Fire Emblem 7 Mafia Poisoned Mutton Edition - Mafia Wins.

[Opossum]

Hey, don't compare best girl Louise to Tsundere With A Bow

I mean to be fair Louise is pretty great. One of my favorites from FE7. I was just making a sniper joke.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Votecount:

ShinyLegendary-
Pokechu- (1) ShadowTheHedgehogZ
Shishœ- (2) Spak, The Stoopid Unikorn
Opossum-
Ura- (1) Shishœ
Jojalole- (1) Opossum
LoneKonWolf-
Bardull-
ShadowTheHedgehogZ- (3) Ura, Red Ryu, ShinyLegendary
Red Ryu-
Moydow-
The Stoopid Unikorn-
Spak-

Currently voting: (8) Spak, Opossum, Shishœ,, ShadowTheHedgehogZ, Bardull, Red Ryu, The Stoopid Unikorn, Ura

Not Voting: (5) Bardull, Jojalole, LoneKonWolf, Moydow, Pokechu
With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on Friday, August 3rd @ 12 PM EST

14 HOURS LEFT TILL DEADLINE

 

[Ura]

Votecount:

ShinyLegendary-
Pokechu- (1) ShadowTheHedgehogZ
Shishœ- (2) Spak, The Stoopid Unikorn
Opossum-
Ura- (1) Shishœ
Jojalole- (1) Opossum
LoneKonWolf-
Bardull-
ShadowTheHedgehogZ- (3) Ura, Red Ryu, ShinyLegendary
Red Ryu-
Moydow-
The Stoopid Unikorn-
Spak-

Currently voting: (8) Spak, Opossum, Pokechu, ShadowTheHedgehogZ, Bardull, Red Ryu, The Stoopid Unikorn, Ura

Not Voting: (5) Bardull, Jojalole, LoneKonWolf, Moydow, Shishœ

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on Friday, August 3rd @ 12 PM EST

14 HOURS LEFT TILL DEADLINE

Shish did vote dude.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Shish did vote dude.

He then unvoted, dude.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Oh wait, just noticed the vote on Ura.

 

[Ura]

He then unvoted, dude.

He never unvoted me.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Ura's right, Shish did vote, he was voting Ura even before I edited the post it was like that, I just accidentally put him in the not voting section instead of Pokechu. My bad.

 

[Ura]

even before I edited the post

Hostkill inbound!

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Vote: Nier

:V

 

[Ura]

...So back to the topic on hand I wanted to mention something.

Have we even considered the possibility of a double voter here? Granted we don't know if a role like this exists or not in this game and if it's a user who hasn't voted yet.

 

[BarDulL]

Deadline is in 9 hours, right? Ehhhh man. ShadowTheHedgehogZ is looking to be the lynch with three votes, but his slot pretty much has no substance except that we know he is Pent. :/

Fire Emblemier it shows me as voting and not voting. I'm pretty sure I wasn't voting. :O

Spak where's your head at on this?

 

[BarDulL]

Yeah, there's just no chance I'm going to be here by deadline, so...

I don't really know who to vote for, but we gotta get stuff done. Sorry Ura but I think you're a good route to pursue. I felt your approach to Uni/Shish was suspicious, and I feel like you might be trying to fake content with the 1-man mafia thing...which would have been fine by itself I guess, but you also brought up the possibility of a double voter and it's starting to look like fluff. I don't really see as much Town intent in terms of authentic scum hunting.

Vote: Ura

 

[Opossum]

Yeah, I'm gonna follow my thoughts from before.
Unvote
Vote: Ura

I'm not sure if I'm comfortable lynching someone who isn't so much as defending themselves. However, something is telling me one of Ura and Shish is suspish. Pressure time.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Unvote
Vote: Ura

Just doing this to add extra pressure.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Right...so how long until deadline like 2 hour? We need a majority

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: Ura

This way then

 

[Spak]

Spak where's your head at on this?

My head is rather busy and not read up at the moment...

 

[Ura]

Just woke up and what the literal **** guys? Why the hell is everyone piling up votes on me?

- People are voting me on suspicious l of me asking questions? Seriously? I made every indication to tell everyone that I was genuinely confused about the flavor showing how many Mafia members there are. Shish is trying to do his best to make me look scummy and he insists on doing so regardless of what I say. Oddly enough, wanting to really push this agenda right after he was flammed the day before.

- And riddle me this people. If I had anything to do with the Mafia, WHY THE BLOODY HELL WOULD I EVEN WANT TO REMOTELY BRING UP SUSPICION ABOUT A DOUBLE VOTER? The last thing I would want as scum is for anyone to take in to account a possible doublevoter. It's insane that I could be labelled as suspicious for trying to bring up the possibility of that role coming in to play and yet no matter what I say or do, I'm always labelled as suspicious despite me trying to help Town.

I guess now I'd the best time to say this. My win condition is that so even if I were to die and Town wins, I would still win the game. I'm looking after the best interests of Town here in my play and I keep getting blamed for this ****. Like whatever I try to help Town it always processes to people as "huh I guess Ura is scum" and even more frustrating is when it's over something so frivolous like me being confused over an aspect of the game.

You guys can bring your pitchforks at me but my God you're going to feel so stupid once the Day ends. I recognize this is a game and **** but I'm pulling my hair out IRL for this stupidity. I genuinely don't want to play anymore.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Oh that’s an Indy claim, yeah not moving my vote.

I lynch all indies.

 

[Pokechu]

Oh that’s an Indy claim, yeah not moving my vote.

I lynch all indies.

From sample role in OP

You win if Mafia is defeated even if you die.

That's not an Indy claim. That's a town claim.

 

[Pokechu]

I don't think Ura is that sketch? I mean, I found it suspicious how his posts felt like "filler", like questioning if there could be a one man mafia, since the answer to that seems obvious, but we have to admit, he provided a unique perspective on Uni/Shish and I doubt it was meant to throw shade on both of them. He also mentioned a doublevoter being in play, which I hadn't thought of, although I'd say the chances of one being here are unlikely since this is a vanilla game.

At worst it's null because it may come off as filler, but I don't think we should lynch Ura. We'd gain like no information from it and just be lynching just to lynch.

 

[Pokechu]

Even one of Uni/Shish would be better to lynch because we could go back through their argument, even if it is TvT. I wouldn't be surprised if both are townies but I still think it'd be a better choice than lynching Ura.

Sorry Ura, there's a reason I haven't placed my vote on you. You seem fine in my book.

 

[Opossum]

If he's town though I'm giving Uni a good long look. He hopped on the bandwagon without so much as a reason and showed no sign of hesitation prior.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

From sample role in OP



That's not an Indy claim. That's a town claim.

Wording is subject to me, why word it in a way to say even if I die and town wins I win? Why word it that way.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

even if it is TvT. I wouldn't be surprised if both are townies but I still think it'd be a better choice than lynching Ura.

Gross post.

 

[Ura]

If there's a lie detector out there in this game, i'm asking you to please confirm me.

And if there's a tracker, cop, or whatever i'm asking you all to come my way and confirm me. I don't know what else I can do to prove my point.

Wording is subject to me, why word it in a way to say even if I die and town wins I win? Why word it that way.

Because i'm a vanilla townie and even if I were to die, Town would still win. What's so ****ing hard about comprehending this?

 

[Pokechu]

Wording is subject to me, why word it in a way to say even if I die and town wins I win? Why word it that way.

Because that's what the wording is.

"You win if Mafia is defeated even if you die."

You can switch the order of this to be "Even if you die, you win if Mafia is defeated", which is the same as "Even if you die, you win if town wins", which is the same as "Even if you die, if town wins you win."

It's not that much of a stretch.

Gross post.

I'm not saying "let's lynch BOTH!"

I'm saying that due to the size of that argument, and how they went on to other things (such as how Opo mentioned Uni hopping on the Ura train), we'd get more from lynching one of them than we would Ura.

 

[Deleted member]

Even one of Uni/Shish would be better to lynch because we could go back through their argument, even if it is TvT. I wouldn't be surprised if both are townies but I still think it'd be a better choice than lynching Ura.

Sorry Ura, there's a reason I haven't placed my vote on you. You seem fine in my book.

So you admit Uni and I can both be Town yet you say we're a better option than Ura?

If there's a lie detector out there in this game, i'm asking you to please confirm me.

And if there's a tracker, cop, or whatever i'm asking you all to come my way and confirm me. I don't know what else I can do to prove my point.

Because i'm a vanilla townie and even if I were to die, Town would still win. What's so ****ing hard about comprehending this?

Me, as a Godfather: "please check me cops so I can come up clean"
Also, no way in hell this game has a Lie Detector, that's not a standard Mafia role at all.

 

[Ura]

Me, as a Godfather: "please check me cops so I can come up clean"
Also, no way in hell this game has a Lie Detector, that's not a standard Mafia role at all.

Look at what I said. I asked for every kind of role that could possibly confirm someone's identity to target me with their PR's.

What kind of bloody role is there that comes up clean for all of these roles?

And no said Lie Detector would be a Town role if it existed. No **** it isn't a standard Mafia role.

 

[Pokechu]

So you admit Uni and I can both be Town yet you say we're a better option than Ura?

Just because I wouldn't be surprised if you're both town doesn't mean I also wouldn't be surprised if one of you is mafia.

Even if you are both town, confirming it helps.

I'm saying that yeah, if you/Uni were to flip town, I wouldn't be surprised, like you're not obvious "OMG mafia1!!!". And just by sheer numbers, chances are that yeah, you are town. There's only what, 3 mafia lol. But that's not the same as saying "I genuinely think both Uni and Shish are clean."

 

[Pokechu]

I'm not trying to imply "yeah, Shish/Uni needs to go", I'm just stating that Ura doesn't seem any dirtier than Uni/Shish to me and because the latter had their whole argument and moved onto other things, I see them as a better lynch than Ura.

 

[Ura]

And it's so rich that Shish is trying to persuade Chu that i'm the better option of being lynched then he is. Despite the fact that he voted for more people than I can count.

 

[Spak]

If there's a lie detector out there in this game, i'm asking you to please confirm me.

And if there's a tracker, cop, or whatever i'm asking you all to come my way and confirm me. I don't know what else I can do to prove my point.

Because i'm a vanilla townie and even if I were to die, Town would still win. What's so ****ing hard about comprehending this?

OK, follow my instructions directly:
1. Say either "I am Mafia" or "I am Town"
2. In the next post, say "In post ###, I was not lying"
3. I'll lie detect that post since I am disallowed from using the lie detector on "I am Mafia" and "I am Town" posts.

 

[Ura]

OK, follow my instructions directly:
1. Say either "I am Mafia" or "I am Town"
2. In the next post, say "In post ###, I was not lying"
3. I'll lie detect that post since I am disallowed from using the lie detector on "I am Mafia" and "I am Town" posts.

Okay but just for transparency sake I need to word it exactly like how my role says it in the PM otherwise it might not process properly. Is that okay with you?

 

[Ura]

Fire Emblemier

Is it okay if I quote my Role PM you gave to me?

 

[Deleted member]

Look at what I said. I asked for every kind of role that could possibly confirm someone's identity to target me with their PR's.

What kind of bloody role is there that comes up clean for all of these roles?

And no said Lie Detector would be a Town role if it existed. No **** it isn't a standard Mafia role.

Deliberately asking investigative roles to target you is pointless because
If you're Town: it's a wasted Night for them.
If you're Mafia: you're the Godfather and come up clean on Cop checks and can simply not perform the kill to trick a Tracker.

Also, what I said about there not being a Lie Detector is that this game won't have one. It isn't a standard Mafia role, it's a role created and used in NZ-style games and it's really just a more powerful Cop.

I'm not trying to imply "yeah, Shish/Uni needs to go", I'm just stating that Ura doesn't seem any dirtier than Uni/Shish to me and because the latter had their whole argument and moved onto other things, I see them as a better lynch than Ura.

So I'm more suspicious because I "moved on"?

And it's so rich that Shish is trying to persuade Chu that i'm the better option of being lynched then he is. Despite the fact that he voted for more people than I can count.

What does the number of people I voted for have anything to do with how suspicious I am? You guys seriously need to re-evaluate what you consider scummy. How does changing my votes push a Mafia agenda?

 

[Spak]

Okay but just for transparency sake I need to word it exactly like how my role says it in the PM otherwise it might not process properly. Is that okay with you?

I don't think that you're allowed to directly copy from your PM (via the rules). Stating an alignment should be either a lie or a truth.

 

[Ura]

I don't think that you're allowed to directly copy from your PM (via the rules). Stating an alignment should be either a lie or a truth.

Okay fair enough. I'll do as you said in my next two posts.

 

[Ura]

I am Town.

 

[Pokechu]

So I'm more suspicious because I "moved on"?

Nah, I'm saying that we'd get more information/understanding because you guys were more involved in things than Ura. You guys had the fight with each other, then how you acted to Ura's wagon, among other things we could use (such as small reactions here and there).

The same reason why Shadow got a few votes IIRC but no wagon formed because he wasn't involved in anything, he was an inactive.