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Chaosblade77

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That fans of Micaiah push off any character besides Micaiah that has a shot at being in Brawl (besides Marth of course).

- ChronoBound
She was also the one saying she wanted to see like 5 FE characters in the game. It totally defeats your logic.

And now you are adding in Marth at least, so your point is partially right at least. Just because you dislike Micaiah does not mean everyone else should.
 

Rakath

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That fans of Micaiah push off any character besides Micaiah that has a shot at being in Brawl (besides Marth of course).

- ChronoBound
Thanks for proving your hate of Micaiah blinds you to the fact you're wrong.

I'm a fan of Micaiah, she has a strong shot in Brawl. And for non-swords she's got the highest shot. However, if I were to choose an order of who I want in Brawl, it'd look like this (Marth not included as Marth is pretty much a shoe in):

Mia, however I know that all she has is popularity and no actual game importance
Hector if it wasn't for Ike pretty much overshadowing him in every aspect
Lyndis if it wasn't for being a Trophy
Mist
Elincia
Black Knight if it wasn't for Ike overshadowing him in every aspect
Micaiah or Sanaki (Face it, either or between them)
Sigurd or any of the Japanese only Lords that aren't Marth
Sheeda or any other Romantic interest to other FE characters

However most of these characters don't actually have a shot to get into the game due to their lack of importance or lack of timely inclusion. So I rest my hopes on those with a shot.

You fail to recognise this because I do not rest any hopes on SIGURD OR ROY who you want in so much.
 

ChronoBound

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Thanks for proving your hate of Micaiah blinds you to the fact you're wrong.

I'm a fan of Micaiah, she has a strong shot in Brawl. And for non-swords she's got the highest shot. However, if I were to choose an order of who I want in Brawl, it'd look like this (Marth not included as Marth is pretty much a shoe in):

Mia, however I know that all she has is popularity and no actual game importance
Hector if it wasn't for Ike pretty much overshadowing him in every aspect
Lyndis if it wasn't for being a Trophy
Mist
Elincia
Black Knight if it wasn't for Ike overshadowing him in every aspect
Micaiah or Sanaki (Face it, either or between them)
Sigurd or any of the Japanese only Lords that aren't Marth
Sheeda or any other Romantic interest to other FE characters

However most of these characters don't actually have a shot to get into the game due to their lack of importance or lack of timely inclusion. So I rest my hopes on those with a shot.

You fail to recognise this because I do not rest any hopes on SIGURD OR ROY who you want in so much.

You do realize that Sigurd is featured in more Fire Emblem merchandise than any other character right? Also, you do realize that FE4 is the most beloved Fire Emblem by both Japanese Fire Emblem fans and non-Japanese hardcore Fire Emblem fans.
 

y3nia659

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Sakurai did say he wanted more females after all, gives a bonus to Micaiah and any other girl lord or important female and Ike wears a Sirgurd costume which might decrease his chances
 

Chaosblade77

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Mia, however I know that all she has is popularity and no actual game importance
Hector if it wasn't for Ike pretty much overshadowing him in every aspect
Lyndis if it wasn't for being a Trophy
Mist
Elincia
Black Knight if it wasn't for Ike overshadowing him in every aspect
Micaiah or Sanaki (Face it, either or between them)
Sigurd or any of the Japanese only Lords that aren't Marth
Sheeda or any other Romantic interest to other FE characters
I agree with your list.

Mia is totally awesome, and I would love to see her in Brawl.

Hector would be a very unique character, I could easily see him in. I wasn't a huge fan of him in game though for some reason, I guess it was just his attack style. He was uber though.

Lyn >>>>> All. I wanted to see her in more than any other FE character, I was so disappointed when she got AT...

Not a huge Mist fan. She has backstory and some importance at least. No idea on a moveset.

Elincia >>> Most. Would like to see her in over most of the more popular characters, but it wouldn't happen...

Never was a fan of the Black Knight for Brawl... I just liked him because he was FE. I just couldn't see him as playable.

I prefer Micaiah to Sanaki... but that is just personal opinion. Either would be awesome.

Hahaha! I hope you implied Alm was not in that Japanese FE lord list.

Not sure about the last group... just because of some of the potential characters it would put up. For example, Ninian, Sothe, etc.

I would also love to see Nephenee in, but there is no chance at that.
 

ChronoBound

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Sakurai did say he wanted more females after all, gives a bonus to Micaiah and any other girl lord or important female and Ike wears a Sirgurd costume which might decrease his chances
Krystal is very likely going to get in. Midna also has high chances. What makes you think that Sakurai wants to make every other newcomer a female character?
 

Rakath

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You do realize that Sigurd is featured in more Fire Emblem merchandise than any other character right? Also, you do realize that FE4 is the most beloved Fire Emblem by both Japanese Fire Emblem fans and non-Japanese hardcore Fire Emblem fans.
That is your problem 'hardcore Fire Emblem fans' This game isn't a Fire Emblem game, it isn't designed to appease the 'hardcore Fire Emblem fans' its designed to give EVERYONE SOMETHING. So they will not cover all the FE universes, nor will they have an obscene number of Fire Emblem characters. If Sigurd were to be in Brawl, he'd of been in Melee instead of Marth. Right now if Sigurd has any shot of being in Brawl, it is by TAKING MARTH'S PLACE.

The non-'hardcore Fire Emblem fans' will look at Marth, Ike, and Sigurd and wonder what makes them all different? In the same way that if Wario was using his classic costume the question would be what makes the 3 overall wearing plumbers with mustaches different, if somehow they had never played a Mario game.

Fire Emblem needs reps showing the variety of character design, not a variety of world settings. Give us a Swordmaster, a Berserker, or a Magic user before giving us 3 Sword weilding blue haired lords that appear to be siblings separated at birth.
 

y3nia659

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nothing but it might give them heads up ;)

I agree with you that Micaiah isn't the only one with a chance left

every other lord besides Lyn and Ike are still possible...idk is non-lords can get it but if they can be playable Im counting on Mist because she has access to the "Fire Emblem" or popular characters too like Ayra, Mia, etc
 

Chaosblade77

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That is your problem 'hardcore Fire Emblem fans' This game isn't a Fire Emblem game, it isn't designed to appease the 'hardcore Fire Emblem fans' its designed to give EVERYONE SOMETHING. So they will not cover all the FE universes, nor will they have an obscene number of Fire Emblem characters. If Sigurd were to be in Brawl, he'd of been in Melee instead of Marth. Right now if Sigurd has any shot of being in Brawl, it is by TAKING MARTH'S PLACE.

The non-'hardcore Fire Emblem fans' will look at Marth, Ike, and Sigurd and wonder what makes them all different? In the same way that if Wario was using his classic costume the question would be what makes the 3 overall wearing plumbers with mustaches different, if somehow they had never played a Mario game.

Fire Emblem needs reps showing the variety of character design, not a variety of world settings. Give us a Swordmaster, a Berserker, or a Magic user before giving us 3 Sword weilding blue haired lords that appear to be siblings separated at birth.
I have explained that to him three or four times now. Maybe it will work this time.
 

ChronoBound

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Fire Emblem needs reps showing the variety of character design, not a variety of world settings. Give us a Swordmaster, a Berserker, or a Magic user before giving us 3 Sword weilding blue haired lords that appear to be siblings separated at birth.
Leaf is all three in one.
 

Chaosblade77

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*facepalm*

No it is you guys at the Micaiah topic who don't seem to be getting it.
Did you not see where I totally disproved your point a few posts up? And please, tell me how many posts I have in the Micaiah topic? I remember one, although it was a reply to a question and might have been in the Marth topic.

Edit: Nope, I just checked. Of my 412 posts, not a single one has been in the Micaiah topic. I did see you trolling around in there though.
 

ChronoBound

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If you're such a 'hardcore Fire Emblem fan' you should know that a Mages stats, a Berserker's Stats, and a Swordmaster's Stats are in COMPLETELY different areas.
Um, I was talking about in terms of gameplay. Leaf would be the sword, axe, lance, bow, magic, and Jugdral lord that most real Fire Emblem fans would want. Unfortunately, since most people have not played his game, his chances of getting in are low. But to say that he would be less unique than Micaiah (or any other lord for that matter), is just fanboyish.
 

Chaosblade77

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Um, I was talking about in terms of gameplay. Leaf would be the sword, axe, lance, bow, magic, and Jugdral lord that most real Fire Emblem fans would want. Unfortunately, since most people have not played his game, his chances of getting in are low. But to say that he would be less unique than Micaiah (or any other lord for that matter), is just fanboyish.
Who said he would be less unique? You are putting words in other peoples mouths now.

It seems like you are creating your own problems by saying "Micaiah supporters do this" just because you do not want to see her in Brawl. You put words in other peoples mouths and say what you think other people think, even when it's completely untrue, and then go on believing what you said even though no one shows the signs.
 

ChronoBound

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Who said he would be less unique? You are putting words in other peoples mouths now.
People keep citing that Micaiah's uniqueness is why she would get preference over Sigurd, Roy, or Eliwood. People also keep citing her popularity as why she would get in over Leaf. If Sigurd and Roy outclass her in popularity, and Leaf outclasses her in moveset potential, why is it that they say that she is the only probable contender for a third Fire Emblem character, instead of seriously giving these characters their due?
 

Chaosblade77

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People keep citing that Micaiah's uniqueness is why she would get preference over Sigurd, Roy, or Eliwood.
Because it's true. They are sword users which Brawl has plenty of. A real magic user, not like Mewtwo or Zelda, would be very unique.

People also keep citing her popularity as why she would get in over Leaf.
This is a completely different argument. Sigurd, Roy, and Eliwood all lack the uniqueness, Leaf lacks the popularity. I don't see how this relates to the previous line.

If Sigurd and Roy outclass her in popularity, and Leaf outclasses her in moveset potential, why is it that they say that she is the only probable contender for a third Fire Emblem character, instead of seriously giving these characters their due?
What do you not understand about this, my god, you are even reading what we post! Did you completely miss where the people who are "Micaiah fanboys" were explaining other characters they would like to see in Brawl, but knew they had no chance? Maybe THAT is the difference. We know that the characters that we REALLY want to see will not get in. I would much rather see Mia, Nephenee, or Elincia in any day, over Micaiah, but do they stand a chance? No. Just like Roy and Eliwood.
 

Rakath

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Um, I was talking about in terms of gameplay. Leaf would be the sword, axe, lance, bow, magic, and Jugdral lord that most real Fire Emblem fans would want. Unfortunately, since most people have not played his game, his chances of getting in are low. But to say that he would be less unique than Micaiah (or any other lord for that matter), is just fanboyish.
Having him in with a full set of weapons to use from would be interesting. However, Leaf on an appearance standpoint is... okay, he's got red hair instead of blue. So he won't look like Marth/Sigurd/Ike's other missing brother. He would probably be confused for Roy a few times...

However, in terms of gameplay, I would doubt they'd make his Axe fighting the same as a Berserker, his Sword that of a Swordmaster, and his Magic that of a... well, okay, Magic users aren't the easiest to make unique from one another, but the first two points stand. Even if Leaf uses a sword, it should be more along the lines of Marth or Roy's style than a Swordmaster's "Graceful whirlwind of singing steel", and I know his axemanship should be more attuned to a Warrior or Hector than an overpowering vision of pure muscle than the various Berserkers are. Which was my point against your phrasing of your statement beforehand.

Leaf may be more unique than Micaiah, but he isn't as timely. Which was the other part of this balancing act I keep showing to you, but you keep ignoring as I'm just 'a Micaiah fanboy'.

Edit: Yes, the Graceful Whirlwind line is totally from FE9.
 

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People keep citing that Micaiah's uniqueness is why she would get preference over Sigurd, Roy, or Eliwood. People also keep citing her popularity as why she would get in over Leaf. If Sigurd and Roy outclass her in popularity, and Leaf outclasses her in moveset potential, why is it that they say that she is the only probable contender for a third Fire Emblem character, instead of seriously giving these characters their due?
Who has said that Micaiah is the only probable contender for a third Fire Emblem character? I haven't seen a single person say those exact words. You just misinterpret responses and twist them into ways they weren't meant to me intended. Your arguing just for the sake of arguing. I mean please do everyone a favor and make your own I hate Micaiah message board and talk to other people who share you ideas there.

Omg you like Micaiah, I hate you and your nothing but a Micaiah fanboy regardless if you stated that you think other Fire Emblem character have a chance as well. How can you hate a character that much?

-Knight
 

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Hector FTW!

Since FE7 is my favourite FE game I want a bunch of characters from it <_<

Hector
Lyn (I know she's an AT, but a man can dream :( )
Eliwood (Looks like roy, plays like marth plz)
Jaffar (:D)
 

ChronoBound

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Omg you like Micaiah, I hate you and your nothing but a Micaiah fanboy regardless if you stated that you think other Fire Emblem character have a chance as well. How can you hate a character that much?

-Knight


I don't hate Micaiah, I even wrote that in an earlier message. I also I did not say that Micaiah was unlikely, I even said she was on the same plane as Sigurd, Roy, and Eliwood. However, I said that since we do not know what Sakurai would want, we cannot definitively say that XXXX character will be his choice for a third-character for Fire Emblem, or even say tha there will be a third Fire Emblem character. Each of these characters has their own disadvantages, and thus does not have leg up over the other one. Now do you see where I am coming from.
 

Ephraim

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I would like their to be a FE characters that aren't lords, and I believe Soren or Mia are the best choices.
 

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Marth's a good choice, as he'll be in Fire Emblem DS too. But if for some absurd reason he isn't kept in Brawl, it'd have to be either Eliwood (FE7) or Eirika (FE8) to replace him. Both being rapier users, they'd be quick, with the whole tipper thing, which means that in statistics, they'd be similar to Marth.
 

NukeA6

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I would like their to be a FE characters that aren't lords, and I believe Soren or Mia are the best choices.
You might as well say you want Micaiah.

Soren and Mia? I think there's also Ayra, Sheeda and other popular non-lords
And Levin and Sothe.

Marth's a good choice, as he'll be in Fire Emblem DS too. But if for some absurd reason he isn't kept in Brawl, it'd have to be either Eliwood (FE7) or Eirika (FE8) to replace him. Both being rapier users, they'd be quick, with the whole tipper thing, which means that in statistics, they'd be similar to Marth.
They will NEVER replace the original lord of Fire Emblem. They are just too unpopular. If there's anybody that can replace Marth, they are Sigurd and Celice.
 

Hong

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You might as well say you want Micaiah.
While Micaiah doesn't have the title of "Lord", she is still considered one. The term Lord in general refers to the main character of a Fire Emblem series who liberates their country/world, usually resulting in them or someone they assisted in taking the crown. When anyone refers to "Lords" in the series, that's kind of the general description.

It's kind of like how starter prepromotes are referred to as Jeigans despite the fact the actual Jeigan has only had two appearances.

And I agree. Sigurd and Celice are the only possible reasons for Marth to not make his return.
 

NukeA6

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Jaffar was cool too
wasnt he the only character 2 different FE worlds?
There's Narga who was the most powerful light spell in FE4 and then a main villain in FE7.

I've only heard Jaffar in one FE game though.
 

Chaosblade77

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There's Narga who was the most powerful light spell in FE4 and then a main villain in FE7.

I've only heard Jaffar in one FE game though.
In the English translation he was Nergal in FE7 I believe.

Excluding Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn, since basically all of the characters show up in both games....

Hector (although it is only briefly) and Marcus are in both FE 6 and 7. Eliwood is also mentioned in 7 and seen a few times, but not playable. Roy is also seen once, as a young child at the very end of 7, but he is not part of the story or anything so I don't count that as two appearances.

Marth appeared in two, soon to be three games, and I believe a few characters from his game did as well, although I am not sure exactly which ones...

I think FE 4 and 5 had some character overlaps but I don't know who.

I guess it should be noted that I have only REALLY played the English FE games, and like two chapters of Japanese FE6.
 

Hong

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In the English translation he was Nergal in FE7 I believe.

Excluding Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn, since basically all of the characters show up in both games....

Hector (although it is only briefly) and Marcus are in both FE 6 and 7. Eliwood is also mentioned in 7 and seen a few times, but not playable.
Eliwood was the main character of 7 silly. I think you mean 6, when he was mentioned as Roy's ill father. :p Unless you're mixed up by the fact FE7 is a prequel to 6, and not a sequel.
 

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In the English translation he was Nergal in FE7 I believe.

Excluding Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn, since basically all of the characters show up in both games....

Hector (although it is only briefly) and Marcus are in both FE 6 and 7. Eliwood is also mentioned in 7 and seen a few times, but not playable. Roy is also seen once, as a young child at the very end of 7, but he is not part of the story or anything so I don't count that as two appearances.

Marth appeared in two, soon to be three games, and I believe a few characters from his game did as well, although I am not sure exactly which ones...

I think FE 4 and 5 had some character overlaps but I don't know who.

I guess it should be noted that I have only REALLY played the English FE games, and like two chapters of Japanese FE6.
I was talking about characters that appear in 2 different FE worlds not games.
Which im pretty sure is only Anna and Jaffar
 

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Lyn has been confirmed in Brawl, Masterchief!

Unfortunately, she has been confirmed as an assist trophy, not as a playable character. You may see her from time to time, but not control her. The official confirmation as an AT is found here.
 

Masterchief 4 brawl

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Lyn has been confirmed in Brawl, Masterchief!

Unfortunately, she has been confirmed as an assist trophy, not as a playable character. You may see her from time to time, but not control her. The official confirmation as an AT is found here.
Oh. :urg: Ike for assist trophy!
 
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