Fire Emblem 7 Mafia Poisoned Mutton Edition - Mafia Wins.

[LoneKonWolf]

Ok, Lonnie

. . . Ok that was actually pretty funny.

 

[Pokechu]

Shish Teardown Wall

You guys are overanalyzing my character in a game where flavor is meaningless, even if it were a fakeclaim, DG gives out safeclaims so analyzing it would be pointless.

I'm not analyzing your character, I'm analyzing your actions. If you're a scum!Louise it'd make perfect sense to try and find Pent.

Pokechu going after me is incharacter enough, especially him overanakyzing my actions.

Oh great. So I point out odd, sketch behavior from you, and you only pass it off as "oh, that's incharacter" and "he's just overanalyzing me"

No, I'm not overanalyzing anything. I just think you're a mess. Way to paint it as though I'm the problem.

I don't like Uni, he's acting exactly like in Bad Idea and his reactions to my posts have been completely neutral and unattached. It feels too much like him trying to get on my good side. Back in FEH Mafia 2, he got pissed at both me and Z25 simply for asking for character claims.

I don't like Shish, he was way too happy to jab Uni when I started to and his reaction to what I've pointed out against him was completely neutral and unattached. It feels too much like him trying to deflect suspicion, trying to sweep it under the rug.

Back in FEH Mafia 2, Uni was the doctor. And because Tri publicly made the connection Wrys = Doctor it led to his death. Don't try and frame things so it fits your argument.

Uni is being (uncharacteristically) extremely calm and polite, while I'm the one trying to burn him.

Also, despite this coming up as a theorical gambit in almost every game, in all of NZ history we have NEVER once had a case of Mafia faking a TvT infighting

Uni is doing what he can with his limited time, the longer phases being the only reason why he has elected to play. You on the other hand are over analyzing his posts and trying to catch him in a trap when Uni hasn't slipped in the first place.

This could be the first fake TvT but I'll choose to believe Uni is town

Your point? I asked for a character claim back then, you reacted negatively and angrily.
I vote for you and call you scum, you react neutraly and politely.
This isn't about me, it's about you.
It's about your behaviour, as Town, is to react with much more emotion for much less. What you're doing is trying to not take a side, which is exactly what scum do. For all you know, I could be a Mafioso trying to push a mislynch on you yet your reactions imply you didn't consider that possibility when past games have proven that Town!Uni has considered it.

His point was that he had a character claim that would have led to his death. In this game, there's less reason to be stingy because 99% of us are vanilla.

This isn't about Uni, this is about you and your unneeded aggressive behavior and tunneling of Uni when he has done nothing wrong. It's about your behavior, as Town, to not fly off the handle. What you're doing is trying to paint Uni as out of character but with insufficient evidence. For all you know, Uni could genuinely be busy and thus lack the time to really invest himself in the game and be more in-character with his previous plays.

I don't see what is your point? I never said this situation is just like before nor am I comparing them.

And the only reason I did the "guess my role" is because: a)flavor is pointless so it doesn't really matter if people know my character and b)it's just a fun pointless thing to do im a Day that starts off slowly

Uh. Yes, you did. What other reason is there to state "Back in FEH 2, Uni got mad that I asked for his character" other than to try and point out a discrepancy between his play then and his play now?

Also, you state that "flavor is pointless", yet the first thing you did when you got my character out of me was slap a vote on me. Niiiiiiice.

There was no reason for you to read me or Spak as such, for you to read me as Town, you had to read Spak as scum and that doesn't make any sense when all your evidence is him voting for me and him believing me to be a Mafia Jailkeeper. I tag you in, ask for your reads and the first thing you do is "yeah I think you're Town and I think the guy who voted for you isn't."

Uni choosing to include you and Spak in his reads makes sense, considering how when he posted those reads there was less than two pages of the game to go off of. I personally don't think Spak slipped but Uni's reasoning that he immediately tried to insinuate you as mafia instead of trying to question, hey, why'd you act like you're a protective role, I can see where he's going with that.

Taking after my footsteps, awn, i'm so proud

That's from Capcom mafia?

Since then we've had Villains, Gorf, Mario, Fate 2, FEH 2, Bad Idea, and this mafia. I don't see how this quote relates to Uni at all, considering how you had an emotional response ("my trust was misplaced! :/") compared to Uni just saying "Your actions now make me think of you as scum, you seem too interested in trying to lynch me."

If anything, this is just drawing attention to yourself. I have to agree with Uni, pulling a quote from five, six, games ago and trying to use it to frame Uni is desperate.

It's not about role fishing or whatever, it's your reaction that I'm interested in. Don't try to misrepresent my point.

His reaction that he and I have already perfectly explained?

Ah yes, I should call it "lack of a reaction"

Again. Because characters don't matter this game.

Then why did you get so emotional back im FEH 2?

Again. Characters mattered then, and he had already dodged a bullet by staying quiet when Z mentioned Wrys.

What? You're telling me I need to wait for a mislynch before I can get suspicious of you? I'm sorry, I wasn't aware you had Day 1 suspicion-immunity.

That's.... not at all what he's saying lol. He's saying that of course he may respond odd, this hasn't happened to him since his first game ever. Again, way to paint someone else as the problem.

You've been quite active now that I started pointing my suspicions on you though.

*ignoring the fact that Uni has stated before the game even started that he would be busy IRL*

Yes, because scumslips are intentional.

I didn't catch a scumslip from Uni.

 

[Pokechu]

In conclusion, Shish is using desperate methods to lash out on Uni and has contradicted himself numerous times in his postings. Shish blatantly lacks self-awareness and is ignoring any suspicion towards him but is still pointing fingers at other people. His argument relies on invalid evidence and he is continuing to make it so that others are the problem, not him. This is not a good townie mindset, and with all of the errors he has made, I am inclined to think that he is our prime Day 1 lynch.

Vote: Shishoe

 

[Ura]

Ura when you said "choreographed" you seemed to be implying that both Shish and Uni had planned this in advance. Does that mean you think both are scum?

Pretty much dude.

Although like I said, it' faulty reasoning

 

[Ura]

Dammit mobile made me reply early. My bad.

I wanted to add that it is possible for Mafia members to make it look like they're at odds with each other. Even though it might not be the case here.

 

[Spak]

How can you interpret ">:^(" as anything other than jokingly?

I don't know you guys' use of emoticons yet, so bear with me as I try to figure out what is serious and what isn't lol.

Have they got any reasoning behind their votes, or are they just throwing names out at random?

At least for me, it was the latter. RVS is usually when people throw around votes to see if they can bait anyone out or draw a reaction (which could be useful for reading people, as it seemed to have been with my vote on Shish).

for you to read me as Town, you had to read Spak as scum

Whoa whoa whoa, who said that by necessity one of us is scum? I think you're the scummiest out of everyone so far this game, but I'm far from saying there isn't a possibility we're not both town.

I will delegate my vote to you as is traditional of the #HBC way. Soryy Spak Spak , no hard feelings.

Unvote
Vote: Spak

Fair enough, just use connections I've made after my flip :D

 

[BarDulL]

Dammit mobile made me reply early. My bad.

I wanted to add that it is possible for Mafia members to make it look like they're at odds with each other. Even though it might not be the case here.

Which one between Uni and Shish do you prefer?

@Shishœ assume both you and Uni are Town. Who is the most suspicious to you?

 

[Ura]

Which one between Uni and Shish do you prefer?

@Shishœ assume both you and Uni are Town. Who is the most suspicious to you?

Well if I had to make a guess now, I would say Shish given how he's been at Uni's throat.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

*ignoring the fact that Uni has stated before the game even started that he would be busy IRL*

And the fact that I wanted to take a break from mafia for this very reason. Something I've actually said in the queue thread shortly after Bad Idea Mafia.

I already said it, but if day phases weren't 72 hours long, I wouldn't even be there.

Trying to use activity as evidence is definitely grasping at straws when I've made it clear days before this game even began that I'm getting concerned over how active I'd be in the future.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

What's next, Shish? My job is a lie?

 

[Deleted member]

. . . Ok that was actually pretty funny.

I'm not analyzing your character, I'm analyzing your actions. If you're a scum!Louise it'd make perfect sense to try and find Pent.

Oh great. So I point out odd, sketch behavior from you, and you only pass it off as "oh, that's incharacter" and "he's just overanalyzing me"

No, I'm not overanalyzing anything. I just think you're a mess. Way to paint it as though I'm the problem.

I don't like Shish, he was way too happy to jab Uni when I started to and his reaction to what I've pointed out against him was completely neutral and unattached. It feels too much like him trying to deflect suspicion, trying to sweep it under the rug.

Back in FEH Mafia 2, Uni was the doctor. And because Tri publicly made the connection Wrys = Doctor it led to his death. Don't try and frame things so it fits your argument.

Uni is doing what he can with his limited time, the longer phases being the only reason why he has elected to play. You on the other hand are over analyzing his posts and trying to catch him in a trap when Uni hasn't slipped in the first place.

This could be the first fake TvT but I'll choose to believe Uni is town

His point was that he had a character claim that would have led to his death. In this game, there's less reason to be stingy because 99% of us are vanilla.

This isn't about Uni, this is about you and your unneeded aggressive behavior and tunneling of Uni when he has done nothing wrong. It's about your behavior, as Town, to not fly off the handle. What you're doing is trying to paint Uni as out of character but with insufficient evidence. For all you know, Uni could genuinely be busy and thus lack the time to really invest himself in the game and be more in-character with his previous plays.

Uh. Yes, you did. What other reason is there to state "Back in FEH 2, Uni got mad that I asked for his character" other than to try and point out a discrepancy between his play then and his play now?

Also, you state that "flavor is pointless", yet the first thing you did when you got my character out of me was slap a vote on me. Niiiiiiice.

Uni choosing to include you and Spak in his reads makes sense, considering how when he posted those reads there was less than two pages of the game to go off of. I personally don't think Spak slipped but Uni's reasoning that he immediately tried to insinuate you as mafia instead of trying to question, hey, why'd you act like you're a protective role, I can see where he's going with that.

That's from Capcom mafia?

Since then we've had Villains, Gorf, Mario, Fate 2, FEH 2, Bad Idea, and this mafia. I don't see how this quote relates to Uni at all, considering how you had an emotional response ("my trust was misplaced! :/") compared to Uni just saying "Your actions now make me think of you as scum, you seem too interested in trying to lynch me."

If anything, this is just drawing attention to yourself. I have to agree with Uni, pulling a quote from five, six, games ago and trying to use it to frame Uni is desperate.

His reaction that he and I have already perfectly explained?

Again. Because characters don't matter this game.

Again. Characters mattered then, and he had already dodged a bullet by staying quiet when Z mentioned Wrys.

That's.... not at all what he's saying lol. He's saying that of course he may respond odd, this hasn't happened to him since his first game ever. Again, way to paint someone else as the problem.

*ignoring the fact that Uni has stated before the game even started that he would be busy IRL*

I didn't catch a scumslip from Uni.

In conclusion, Shish is using desperate methods to lash out on Uni and has contradicted himself numerous times in his postings. Shish blatantly lacks self-awareness and is ignoring any suspicion towards him but is still pointing fingers at other people. His argument relies on invalid evidence and he is continuing to make it so that others are the problem, not him. This is not a good townie mindset, and with all of the errors he has made, I am inclined to think that he is our prime Day 1 lynch.

Vote: Shishoe

Whoa whoa whoa, who said that by necessity one of us is scum? I think you're the scummiest out of everyone so far this game, but I'm far from saying there isn't a possibility we're not both town.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Did you mean to reply to these quotes?

 

[Deleted member]

God ****ingdamnit smashboards
I'll make a new post later, I accidentallly hit reply

 

[Deleted member]

. . . Ok that was actually pretty funny.

I would have called you Wolfie but that's already taken

I'm not analyzing your character, I'm analyzing your actions. If you're a scum!Louise it'd make perfect sense to try and find Pent.

I wasn't talking about you on that post lol.
Also, why would scum!Louise even need to find Pent?

Oh great. So I point out odd, sketch behavior from you, and you only pass it off as "oh, that's incharacter" and "he's just overanalyzing me"

No, I'm not overanalyzing anything. I just think you're a mess. Way to paint it as though I'm the problem.

>Not overanalyzing
>Makes this huge ass post om Day 1
You're literally doing what I said you would lol

I don't like Shish, he was way too happy to jab Uni when I started to and his reaction to what I've pointed out against him was completely neutral and unattached. It feels too much like him trying to deflect suspicion, trying to sweep it under the rug.

Back in FEH Mafia 2, Uni was the doctor. And because Tri publicly made the connection Wrys = Doctor it led to his death. Don't try and frame things so it fits your argument.

1-Why you copying my post format bruh, that's rude!
2-What are you talking about? I voted Uni AFTER he replied to MY post, this has nothing to do with you.
3-You keep thinking I'm trying to compare both situations(many more times still) but I'm not. I'm comparing Town!Uni's reaction with his current one and how they don't match up but Mafia!Uni's reaction does match up with this one.

Uni is doing what he can with his limited time, the longer phases being the only reason why he has elected to play. You on the other hand are over analyzing his posts and trying to catch him in a trap when Uni hasn't slipped in the first place.

This could be the first fake TvT but I'll choose to believe Uni is town

I don't see how reading his reactions is overanalyzing yet making a huge wall of text isn't. I'm doing what I'm supposed to do in this game.

His point was that he had a character claim that would have led to his death. In this game, there's less reason to be stingy because 99% of us are vanilla.

This isn't about Uni, this is about you and your unneeded aggressive behavior and tunneling of Uni when he has done nothing wrong. It's about your behavior, as Town, to not fly off the handle. What you're doing is trying to paint Uni as out of character but with insufficient evidence. For all you know, Uni could genuinely be busy and thus lack the time to really invest himself in the game and be more in-character with his previous plays.

Again, not my point. Please, read what I'm saying.

Uh. Yes, you did. What other reason is there to state "Back in FEH 2, Uni got mad that I asked for his character" other than to try and point out a discrepancy between his play then and his play now?

Also, you state that "flavor is pointless", yet the first thing you did when you got my character out of me was slap a vote on me. Niiiiiiice.

Because his reactions dom't match how hard is it to get this part?

It's not about flavor, it's about the odds of you actually being the same character im different games on top of you claiming Vanilla

Uni choosing to include you and Spak in his reads makes sense, considering how when he posted those reads there was less than two pages of the game to go off of. I personally don't think Spak slipped but Uni's reasoning that he immediately tried to insinuate you as mafia instead of trying to question, hey, why'd you act like you're a protective role, I can see where he's going with that.

That's not what I was talking about, Uni tried to get on my good side the moment he got a chance to. You were on his case back then, why you suddenly jumping on me now? Lol

That's from Capcom mafia?

Since then we've had Villains, Gorf, Mario, Fate 2, FEH 2, Bad Idea, and this mafia. I don't see how this quote relates to Uni at all, considering how you had an emotional response ("my trust was misplaced! :/") compared to Uni just saying "Your actions now make me think of you as scum, you seem too interested in trying to lynch me."

If anything, this is just drawing attention to yourself. I have to agree with Uni, pulling a quote from five, six, games ago and trying to use it to frame Uni is desperate.

The point is:
>Mafia!Me scumslips by lacking the proper emotional reaction
>Townie points it out
>Mafia!Me immediatelly has that reaction.

Uni didn't read me as Scum when he should, I point it out to him, he starts reading me as Scum.

That's.... not at all what he's saying lol. He's saying that of course he may respond odd, this hasn't happened to him since his first game ever. Again, way to paint someone else as the problem.

He's saying that he does suspicious when he IS scum and thus isn't scum but that's such a bad argument for a number of reasons. Scumslips aren't intentional, he can't control them much less point out to "when I was scum, I would have done THIS"

I didn't catch a scumslip from Uni.

That's not my problem.

In conclusion, Shish is using desperate methods to lash out on Uni and has contradicted himself numerous times in his postings. Shish blatantly lacks self-awareness and is ignoring any suspicion towards him but is still pointing fingers at other people. His argument relies on invalid evidence and he is continuing to make it so that others are the problem, not him. This is not a good townie mindset, and with all of the errors he has made, I am inclined to think that he is our prime Day 1 lynch.

Vote: Shishoe

I haven't contradicted myself at all, you're the one misreading my posts.

Whoa whoa whoa, who said that by necessity one of us is scum? I think you're the scummiest out of everyone so far this game, but I'm far from saying there isn't a possibility we're not both town.

By his logic, not mine

Which one between Uni and Shish do you prefer?

@Shishœ assume both you and Uni are Town. Who is the most suspicious to you?

I fail to see the point of asking me this, of course I'm gonna say Uni because I can't see myself without the knowledge that I am Town.

Also, to add to my point, people are overreacting to this whole thing, all I'm doing is simply analyzing the situation yet I see users reacting as if I'm personally out for Uni's head.

 

[BarDulL]

I fail to see the point of asking me this, of course I'm gonna say Uni because I can't see myself without the knowledge that I am Town..

I think you misread my post. I was asking you to assume a scenario in which both you and Uni are Town; I wanted to know your opinion on who you felt was scum in a situation where there is a chance your interactions with Uni are TvT.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I think you misread my post. I was asking you to assume a scenario in which both you and Uni are Town; I wanted to know your opinion on who you felt was scum in a situation where there is a chance your interactions with Uni are TvT.

He's probably gonna say me anyway because he's one of the two in this situation.

 

[Deleted member]

I think you misread my post. I was asking you to assume a scenario in which both you and Uni are Town; I wanted to know your opinion on who you felt was scum in a situation where there is a chance your interactions with Uni are TvT.

Again, I don't see the point in that, I have full knowledge of what I'm doing, how I'm doing it, and why I'm doing it, so I don't, and can't, see my actions as suspicious.
If Uni is Town, I don't know why he's doing what he's doing. His actions aren't suspicious by themselves but when compared to past behaviour it shows he's acting like his Scum meta. And his ass-kissing of me was just bad regardless

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

And his ***-kissing of me was just bad regardless

You still misinterpret it as ass-kissing despite me explainig my train of thought. Twice.

 

[BarDulL]

Oh jeez. Shish, you're making yourself extremely easy to be lynched. Can you cut the attitude?

 

[BarDulL]

Ehhh I think it would be better to just get a claim at this point, I actually. I don't think we're going to get much else out of this.

Vote: Shishce

 

[Deleted member]

I really don't care if you guys lynch me, I'm tired of being antagonized for doing exactly what I'm supposed to do in this game. And I already claimed, that was the first thing I did!

 

[BarDulL]

I really don't care if you guys lynch me, I'm tired of being antagonized for doing exactly what I'm supposed to do in this game. And I already claimed, that was the first thing I did!

Oh, I missed that. One second.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Oh, I missed that. One second.

I'll save you the time; he claimed Louise.

 

[BarDulL]

I think I know you claimed your character, but did you claim a role? Save me the trouble lol

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I don't remember if he said vanilla or if he just didn't say anything.

 

[BarDulL]

Yeah, character claims aren't going to do it for me. I want a role claim.

So far, all I know is that Shish said that whoever guessed his role should be protected the following night. Someone ended up claiming that he was Louise, annnnd then he confirmed it, then mentioned that the actual protective should protect whoever guessed it.

I also think Shishce is really silly for saying that "only Uni can be scum from my point of view" but he isn't considering the possibility that he's wrong, then acts abrasively towards me for asking a reasonable question.

 

[Deleted member]

I also think Shishce is really silly for saying that "only Uni can be scum from my point of view" but he isn't considering the possibility that he's wrong, then acts abrasively towards me for asking a reasonable question.

I never said that, I learned well enough after the Pokechu fiasco. I'm simply giving my reasoning as to why I think he is.
What I'm annoyed about is the fact I'm being voted for simply for PLAYING THE GAME.

 

[Deleted member]

Also, I never acted "abrasively" towards you, Bard, I simply fail to see the point in your question because the answer is inevitably biased.

 

[Pokechu]

Also, I never acted "abrasively" towards you, Bard, I simply fail to see the point in your question because the answer is inevitably biased.

He's probably gonna say me anyway because he's one of the two in this situation.

Barney is just asking aside from each other, who is on your suspect list?

 

[BarDulL]

It's a very simple question: if YOU assume that UNIKORN is Town, then WHO are the actual bad guys?

That means that Unikorn can not be an answer to this question.

 

[BarDulL]

You can say that you're not being abrasive, but you look and are coming off as abrasive at the moment.

I fail to see the point of asking me this, of course I'm gonna say Uni because I can't see myself without the knowledge that I am Town.

I really don't care if you guys lynch me, I'm tired of being antagonized for doing exactly what I'm supposed to do in this game. And I already claimed, that was the first thing I did!

Definition of abrasive: (of a person or manner) showing little concern for the feelings of others; harsh.

Looks abrasive to me, buddy.

 

[Deleted member]

You can say that you're not being abrasive, but you look and are coming off as abrasive at the moment.





Definition of abrasive: (of a person or manner) showing little concern for the feelings of others; harsh.

Looks abrasive to me, buddy.

1-I don't see how that's showing little concern for other's feelings or harsh, I just don't see the point of your question.
2-If that's showing lack of concern towards anyone it's me and not anyone else.

 

[Deleted member]

But whatever, this isn't the place for this kind of discussion

 

[Pokechu]

can you answer the question thoughhhhh

the point is that he's curious who you're suspicious of, aside from Uni

it helps to create a better read and see if you have another suspect in common

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Votecount:

Maven89-
Pokechu- (1) ShadowTheHedgehogZ
Shishœ- (3) Spak, Pokechu, Bardull
Opossum-
Ura-
Jojalole- (1) Opossum
LoneKonWolf-
Bardull-
ShadowTheHedgehogZ-
Red Ryu-
Moydow-
The Stoopid Unikorn- (1) Shishoe
Spak- (1) Red Ryu

Currently voting: (7) Spak, Shishœ, Opossum, Pokechu, ShadowTheHedgehogZ, Bardull, Red Ryu

Not Voting: (6) Maven89, Ura, Jojalole, LoneKonWolf, Moydow, The Stoopid Unikorn

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on Friday, August 3rd @ 12 PM EST

 

[BarDulL]

I think he's just trying to dodge the question and is actually scum, lol.

Also hasn't role claimed yet. I'm thinking this is case closed.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Reminder that if you would like a fresh look at the current votecount later in the game, tag me and/or Nabe and reply "Request Votecount". Periodically, I will update the vote count myself whenever I find the time.

 

[Deleted member]

can you answer the question thoughhhhh

the point is that he's curious who you're suspicious of, aside from Uni

it helps to create a better read and see if you have another suspect in common

What question though?

 

[Pokechu]

What question though?

Aside from Uni, who are you suspicious of?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Vote: Shishoe

Dude was desperate enough to make a callback to a game that happened months ago just to incriminate me.

That's the part where he's not just grasping straws; he's straight up going to a store to buy a whole box of them.