Fire Emblem Heroes Mafia: Book 2 - ENDGAME - A Surt-ain Mafia Loses, Town Prevails

[Ura]

Look I know I said I didn't want to take sides and all (even though apparently I'm expected to do so according to some members here) but I think the suspicion for Z25 is a bit unwarranted.

I mean with the way Kon has been playing, it's only natural people would be suspicious of him. He outright said he wouldn't share any details so a lot of red flags go off immediately. If anyone else did that they would be Lynch material.

 

[Pokechu]

my only town read is shish

not to mention Pokechu being protective of Konnie

although I am curious why he thinks this when this is all I've said about Kon

Kon is his own man, let him be :V

At least he's said something, some people haven't even done that I think LOL

Saying "I won't say anything" is actually much worse than just not talking.

It's day 1 so there isn't much reason to reveal anything and this is Kon's first game. If I was in his shoes I wouldn't reveal anything either, and there's still MANY things he can contribute.

For example, how does he feel about Holder day killing? Villains being townies? Etc

Just because he doesn't want to reveal anything doesn't mean he should be voted.

I'm not asking him to reveal anything, just for him to participate in discussion, which he is actively denying. You're also being awfully protective of him for whatever reason.

lol how am I being "awfully" protective? my first post was a joke and my second was just saying he can say much more than his role

Which, I'll be honest, I did misread and I thought you were asking for his character/role, I apologize.

If he's actively denying participating in discussion though, then yeah, I can see where you're coming from. But I still wouldn't hold it against him because it's his first time playing and he'll probably have more ground to stand on after his support and using his ability.

I jump in defense of Kon saying that he shouldn't be voted just because he doesn't want to reveal anything. Isn't that the obvious? Shoot, Kon isn't even the only one I vouched for, I've done it with praline too. Shish tells me that he wasn't asking for him to reveal anything, and states I'm being "awfully protective" of him?

I admit even that I misread and thought Shish was asking Kon to drop his character or role, and that I can see where Shish is coming from if Kon was actively refusing to participate in discussion. So how am I being protective of Konnie?

also I'm quiet because I'm bored, give me something to do and I'll do it LOL

@Red Ryu

Did you Unvote Shiny before voting for Ura? I'm just asking because I think I forgot to put that in the rules. :x

I don't recall Red Ryu unvoting Shiny, but I just assumed that it wasn't a rule.

just my $0.02

 

[Deleted member]

my only town read is shish


although I am curious why he thinks this when this is all I've said about Kon






I jump in defense of Kon saying that he shouldn't be voted just because he doesn't want to reveal anything. Isn't that the obvious? Shoot, Kon isn't even the only one I vouched for, I've done it with praline too. Shish tells me that he wasn't asking for him to reveal anything, and states I'm being "awfully protective" of him?

I admit even that I misread and thought Shish was asking Kon to drop his character or role, and that I can see where Shish is coming from if Kon was actively refusing to participate in discussion. So how am I being protective of Konnie?

also I'm quiet because I'm bored, give me something to do and I'll do it LOL


I don't recall Red Ryu unvoting Shiny, but I just assumed that it wasn't a rule.

just my $0.02

I just don't see reason to defend him when you two don't even know each other from past games, you have no reason to do so. I'll admit I must have missed the point of it being a joke though, but I'll remind you to be careful with jokes during Mafia should you wish to not be misread later.

 

[praline]

At this point I think Shiny could be mafia. He’s quieter than normal and I think the longer someone goes without being mafia the more likely it is that they eventually will be.

But I’m not certain enough to vote for him.

 

[Pokechu]

I just don't see reason to defend him when you two don't even know each other from past games, you have no reason to do so. I'll admit I must have missed the point of it being a joke though, but I'll remind you to be careful with jokes during Mafia should you wish to not be misread later.

ohhhh that makes sense, I can understand that!

honestly it could have been anyone and I would've defended them there since I thought you were pushing for his character or some reveal and then voting him because you didn't get it

but looking back at it, yeah since I don't know Kon at all it does make sense why you thought I was being overly protective

 

[Pokechu]

At this point I think Shiny could be mafia. He’s quieter than normal and I think the longer someone goes without being mafia the more likely it is that they eventually will be.

But I’m not certain enough to vote for him.

honestly I'm not saying this to defend Shiny's alignment, I'm saying this because this actually almost happened to me in DGames/Villains

but maaaan would it suck if he was the Day 1 lynch two games straight

especially since wasn't he supposed to be on a break from mafia, but he really wanted to join this game, I think?

IDK I'd feel really bad if we voted Shiny out first thing again and he was townie, again

 

[Jojalole]

Oh man, guess I'm going to sleep without casting a vote. I really don't have any reads at the moment, the only one I see worth voting is Konnie for refusing to participate on the thread, but I'm unsure to cast the vote. Next phases are going to be hard for me to pop in here, but I'll try either way.

 

[BarDulL]

Hey guys, so for future reference, don't ask for your post to be deleted. Z25 wasn't trying to hide anything with his post deletions, but it's ok to double/triple post in DGames so long as it is not being abused (this has been a rule for a while; originally post-count was turned off in this room as a result but with the new board I guess post-counts got turned back on). Generally posts aren't ever deleted because sometimes they include information that could hurt or help scum.

This is because we do not allow post-editing during games and sometimes people forget to add information to their post. I'll probably bug Cyndane about it later.

I sometimes accidentally double post outside of games in the DGames social as a force of habit but yeah, if it's in a game, you're allowed to double post.

ohhhh that makes sense, I can understand that!

honestly it could have been anyone and I would've defended them there since I thought you were pushing for his character or some reveal and then voting him because you didn't get it

but looking back at it, yeah since I don't know Kon at all it does make sense why you thought I was being overly protective

Didn't you do this to Nabe in the previous game? @_@

Hm
@#HBC | Nabe

Care to explain your vote?

You asked me a random question barely related to the game and then voted for me. I’m just confused as to why?

Also you ignore all of my responses and then ask your friends to comment on me. So what’s your goal here?

I didn't see the Shish vote, sorry about that. I felt that your LoneKonWolf vote was kind of easy to make and felt mechanical...I will have to reread the context of the shish vote. Do you think LoneKonWolf could be a Townie just playing anti-town?

Also I agree with you regarding Nabe. Nabe seems pretty indirect with bringing attention to other slots but not willing to bloody his own hands.

 

[Pokechu]

Didn't you do this to Nabe in the previous game? @_@

yeah, nabe was on the hotseat and I was telling others to just kill me, his role is definitely better than mine, and it was

but the difference is that that game I was actually being awfully protective

this game, I just made a comment that Kon shouldn't be lynched for not revealing anything, so I didn't see how that could be awfully protective; why lynch someone just for not revealing when you asked them?

but I misread Shish's post so that's why I thought Shish was asking Kon to reveal something

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Did you Unvote Shiny before voting for Ura? I'm just asking because I think I forgot to put that in the rules. :x

Are we seriously going back to obligatory unvotes before voting someone else?

 

[praline]

honestly I'm not saying this to defend Shiny's alignment, I'm saying this because this actually almost happened to me in DGames/Villains

but maaaan would it suck if he was the Day 1 lynch two games straight

especially since wasn't he supposed to be on a break from mafia, but he really wanted to join this game, I think?

IDK I'd feel really bad if we voted Shiny out first thing again and he was townie, again

Hence why I didn’t put a vote on him.

 

[Deleted member]

Are we seriously going back to obligatory unvotes before voting someone else?

Those were supposed to bw a thing in my game as well but Natz counted a Bardull vote cahnge without it in a votecount so I just had to roll with it.
Trust me, unvoting makes it SO much easier for hosts to keep track of everything.

 

[praline]

Are we seriously going back to obligatory unvotes before voting someone else?

Says the person who’s never hosted a game.

 

[Z25]

Hey guys, so for future reference, don't ask for your post to be deleted. Z25 wasn't trying to hide anything with his post deletions, but it's ok to double/triple post in DGames so long as it is not being abused (this has been a rule for a while; originally post-count was turned off in this room as a result but with the new board I guess post-counts got turned back on). Generally posts aren't ever deleted because sometimes they include information that could hurt or help scum.

This is because we do not allow post-editing during games and sometimes people forget to add information to their post. I'll probably bug Cyndane about it later.

I sometimes accidentally double post outside of games in the DGames social as a force of habit but yeah, if it's in a game, you're allowed to double post.



Didn't you do this to Nabe in the previous game? @_@



I didn't see the Shish vote, sorry about that. I felt that your LoneKonWolf vote was kind of easy to make and felt mechanical...I will have to reread the context of the shish vote. Do you think LoneKonWolf could be a Townie just playing anti-town?

Also I agree with you regarding Nabe. Nabe seems pretty indirect with bringing attention to other slots but not willing to bloody his own hands.

My mistake. I know multiple posts are allowed but those two were broken quotes so I figured if the mods here allowed and were done than it should be deleted, but thanks for the further information.

As for lone. I’m not really sure. If he’s town I don’t get why he would choose to opt out of general discussions. I’m not looking for a claim just active participants in conversation. So he could be town but I’m not really positive on that atm

 

[BarDulL]

I have to go unfortunately, not sure exactly when deadline is but I retract my suspicion on Z25, I think he's fine for now. I don't think a mayor should be read just because they are a mayor, we should be trying to analyze the intent of their votes...should a claim ever arise. I otherwise like the slot as I voiced earlier (felt him vs. Lone was more TvT than SvT).

I think I unvoted earlier but just to be super sure:

Unvote

Opossum when is the deadline?

 

[praline]

I have to go unfortunately, not sure exactly when deadline is but I retract my suspicion on Z25, I think he's fine for now. I don't think a mayor should be read just because they are a mayor, we should be trying to analyze the intent of their votes...should a claim ever arise. I otherwise like the slot as I voiced earlier (felt him vs. Lone was more TvT than SvT).

I think I unvoted earlier but just to be super sure:

Unvote

Opossum when is the deadline?

I’m not Opo but it’s in just under 2 hours.

 

[Pokechu]

Pokechu Pokechu You sort of disappeared. Any thoughts? Who is le scummy scum?

ehh, not really to be honest

I'm hoping that with a casual chat with the host I can reread the game, form thoughts then but as of right now nothing's screaming out to me

I'll post my thoughts on everyone, but most are null

Stoopid - null, 99% of his posts are ****posts lol
praline - null, but I'm sad because she's usually a townread for me :'^(((((
Ura - town read, pretty in character with last game
Shiny - hasn't he only popped in just to vote no lynch lol
--- - null, but he was the first to claim, so more town than mafia
Shishœ - town read, he seems genuinely intent on making connections
BarduiL - inconsistent, his motives are hard to read, he starts the game voting --- for I assume RVS and he's been posting his thoughts on everything, but I feel like his push for Z25 is a bit out of place. IDK I think it might be the culture clash though since I understood Z25 just fine
Red Ryu - null
Golden - null
Z25 - null
#HBC | Nabe - null
lonekonwolf - null but more town than mafia, i feel like as a mafia he wouldn't even bother showing up just to say "i wont talk" lol
Jojalole - null
Wolfie557 - his claim makes me think he's town
Maven89 - null
Holder of the Heel - ewww :'^/

kicking a townie to the curb just because they haven't claimed a character is dumb :^(, outing yourself as a day killer/vig/bomb is silly as he can just be killed N1, and unless he dies along with his target, IIRC he said he doesn't, then he isn't even a confirmed townie

just for the sake of not having a potential threat to the town, if you forced me to vote it'd be for him, a player who can kill once every phase is BONKERS

 

[praline]

ehh, not really to be honest

I'm hoping that with a casual chat with the host I can reread the game, form thoughts then but as of right now nothing's screaming out to me

I'll post my thoughts on everyone, but most are null

Stoopid - null, 99% of his posts are ****posts lol
praline - null, but I'm sad because she's usually a townread for me :'^(((((
Ura - town read, pretty in character with last game
Shiny - hasn't he only popped in just to vote no lynch lol
--- - null, but he was the first to claim, so more town than mafia
Shishœ - town read, he seems genuinely intent on making connections
BarduiL - inconsistent, his motives are hard to read, he starts the game voting --- for I assume RVS and he's been posting his thoughts on everything, but I feel like his push for Z25 is a bit out of place. IDK I think it might be the culture clash though since I understood Z25 just fine
Red Ryu - null
Golden - null
Z25 - null
#HBC | Nabe - null
lonekonwolf - null but more town than mafia, i feel like as a mafia he wouldn't even bother showing up just to say "i wont talk" lol
Jojalole - null
Wolfie557 - his claim makes me think he's town
Maven89 - null
Holder of the Heel - ewww :'^/

kicking a townie to the curb just because they haven't claimed a character is dumb :^(, outing yourself as a day killer/vig/bomb is silly as he can just be killed N1, and unless he dies along with his target, IIRC he said he doesn't, then he isn't even a confirmed townie

just for the sake of not having a potential threat to the town, if you forced me to vote it'd be for him, a player who can kill once every phase is BONKERS

I am town. I don’t like saying anything day 1 cause I (understandably) distrust everyone.

 

[Aurane]

Vote: Fire Emblem

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

99% of his posts are ****posts lol

Nothing's changed, I see :V

 

[Pokechu]

I am town. I don’t like saying anything day 1 cause I (understandably) distrust everyone.

oh yeah, this isn't out of character

what's getting me is that I really thought you were putting the moves on me like you said you did DBZ mafia just to get on my good side LOL

like, you start this game asking how you send your support, and that you know who you want to support

so I'm thinking that based on our discussion before the game, that's hinting at me

then you mention that you have a bias towards someone, and I think that's another move for me

so that's when I went in and asked for you to explain

and you said that it's a negative bias, but then that'd be a bias against them I think

I'm 99% looking into it too much but since it happened in a prior game, you trying to get my attention, it makes you null for me this game.

Although I will say that if I had to place you as either town or mafia, it'd be town definitely, since you were the first to reveal you had a villain character, and other people revealed that they did as well. It's just my paranoia that's putting you in null

 

[praline]

oh yeah, this isn't out of character

what's getting me is that I really thought you were putting the moves on me like you said you did DBZ mafia just to get on my good side LOL

like, you start this game asking how you send your support, and that you know who you want to support

so I'm thinking that based on our discussion before the game, that's hinting at me

then you mention that you have a bias towards someone, and I think that's another move for me

so that's when I went in and asked for you to explain

and you said that it's a negative bias, but then that'd be a bias against them I think

I'm 99% looking into it too much but since it happened in a prior game, you trying to get my attention, it makes you null for me this game.

Although I will say that if I had to place you as either town or mafia, it'd be town definitely, since you were the first to reveal you had a villain character, and other people revealed that they did as well. It's just my paranoia that's putting you in null

Well I told the person directly who I want to support with yesterday, also since nobody even attempted to guess my negative bias is towards Uni.

 

[praline]

I really thought it being Uni would have been obvious... guess not *shrug*

 

[Pokechu]

Well I told the person directly who I want to support with yesterday, also since nobody even attempted to guess my negative bias is towards Uni.

awww

Uni's cool though!

@ Uni let's jump her!!!!



I'm kind of shocked though you weren't putting the moves on me this game

In hindsight, it was a really clever idea for you to do that DBZ mafia

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

M-Me?

 

[Pokechu]

dang that post has a lot of emoticons

i need to watch it

 

[praline]

awww

Uni's cool though!

@ Uni let's jump her!!!!



I'm kind of shocked though you weren't putting the moves on me this game

In hindsight, it was a really clever idea for you to do that DBZ mafia

Uni murdered me and then the one chance I had to murder him he gets killed in the day phase before the first night I could kill...

He’s been mafia in every game where I’ve been town and has alluded me everytime. Suffice to say this isn’t going anywhere until I get a game where I can kill him directly.

 

[Ura]

My god this site is lagging like hell. Literally just quoting someone takes forever to do.

Vote: Fire Emblem

I think we found the Advance Wars user guys.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Uni murdered me and then the one chance I had to murder him he gets killed in the day phase before the first night I could kill...

He’s been mafia in every game where I’ve been town and has alluded me everytime. Suffice to say this isn’t going anywhere until I get a game where I can kill him directly.

You can't kill me because you wuv me :3

 

[praline]

You can't kill me because you wuv me :3

One of these games I’m gonna love you to death

 

[BarDulL]

Pokechu I'm afraid to ask why you think I'm "inconsistent" on account of being potentially faced with another giant wall.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

One of these games I’m gonna love you to death

Would be a good way to go, honestly.

 

[praline]

Would be a good way to go, honestly.

 

[Natz~]

Those were supposed to bw a thing in my game as well but Natz counted a Bardull vote cahnge without it in a votecount so I just had to roll with it.
Trust me, unvoting makes it SO much easier for hosts to keep track of everything.

whoops

sorry :V

 

[Aurane]

Oh ****, Dr. Gaster is a moderator here.

That's like the best thing ever.

 

[Z25]

Vote: Fire Emblem

Is this a Choose your legends?

 

[Opossum]

Just a little over an hour remains. Make sure to get any last votes in.

 

[Aurane]

Alright I'll let you all get back to it.

*dies*

 

[Ura]

Vote: No Lynch

Quite frankly, any "solid read" on anyone is nothing but conjecture really. I mean Konnie isn't doing himself much favors refusing saying anything and I'm weary of some users here but lynching at this point is counterproductive.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Vote: No Lynch