Fire Emblem Heroes Mafia: Book 2 - ENDGAME - A Surt-ain Mafia Loses, Town Prevails

[LoneKonWolf]

I didn’t want to have to do this day one. But I’m the viligante for the town. I can only kill two times the game and track pms.

You claim this now when holder has been threatening his gun all game? You could have at any point slighted him over it.

Mmmm... I do not think it is wise to vote for Z guys.
Trust me.

Explain.

 

[praline]

I didn’t want to have to do this day one. But I’m the viligante for the town. I can only kill two times the game and track pms.

How come Opo gave you 2 abilities and I get 1?

 

[Deleted member]

it isn't wise to kill holder either

so what's your point?

sorry z but holder's claimed his character and his role as our vig :'///

Unvote: No Lynch
Vote: Holder of the Heel

Sorry. Z sounds more convincing than Holder.

 

[Deleted member]

I didn’t want to have to do this day one. But I’m the viligante for the town. I can only kill two times the game and track pms.

You... you do realize you're counterclaiming Holder, right? And you didn't even claim until now despite the fact Holder's role has been known for god knows how long.
Character claim too, if you will

Vote: Z25

 

[Pokechu]

Opossum

Once we vote, can we move the votes/unvote to vote the other? Just need to know

 

[Z25]

it isn't wise to kill holder either

so what's your point?

sorry z but holder's claimed his character and his role as our vig :'///

You're claiming another person's role.

Vote Z25, guys

Do you really think I don’t realize this. I was going to wipe holder out tonight. I wasn’t going to jump on holder because I knew it would look bad.

Also in regardless of if I live or not someone in the game is grima and posing as robin. It’s in my description and goals

 

[Opossum]

Opossum

Once we vote, can we move the votes/unvote to vote the other? Just need to know

You may. Only because I didn't say so before though.

 

[Z25]

Also guys, holder claims berkut right?

Why the hell would he be the viligante?

Berkut sacrifices his ****ing wife to Satan as she’s burned alive. Why would he be a good guy?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Shiny's interaction with this lynch seems off.

 

[praline]

Also guys, holder claims berkut right?

Why the hell would he be the viligante?

Berkut sacrifices his ****ing wife to Satan as she’s burned alive. Why would he be a good guy?

That is a good point...

 

[Deleted member]

If someone claims your role, you counterclaim immediatelly, that's just how it works. And now Shiny is trying to save Z25, hm...

Also guys, holder claims berkut right?

Why the hell would he be the viligante?

Berkut sacrifices his ****ing wife to Satan as she’s burned alive. Why would he be a good guy?

Yet you haven't shared your own character, how curious...

 

[Deleted member]

it isn't wise to kill holder either

so what's your point?

sorry z but holder's claimed his character and his role as our vig :'///

I’m curious why? Not that I’m inthankful but just wondering

I think both Z25 and Holder need to do some explanation, but Z25 at least sounds more convincing.

 

[Ura]

Not responsible for voting this phase but I stand by what I said before. Z25 was unfairly blamed by some for going after a user who not only was silent but also refused to say anything to the point of stubborness.

If nothing else, i'm at least willing to wager he's more townie than trigger happy Holder who thinks it's okay to kill at random and threaten everyone Day 1. He's like White x100 in terms of scuminess.

 

[praline]

Z does need to give us his character

 

[LoneKonWolf]

This tie brings good tidings.

 

[praline]

Unvote

 

[Deleted member]

If Z25 flips Town, we lynch Holder on D2. If he flips Mafia, we lynch Shiny. Regardless of the outcome, we have our suspect for tomorrow.

 

[Ura]

You're claiming another person's role.

Vote Z25, guys

Holy Moly Raveoli!

Was that a fake roleclaim?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

If Z25 flips Town, we lynch Holder on D2. If he flips Mafia, we lynch Shiny. Regardless of the outcome, we have our suspect for tomorrow.

We don't need to frontload the lynches that much. For one thing, Holder is still claiming dayvig, so he can prove himself with a shot toMorrow if he's alive. Scum doesn't have a dayvig. And if Z25 flips town, we would know that Holder isn't an indy dayvig, because he didn't safeclaim Robin.

 

[praline]

Actualky i will vote Z

Vote Z

 

[Deleted member]

We don't need to frontload the lynches that much. For one thing, Holder is still claiming dayvig, so he can prove himself with a shot toMorrow if he's alive. Scum doesn't have a dayvig. And if Z25 flips town, we would know that Holder isn't an indy dayvig, because he didn't safeclaim Robin.

Holder can just prove his role toDay if he actually shot someone.

 

[Z25]

If someone claims your role, you counterclaim immediatelly, that's just how it works. And now Shiny is trying to save Z25, hm...

Yet you haven't shared your own character, how curious...

I’m virion who seems to be here due to the plot continuation from the last one.

My pm mentions how someone has resurected the fallen one and they are hiding amongst troops. It’s heavy on the summoner story from the last game.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

We don't need to frontload the lynches that much. For one thing, Holder is still claiming dayvig, so he can prove himself with a shot toMorrow if he's alive. Scum doesn't have a dayvig. And if Z25 flips town, we would know that Holder isn't an indy dayvig, because he didn't safeclaim Robin.

I do agree on not frongloading lynches. However you can never be to certain on who is who based off roles. Cops are often mafia, protectors can also be on their side, extra shots have no factor with them. Just because someone proves their role or not should be no way in meaning of the confirmation of their alignment. Its rather their actions they do with such that proves it.

 

[praline]

A part of me thinks we should just tie the votes

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Holy Moly Raveoli!

Was that a fake roleclaim?

Your vitriol is making you look a lot worse than you seem to think. If you're town, back off and stop drawing associations between you and Z25, because it's going to waste a lot of time on a Z25 scumflip, and you can hang Holder toMorrow on a town flip.

I do agree on not frongloading lynches. However you can never be to certain on who is who based off roles. Cops are often mafia, protectors can also be on their side, extra shots have no factor with them. Just because someone proves their role or not should be no way in meaning of the confirmation of their alignment. Its rather their actions they do with such that proves it.

While I appreciate where you're coming from, we can at least agree that it's heavily unlikely that the mafia would have a dayvig. And if the possibility still seems to be trouble to you, Holder can be told to shoot where town wants him to and thinks is scummiest.

 

[Z25]

A part of me thinks we should just tie the votes

Wouldn’t that just lock the tie breaker

 

[Pokechu]

Vote: Z25

 

[Pokechu]

That is a good point...

Why would Swordhardt be townie after Reinhardt wasn't?

I don't think we should give Z25 the benefit of the doubt.

 

[praline]

Wouldn’t that just lock the tie breaker

He said both of you will die in a tie.

 

[Z25]

Why would Swordhardt be townie after Reinhardt wasn't?

I don't think we should give Z25 the benefit of the doubt.

Are you claiming swordhart?

 

[praline]

Why would Swordhardt be townie after Reinhardt wasn't?

I don't think we should give Z25 the benefit of the doubt.

He is because Opo decided he was.

 

[Z25]

He said both of you will die in a tie.

Oh well that’s not fun

 

[LoneKonWolf]

While I appreciate where you're coming from, we can at least agree that it's heavily unlikely that the mafia would have a dayvig. And if the possibility still seems to be trouble to you, Holder can be told to shoot where town wants him to and thinks is scummiest.

I agree nothing. In fact a dayvig sounds more likely then a night vig for mafia to me, being able to kill where a protector can not.

At least that is just me, i don't like holders plan and his actions today, but i can't denounce him as mafia through it, it'll have to be a wait and see thing.

 

[praline]

Are you claiming swordhart?

No I’m Reinhardt with a sword.

 

[Pokechu]

He is because Opo decided he was.

Just like how Berkut could be townie because Opo decided he was.

I was just trying to say that you yourself have a surprising character claim, so Berkut being townie and it not making the most sense shouldn't cause you to discredit Holder.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Pokechu
I know you think Holder was a messy push, but what about Z25 is off for you?

 

[praline]

Just like how Berkut could be townie because Opo decided he was.

I was just trying to say that you yourself have a surprising character claim, so Berkut being townie and it not making the most sense shouldn't cause you to discredit Holder.

Atleast my ability makes sense for my character.

 

[Z25]

No I’m Reinhardt with a sword.

Oh I missed hat claim.

Just like how Berkut could be townie because Opo decided he was.

I was just trying to say that you yourself have a surprising character claim, so Berkut being townie and it not making the most sense shouldn't cause you to discredit Holder.

Reinhardt isn’t as psycho as Berkut though(I think) so he feels like a safer townie rather than berkut

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I would like to hear from Jojalole again toDay if he makes it.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I agree nothing. In fact a dayvig sounds more likely then a night vig for mafia to me, being able to kill where a protector can not.

At least that is just me, i don't like holders plan and his actions today, but i can't denounce him as mafia through it, it'll have to be a wait and see thing.

It's a numbers game, though. I understand as a claimed protective role why it might seem possible that a dayvig is meant to usurp your protection, but the reality is that it's statistically unlikely that you'd correctly protect the right player on any given Night. A mafia who can kill during the Day AND at Night gains a lot of value very quickly, and the town loses more numbers than they really should. It's not balanced, unless they have less members than they should.