Sacred Stones for GBA is, as it turns out, the best fighter with a lance in his entire country. I can't say I'm not impressed. While I'm generally unfamiliar with this game, I can't speak to how good a character he is, but he successfully completes the triangle with all main characters (and he's the only one of my picks without blue hair). Other picks for lance characters are Sain from Fire Emblem, who just happens to be one my favorite characters in any game, and Oscar from Path of Radiance, who deserves a mention because none of my picks thus far have represented one of the latest and most popular entries into the series for the GCN (and I understand the upcoming Wii game is a continuation of this).

So this is just a possibility of what they could do with Fire Emblem characters in Brawl which I found a little more interesting than just opting for additional sword characters. Plus, with a series so huge and with so many characters, it would be impractical to try to represent every title in the series. This way, the classic FE titles can still get recognition but can easily be accompanied with characters from the newer games which made the franchise a success worldwide, while also paying tribute to one of the key ideas the series was built upon.

Can this idea work? If you think you have better character suggestions for the three weapon types, post away. And before anybody gets an itchy thread-closing-finger, keep in mind that this is not a thread designed to promote any specific characters, but the idea of the characters being based around the rock-paper-scissors style weapon triangle present in all Fire Emblem games since 1996.
 

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That's actually a very interesting argument. Maybe they could actually give the characters strengths against each other like in the game...

I don't see more than two FE characters appearing, though.
 

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While I feel that 3 FE characters may happen, I don't think we'll be seeing much of the weapon triad. The 2 most likely FE characters, Ike as a newcomer and Marth as a returner, are both swordsmen, and if we are only taking main characters into consideration, then you are really hard picked to find non sword wielding lords. Not to mention Sigurd seems to be a popular choice (I know he uses lances, but he seems to be a swordsman at heart), and with Roy, while largely considered gone, could still return. It's unfortunate, but swordsmen dominate the FE candidates for brawl.

True, we do have some saving grace in Hector and Ephraim, but I don't think they are that popular in Japan. Granted, Hector could get in as Sakurai's way of appeasing the international audience, but chances are he'll just stick to PoR and GoD to appease both. Still, I feel they are the best candidates for their respective weapon class (I'd personally love it if Ephraim got in).

It is a nice idea, and would definitely help create more variety amongst the FE franchise representatives, but the swordsmen just seem more likely candidates. Still, I'm all for variety, so hopefully Sakurai will add at least one non-sword wielder.
 

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I have seen a big huge theory that the castle seen in the trailers, the one where from which Fire Emblem it was wasn't really certain, would basically confirm the inclusion of Marth. It was mainly the throne room which set the theory.
 

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We know Marth will be in.

Hector is popular in the U.S., no doubt, but GBA Fire Emblems are despised in Japan.

Ephraim has no chance because he pales in comparison to other FE characters and his game isn't popular.
 

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We don't "know" if marth will be in, his place might be taken by Ike, he is popular worldwide isn't it? and if Ike is added he opens the door for the Black Knight. But hey, who here can say that they whon't add the three.

Or perhaps just Marth and Ike.
 

MarsBitrona

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We don't "know" if marth will be in, his place might be taken by Ike, he is popular worldwide isn't it? and if Ike is added he opens the door for the Black Knight. But hey, who here can say that they whon't add the three.

Or perhaps just Marth and Ike.
I would have a big rant about how Marth is more popular than Ike and how they're pretty much the same character, but I'd rather not see this thread get more off-topic than it already is.

I'll say it again, this is not promoting specific characters, but the weapon triangle idea for Fire Emblem characters in Brawl. The characters that fill the sword, axe and lance spots aren't actually that important, I was just trying to show that not every important wields a sword and that it could be done. Plus, I also needed an excuse to mention Sain, because he rocks.
 

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Well no, Ike has a more rough battle style with the sword not to mention he's overall a whole different sort of character than Marth. Marth is far more specialised in Luck and Speed, and his main weapon was always a Rapier. Ike's sword isn't a rapier, but that doesn't mather since he swings it around like if it was an axe.

Besides, Ike and Marth are in about the same populairity I guess. Marth was in Melee and is still a very populair character, and Ike was in Path of Ridiance which was for sure a very good GameCube title and populair. But since Ike is international I say that he'd take Brawl's spot before Marth but I still say they'll make it back both.
 

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Here's who I think will be in:

Marth: Started off Fire Emblem, you can't kick him out
Ike: Very popular, and the star of the last two FE games
Sigurd: Most popular lord, and one of Sakurai's favourites.
 

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Fire Emblem should be represented with at least four characters, but I am personally going for five. We also need some female Fire Emblem characters. Super Smash Bros. series never had a swordswoman before.

Marth: Started the Fire Emblem franchise and its Lord class.
Ike: Very popular Lord character, and the protagonist of the last two existing Fire Emblem games
Lyndis: The first female Lord character and first Lord character to appear in a U.S. released Fire Emblem game
Sigurd: Most popular Lord, and one of Sakurai's favorites.
Ayra: Most popular female Fire Emblem character (arguably, at least in Japan), started Fire Emblem's Swordmaster class, and must get in if Lip from Panel de Pon makes it in.


Did you know this: In Japan, Fire Emblem is more popular than Legend of Zelda.
You must respect the Japanese audience when it comes to SSB.
 

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I personally don't think Ike is going to get in. Having two blue haires swordsmen from the same game that look very similar. It doesn't matter if their styles are not similar. Their designs are. People would have trouble telling them apart. If we have Marth, we don't need Ike.
 

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Ike looks nothing like Marth aside from the same hair color. That's like saying Mario and Luigi look the same. Ike has a much more muscular physique than Marth and he wields a broadsword, unlike Marth's rapier. Ike is also slightly taller and has a more masculine face than Marth. Marth looks like a graceful swordsman, while Ike looks more like a mercinary (pun completely intended)

Ike is a very popular and almost guarenteed slot for melee. He stars in the widely popular PoR and he stars again for the most recent game GoD. The only two Lords to have more than one staring role are Ike (FE 9 and 10) and Marth(FE 1and 3). Marth is very likely to return because he's the first lord in FE and is the face of the franchise, he's starred in more than one FE both of which were very popular, and he's popular in Melee giving him world wide popularity. He's even more popular than Ike if you include all of his fans (both from FE and Melee) so he's definetly getting back in. If they do happen to give FE more than two slots than I think that spot should go to either Hector (axe would be different, but not neccessary) or Lyn (another girl in Melee couldn't hurt).
 

MarsBitrona

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Let me try this again...
The specific characters they would add isn't the point. The point is that they should do three characters with the three different weapon types the Fire Emblem games are built on. It isn't a matter of which character is more popular or likely to get in, there's a million other topics for that. This is (or should be) a discussion of the idea of building the Fire Emblem cast of Brawl around the idea of the weapon triangle.
 

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I'd prefer a more recent sword character such as Ike (although they could have both, just not clones). The other two are fine though. What could their Final Smashes be?
 

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Yeah I want my anti fox sothe (faster than fox and has easier too combo moves) plus I want to see sonic go toe too toe with him
 

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some one mentioned this already in another thread, its basicly the same exact conclusion u got.

Oscar does not have the potential to be the lance rep, Ephraim would defintaly take the cake in Lance.

Marth = sword definatly, but there are so many people that could chanlange him for that position, but Marth is still more important to the seires than anyone else, maybe not Sigurd.

Hector is the only axe user lord, so obviously its him for axe, and hes popular.

Ephraim would be my suggestion for lance, since he is the first character for the "good guys" to use lance on foot, (expt Ruka from FE 2 but no one cares about FE 2)

another idea is that maybe we want some magic users in as well, like Micaiah for example, she's a mage (I think), and a lord, so if she's in brawl, it would make a very interesting moveset, and its entirely possible.
 
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Marth(Mars)

Marth (マルス, Marusu/Mars?) is a character from the Fire Emblem series of video games. More specifically, he is the central protagonist and Lord-class character of the original game, Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi (The Dark Dragon and Sword of Light) and the third game, Fire Emblem: Monshō no Nazo (Mystery of the Emblem). He is the only character in the history of the series to star as the central character in more than one Fire Emblem game

Ayra(Ira)

She was the first popular female swordfighter in Fire Emblem history, and the representation of the 'Nabarl' archetype in Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu. She was the first female of the Nabarl archetype, and she was also the first of the Nabarl archetype to be a member of royalty (later followed by Joshua of Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones). She was also the first recruitable Myrmidon and Swordmaster. She also possesses the special skill known as Ryuuseiken, or Meteor Sword. Due to the difficulty of recruiting her, Ayra may be killed off as an enemy by players who are new to Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu (which would be a huge loss to Sigurd's party and regretful to Celice's party), but she is very highly praised by more knowledgeable fans of the game and is one of the more popular Nabarl characters. She is the first recruitable enemy in the game. She is the first character to appear in the default demo sequence of the game, alongside Shanan. She is introduced at the beginning of Chapter 1 of Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu, shortly after Eltosian is through meeting with Sigurd. When she is introduced, Kinbois talks with her.



Sigurd


*SPOILERS TO AN EXTENT*
Lord Sigurd, the son of Lord Byron (Vylon), a descendant of Baldo, one of the 12 Jugdral Crusaders, is a prince of Chalphy Castle of the Kingdom of Grandbell, the center country in the continent of Jugdral. According to unofficial manga, he was born in Gran 734; he stands 178 centimeters tall, and he weighs 70.2 kilograms. He initially wields the Steel Sword, then mostly the Silver Sword (given by Alvis on behalf of Prince Kult in the Prologue chapter), and later the Tyrfing, which he used in Chapter 5 of Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu. Ethlin is his younger sister. Cuan is his brother-in-law and best friend, and Ethlin's husband (Cuan is a reference to a mythological legend Kian, who was in love with a mythological princess named Ethlinn). His son Celice takes over in Chapter 6 of the game, finishing what he started. According to the end of Chapter 6, Sigurd was well loved by many people of Jugdral continent. Oifaye calls him a "kindhearted man" when he rescues Shanan at Genoa Castle in Chapter 1. Mananan, the father of a sword demon called Princess Ayra of the Kingdom of Isaac, often looked to Sigurd's father Byron for advice. Since Chapter 3, Sigurd is accused of treason against Grandbell by his own country.

Before the onset of Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu, Sigurd attended the Royal Academy of Barhara alongside his brother-in-law Cuan and Nodion's King Eltosian. Cuan later married Sigurd's sister Ethlin. In the Prologue, Sigurd heard the news that most of Grandbell's army, including most of Chalphy's army, is en route to invade the Kingdom of Isaac, the northeasternmost country in Jugdral. He also heard that his childhood friend Aideen is captured by Gandolf. He was prepared to fight the Verdanian army by himself, but Noish and Alec spoke against it, fearing to let him die fighting alone in the battlefield. Arden joined in shortly thereafter. Finally, the 14-year-old Oifey joined Sigurd to be his tactician. Meanwhile, Cuan, Ethlin, and Fin of Lenster heard about Sigurd's skirmish with Verdane. They traveled to Chalphy and joined Sigurd's cause while Sigurd was en route to Jungby. Earlier, Azel joined Sigurd's cause without his paternal halfbrother Alvis's consent and invited Lex to join. Sigurd fought Dimaggio and conquered Jungby. He begged Midale to rest, but Midale was determined to rescue Aideen, thus joining Sigurd's cause. Alvis walks over to Jungby territory to assess the state of the conflict with Verdane. Azmur ordered him to give Sigurd the Silver Sword. Sigurd is regarded by his citizens as a "kindhearted man", and Azel wishes that Alvis could be more like him. Sigurd and his army fight off Gerrard's army and conquer Evans castle.

All info was sourced from Wiki.

These are the only 3 lords you'll need in brawl.
 

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Marth(Mars)

Marth (マルス, Marusu/Mars?) is a character from the Fire Emblem series of video games. More specifically, he is the central protagonist and Lord-class character of the original game, Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi (The Dark Dragon and Sword of Light) and the third game, Fire Emblem: Monshō no Nazo (Mystery of the Emblem). He is the only character in the history of the series to star as the central character in more than one Fire Emblem game

Ayra(Ira)

She was the first popular female swordfighter in Fire Emblem history, and the representation of the 'Nabarl' archetype in Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu. She was the first female of the Nabarl archetype, and she was also the first of the Nabarl archetype to be a member of royalty (later followed by Joshua of Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones). She was also the first recruitable Myrmidon and Swordmaster. She also possesses the special skill known as Ryuuseiken, or Meteor Sword. Due to the difficulty of recruiting her, Ayra may be killed off as an enemy by players who are new to Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu (which would be a huge loss to Sigurd's party and regretful to Celice's party), but she is very highly praised by more knowledgeable fans of the game and is one of the more popular Nabarl characters. She is the first recruitable enemy in the game. She is the first character to appear in the default demo sequence of the game, alongside Shanan. She is introduced at the beginning of Chapter 1 of Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu, shortly after Eltosian is through meeting with Sigurd. When she is introduced, Kinbois talks with her.



Sigurd


*SPOILERS TO AN EXTENT*
Lord Sigurd, the son of Lord Byron (Vylon), a descendant of Baldo, one of the 12 Jugdral Crusaders, is a prince of Chalphy Castle of the Kingdom of Grandbell, the center country in the continent of Jugdral. According to unofficial manga, he was born in Gran 734; he stands 178 centimeters tall, and he weighs 70.2 kilograms. He initially wields the Steel Sword, then mostly the Silver Sword (given by Alvis on behalf of Prince Kult in the Prologue chapter), and later the Tyrfing, which he used in Chapter 5 of Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu. Ethlin is his younger sister. Cuan is his brother-in-law and best friend, and Ethlin's husband (Cuan is a reference to a mythological legend Kian, who was in love with a mythological princess named Ethlinn). His son Celice takes over in Chapter 6 of the game, finishing what he started. According to the end of Chapter 6, Sigurd was well loved by many people of Jugdral continent. Oifaye calls him a "kindhearted man" when he rescues Shanan at Genoa Castle in Chapter 1. Mananan, the father of a sword demon called Princess Ayra of the Kingdom of Isaac, often looked to Sigurd's father Byron for advice. Since Chapter 3, Sigurd is accused of treason against Grandbell by his own country.

Before the onset of Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu, Sigurd attended the Royal Academy of Barhara alongside his brother-in-law Cuan and Nodion's King Eltosian. Cuan later married Sigurd's sister Ethlin. In the Prologue, Sigurd heard the news that most of Grandbell's army, including most of Chalphy's army, is en route to invade the Kingdom of Isaac, the northeasternmost country in Jugdral. He also heard that his childhood friend Aideen is captured by Gandolf. He was prepared to fight the Verdanian army by himself, but Noish and Alec spoke against it, fearing to let him die fighting alone in the battlefield. Arden joined in shortly thereafter. Finally, the 14-year-old Oifey joined Sigurd to be his tactician. Meanwhile, Cuan, Ethlin, and Fin of Lenster heard about Sigurd's skirmish with Verdane. They traveled to Chalphy and joined Sigurd's cause while Sigurd was en route to Jungby. Earlier, Azel joined Sigurd's cause without his paternal halfbrother Alvis's consent and invited Lex to join. Sigurd fought Dimaggio and conquered Jungby. He begged Midale to rest, but Midale was determined to rescue Aideen, thus joining Sigurd's cause. Alvis walks over to Jungby territory to assess the state of the conflict with Verdane. Azmur ordered him to give Sigurd the Silver Sword. Sigurd is regarded by his citizens as a "kindhearted man", and Azel wishes that Alvis could be more like him. Sigurd and his army fight off Gerrard's army and conquer Evans castle.

All info was sourced from Wiki.

These are the only 3 lords you'll need in brawl.

Ayra isn't a lord. Marth and Sigurd are, and then Celice becomes lord, and also ,all of these characters use swords, defeats out purpose of talking about the "triad"
 

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good triad would be ike, hector, and ephraim.

this is flawed however because i feel ephraim has better chances then hector being the more recent character, and on top of that i've heard very convincing arguements about sigurd that would put him over ephraim.

what i see as most likely would be ike, black knight, and then either sigurd or ephraim
 

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hey wait a min what do u think, marth isn't better then ike rule

because he is to strong

and who think that girly face looks like ike?

and with black knight their could be a nice fantastic event the event will rock
 

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i think most people agree that ike is better then marth, and sakurai did say how he wanted to keep japan only characters to a minimum
 

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a good triad?
Roy, (or Eliwood, since they're similar, being related and all) Lyndis, and Hector.
FE 7 anyone?

Wait... I'd kick out Marth?

the answer is: "although I want them all back, if I had to choose who goes and who stays..." well, I'll get back to that."
Marth just seems too... feminine... to me.
thanks to someone on DA, I've been able to relate to Roy, being short and fire-obsessed and all. he's kinda... my icon.
that last sentence aside, if I had to drop an FE character, and I was in charge, it'd be Marth. Sorry, but that's the way I roll.
 

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We've beaten this topic to death before. All that I'm saying anymore is that there will at least be TWO Fire Emblem characters in Brawl. I base this on the fact that Fire Emblem has grown in popularity since the release of Melee in 2001. I say 2, because if the series has gone up, then there should be more than the previous amount of characters, which was 1.5 characters. So, the only thing to do is have at least 2 characters.
 

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i think it'll be at least 3 FE character, unless an advance wars character makes it in then it'll be 2
 

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Actually, Masahiro Sakurai is already considering non-Lords as playable characters. Some non-Lords, such as Oguma, were mentioned on the Toukouken poll. Having Fire Emblem represented with only three characters will do me no good. I would say four, five, or maybe six if you are lucky.
 

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I would like to see Marth and Ayra in there, a female FE character would be a nice touch i think...but idk wouldn't she be all uber fast like marth...and a sword...almost seems like a clone, and not something u need to add in this game...if they can find a way to mix it up (which i am sure they can) then they should go for it!

Hector, good touch with the axe that be the first, and his move set i can see completely differ from the offers...but would he be to sluggish? The lords in FE where uber and just totally barbaric...i love it! haha, so i wonder where his balance would lie at?

Ephraim (sorry spelling, will fix later), lance...wow...BROKEN RANGE, I REPEAT BROKEN! But then again he might be sluggish as well...

AHHH ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND NO ANSWERS
**** YOU DECEMBER 3RD
COME SOONER!!!!


also, to add

Final smashes...i wonder if it will just be the critical hits from the FE...HITTING THEM UBER HARD AND HARD AND MAKING A LOUD NOISE *KA-TOOSH!*
lol just messing

GOD I WANNA SEE WHAT THEY WILL DO!
 

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Having Fire Emblem represented with only three characters will do me no good. I would say four, five, or maybe six if you are lucky.
... that's... too bad for you.
Three is probably the absolute maximum.
Fire Emblem became more popular, but it hasn't suddenly overtaken Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong or other franchises. Not to mention that Sakurai probably prefers to add unique characters instead of lots of people who happen to have different weapons.
You can be as much a fan of the series as you want, that won't change much.
 

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Fawriel does prove an excellent point...plus if u added anymore then 3 characters from FE...then whats that make for the other categories?
Is the metroid series gonna get more characters like
-Ridley
-Samus
-Zsuit samus
-NOW A PLAYABLE METROID

i mean come on
if u had more then 3 FE characters their moves would almost be the same
plus u cant just add like a background character you would need to add the lords
and most lords i believe used the swords...
which means ur probably gonna get a clone or two again
lawl
 

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each fire emblem game set in a different universe (except a few games ) much like final fantasy .

IMO, one character will be taken from one game is fair .

two, however, is like faving one game over the other .

so black knight AND Ike isn't fair to the other characters from the series.

just one from each game is enough .
 

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that is my opinion

and the fact that why ike is the best fire emblem lord for brawl

ike rule overall ike my favorite fire emblem lord ever

ok let's see difrences between ike and marth(ifi was wrong in spelling forgive because im not english man ^^)

marth:

1.he is myromidon in lord name

2.he use light swords

3.he don't have spacial move in his game

4.he appeared in 2 game fire emblem 1and fire emblem 3

5.his look is bit girly

6.japan only -.-"(sure he is lonley
ike:

1.have 4 costumes :

1.Ranger costume

2.lord costume

3.Hero costume
link:http://youtube.com/watch?v=V2_H9KZWZeA
vanguard costume:
link 1:http://youtube.com/watch?v=NvfhL1BfByA
link 2:http:http://youtube.com/watch?v=9mtPtNTLdh8
Final smash:http:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DdI10VedxM

2.stared in 2 games Fire emblem: por and Fir emblem: God

3.have a nice fighting style

4.he is the lord who opened the door of 3d fire emblem

5.he use Swords and axes

6.rank SS on swords and A on axes

7.he is to tough and strong

8.have a nice stats in str,speed,skill

9.Worldwide ^^ HAHAHAHAHA!!!(maniac lugh)

10.Aether skill

Aether in Fire emblem: por : http:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4CsnIdq2U8Ike crit

Aether Vs Ashnard:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofufOvDZsaAbest 1in my opinion

Aether in Fire emblem: God :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DdI10VedxM
finally he is the perfect choice for SSBB ^^ :p:chuckle:
i hope u liked it
 

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... that's... too bad for you.
Three is probably the absolute maximum.
Fire Emblem became more popular, but it hasn't suddenly overtaken Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong or other franchises. Not to mention that Sakurai probably prefers to add unique characters instead of lots of people who happen to have different weapons.
You can be as much a fan of the series as you want, that won't change much.
Fire Emblem does not have to overtake Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, or Pokémon to be represented with four characters. If Fire Emblem is represented with less than four characters, it will most likely be represented with an all male lineup. There is actually a 50% to 75% chance that Fire Emblem will be represented with a little more than three characters. The most likely four is Marth, Sigurd, Lyndis, and Ike. They will all have unique movesets, as their moveset potential is already calculated. Sigurd can use both swords and lances. He is the most requested Lord besides Ike. Lyndis can use a sword and a bow.

I will boycott Brawl if Fire Emblem is represented with less than four characters.
 

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...you kinda failed to actually counter my point, or did I miss something?
Well... uh... if you really feel that way, have fun not playing Brawl, I guess.
 

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In Japan, Fire Emblem is more popular than Zelda. The Fire Emblem characters can have unique movesets if represented with four characters. Super Smash Bros. never had a female swordfighter.
 

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More popular than Zelda, hm? Well, okay then.
I still think 3 is the maximum. I assume that Sakurai will want to include more singular unique characters instead of increasing the representation of already present franchises.

Incidentally, Lyndis for Brawl, I guess?
 

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If they had a weapon triangle brawl loses it's balance, people will just keep switching char's to counter their opponents.
 
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