Fire Emblem 7 Mafia Poisoned Mutton Edition - Mafia Wins.

[LoneKonWolf]

Ura @Jojalole @ShadowTheHedgehogZ LoneKonWolf
Anything you might wanna contribute?

Nothing of particular use.

Oh, I am Wallace the Jailer.

. . . . . . . . . . i. . . I think i just got an aneurysm.

 

[Deleted member]

. . . . . . . . . . i. . . I think i just got an aneurysm.

Oh that was not a sweet play.
Mafia will definitely target me tonight.
Do not fear townies, you still got this!

 

[Pokechu]

I mentioned that because it's helluva suspicious that Shish wants to make me out to be shady when he himself is in the hotseat. Not only that but he had me pegged as potentially suspicious even before then.

Guy is clearly looking for an out.

How is it suspicious that Shish probing you

When even you admit that he had you pegged as suspicious "even before" he was in the hotseat?

That clearly means that he's just suspicious of you. And not that he's looking for a way out.

 

[Deleted member]

Hot take: hotseat warms my butt

You want to redirect suspicion when you yourself are in the hotseat. And in the event that Shadow was Mafia, it would take suspicion off him as well.

How wouod that take suspicion off him when I'm voting for you, not him?

I outlined my reasoning on why I think Shadow could very well be Mafia. Specifically referencing my play in Villains Mafia as evidence of that.

You're using your own play to frame him as guilty, this is his first game, how are you two related?

You're attempting to use my link between you and Uni earlier on in the game as a means to incriminate me when I said myself that it wasn't a thought that held much weight. Just me theorizing early on in the game

You've brought it up more than once though

) I asked the Mafia question because in a game where the flavor suggests that one guy poisoned Dorcas, it's not completely unreasonable to think that Mafia could only be one person. Unlikely? Maybe but I don't think impossible.

You're using flavor as reasoning in a game where flavor doesn't matter.

 

[Deleted member]

Hot take: hotseat warms my butt

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Unvote

We need a real direction reading up.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Sigh....shiny why....

 

[Deleted member]

Sigh....shiny why....

I did not know my role was THAT important.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I did not know my role was THAT important.

What’s done is done just protect someone and don’t tell anyone who it is.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ehhh I think it would be better to just get a claim at this point, I actually. I don't think we're going to get much else out of this.

Vote: Shishce

This is a quick flip on this, is it his posting that really bothers you? I find it easy to see it as overreacting right now.

 

[Ura]

How is it suspicious that Shish probing you

When even you admit that he had you pegged as suspicious "even before" he was in the hotseat?

That clearly means that he's just suspicious of you. And not that he's looking for a way out.

Because he's been pointing fingers left and right to get out of a stick situation. And now he wants to use Shadow and a bunch of other straw graspy theories to incriminate me. Doesn't this seem suspicious to you?

I said that he had me pegged even before voting for me.

How wouod that take suspicion off him when I'm voting for you, not him?

You're using your own play to frame him as guilty, this is his first game, how are you two related?

You've brought it up more than once though

You're using flavor as reasoning in a game where flavor doesn't matter.

1) Because it points Town towards me right after I voted for him. An easy scum play to make.
2) I said it sounded really oddly familiar to what I did. Inexperience doesn't mean much because I got a lot of guidance from more experience Mafia teammates as to what I should do and say. Hence I voted for him to see how he would react similar to what Holder did to me before.
3) I did only because so many people asked me about it. At every instance, I made sure to clarify that it was just a theory that didn't have much weight behind it.
4) When was that stated? Now i'm just confused here.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Not the only thing that makes me wary of him. But the fact that he went that far just to make me look like a scum is frankly dissapointing.

Maybe this is really why I put pause on this.

Do you think he was intentionally trying a smear campaign or was he being overzealous?

 

[Ura]

Because he's been pointing fingers left and right to get out of a stick situation.

Lol stick situation. This is one typo i'll never live down lmao.

 

[Deleted member]

Because it points Town towards me right after I voted for him. An easy scum play to make.

You're trying to make a scum plan on your head when there's none again, you guys think Mafia thinks of this game in a "I know you know I know you know" situation while theorising about complex plans when... it's not.
Yet you now believe me to be scum simply because I voted for you and you created this whole thing in your head that proves it. It seems more like it's you who's getting all flustered over one vote.

) I said it sounded really oddly familiar to what I did. Inexperience doesn't mean much because I got a lot of guidance from more experience Mafia teammates as to what I should do and say. Hence I voted for him to see how he would react similar to what Holder did to me before.

If you're looking for a reaction, maybe don't say it in public?

I did only because so many people asked me about it. At every instance, I made sure to clarify that it was just a theory that didn't have much weight behind it.

You still believed it enough to mention it though.

When was that stated? Now i'm just confused here

You claim to have made this assumption based on the OP yet you can't come to the conclusion flavor is worthless in this game when it tries to make that fact as explicit as possible?

My vote stays.

 

[Deleted member]

All I can do is jail, how is my death bad for the townies?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Shadow and jojalole are on my can die for doing nothing like.

Rereading ura and opossum with interest.

 

[Ura]

You're trying to make a scum plan on your head when there's none again, you guys think Mafia thinks of this game in a "I know you know I know you know" situation while theorising about complex plans when... it's not.
Yet you now believe me to be scum simply because I voted for you and you created this whole thing in your head that proves it. It seems more like it's you who's getting all flustered over one vote.

If you're looking for a reaction, maybe don't say it in public?

You still believed it enough to mention it though.

You claim to have made this assumption based on the OP yet you can't come to the conclusion flavor is worthless in this game when it tries to make that fact as explicit as possible?

My vote stays.

1) Says the guy who threw the fit about being voted for. Huh?
2) Literally how can I accomplish this in this Day Phase? PM's aren't allowed and even then in the theoretical event that Shadow was Mafia, it would give him a closed avenue to get info off me and share it with his buddies without anyone knowing that.
3) To mention it yes but we're so early in the game that we have to say something about our observations. Which is why I wanted to stress the fact that Town shouldn't take what I said there to heart.
4) Legit I had no idea of that. I asked the question because I was genuinely confused and had no idea.

 

[BarDulL]

It's interesting that Ura is doubling down on a theory that can't be true unless we're in some weird cult game. It seems like an out-of-the-blue comment that tries to come off as attempting to be useful for the Town with speculation as opposed to attempting to be misleading.

I think the biggest selling point for Ura being scum is that he suggested that Uni and Shish had potentially planned their argument in advance, then withdrew from his position when prodded about it.

This is a quick flip on this, is it his posting that really bothers you? I find it easy to see it as overreacting right now.

He was coming off as being really abrasive (his phrasing, which included saying things like Uni was "ass-kissing" him, and that he "fails to understand" why I would ask a question (which could be an implication that he thinks I am dumb), while also not answering my question. Saying he doesn't care if he gets lynched, etc. is also ). Turns out it was just this really wild miscommunication based on the interpretation of the word "who"...

Opossum there's been a lot of content. Who do you think are the bad baddies?

 

[Deleted member]

1) Says the guy who threw the fit about being voted for. Huh?

What are you talking about?

2) Literally how can I accomplish this in this Day Phase? PM's aren't allowed and even then in the theoretical event that Shadow was Mafia, it would give him a closed avenue to get info off me and share it with his buddies without anyone knowing that.

What

3) To mention it yes but we're so early in the game that we have to say something about our observations. Which is why I wanted to stress the fact that Town shouldn't take what I said there to heart.

Fair enough

4) Legit I had no idea of that. I asked the question because I was genuinely confused and had no idea

Yeah, sure

 

[BarDulL]

Clarification: Ura is a big null for me because I don't know if he would, as scum, try to pass off a statement like "there might be a 1-man mafia team" when something like that just isn't true unless we're in a cult game of sorts. Basically, as scum, he would be knowingly providing fraudulent information based on flavor to come off as speculating for the good of Town while actively attempting to mislead them.

Whereas the Town side of things is that he is just incorrect about the possibility of there being a single man mafia team and doesn't understand mafia game balance, but was trying to be helpful through speculation.

 

[Ura]

What are you talking about?

What

Fair enough

Yeah, sure

1) Literally all of yesterday.
2) You're questioning why I wanted to get info out of Shadow in public when I told you I wanted to do what Holder did to me the last game. I also brought up the fact that Shadow could potentially get rid of me in the Night phase through a private PM.
4) Honestly if this is your lousy attempt at trying to incriminate me then buddy you need to try harder. Even when I went out of my way to explain why I was confused.

It's interesting that Ura is doubling down on a theory that can't be true unless we're in some weird cult game. It seems like an out-of-the-blue comment that tries to come off as attempting to be useful for the Town with speculation as opposed to attempting to be misleading.

I think the biggest selling point for Ura being scum is that he suggested that Uni and Shish had potentially planned their argument in advance, then withdrew from his position when prodded about it.

When did I ever double down on that? Bruh have you even been reading?

I said that theory was me trying to theorize early in the game and it was never to be taken to heart.

 

[Ura]

Clarification: Ura is a big null for me because I don't know if he would, as scum, try to pass off a statement like "there might be a 1-man mafia team" when something like that just isn't true unless we're in a cult game of sorts. Basically, as scum, he would be knowingly providing fraudulent information based on flavor to come off as speculating for the good of Town while actively attempting to mislead them.

Whereas the Town side of things is that he is just incorrect about the possibility of there being a single man mafia team and doesn't understand mafia game balance, but was trying to be helpful through speculation.

I should also add that if I were scum, I wouldn't want to make any indications as to the size of Mafia's team. It would be completely asinine for any Mafia member to get Town to speculate how many of them their could be.

 

[BarDulL]

Ura this is what I was referring to when I said you were doubling down:

Is Mafia a one-man force in this game?

I mean traditionally it's usually 3-4 people but the flavor implies it was one guy that poisoned Dorcas.

4) I asked the Mafia question because in a game where the flavor suggests that one guy poisoned Dorcas, it's not completely unreasonable to think that Mafia could only be one person. Unlikely? Maybe but I don't think impossible.

I realize that I need to be less ambiguous when I make my posts to ensure optimal communication, lol.

 

[Ura]

Ura this is what I was referring to when I said you were doubling down:





I realize that I need to be less ambiguous when I make my posts to ensure optimal communication, lol.

I was saying all that because I was confused dude. A suggestion that I thought could hold some weight until Shish pointed out the flavor had no barring on the amount of Mafia members.

 

[Deleted member]

You're questioning why I wanted to get info out of Shadow in public when I told you I wanted to do what Holder did to me the last game. I also brought up the fact that Shadow could potentially get rid of me in the Night phase through a private PM.

I questioned "why you said you were looking for a reaction" in public. Telling everyone you want a reaction kills the point of fishing for one.

Honestly if this is your lousy attempt at trying to incriminate me then buddy you need to try harder. Even when I went out of my way to explain why I was confused.

You keep trying to push me and that's not making your case any better. Why don't you try to defend yourself before trying to incriminate me? And I have no reason to believe you're telling the truth on you being confused when that's what finally tipped me over that you were acting suspicious.

I should also add that if I were scum, I wouldn't want to make any indications as to the size of Mafia's team. It would be completely asinine for any Mafia member to get Town to speculate how many of them their could be.

It's 3, this is a 13-person game. 2 is too little, 4 is too much. What else would it be?

 

[Ura]

I questioned "why you said you were looking for a reaction" in public. Telling everyone you want a reaction kills the point of fishing for one.

You keep trying to push me and that's not making your case any better. Why don't you try to defend yourself before trying to incriminate me? And I have no reason to believe you're telling the truth on you being confused when that's what finally tipped me over that you were acting suspicious.

It's 3, this is a 13-person game. 2 is too little, 4 is too much. What else would it be?

1) You questioned me so I had to give out my though process on it. Otherwise i'd look like an idiot saying nothing when people are asking me about why I voted for Shadow.
2) Except that I literally wasn't trying to incriminate you with that post. Please re-read it. You were the one doing that to me by saying "yeah sure" as if to paint me as a liar. And ironically enough you're still trying to press me and paint me as suspicions. Huh?
3) As I said, it was a thought that crossed my mind until it was clarified that the flavor had no barring. Why do you keep going back to his point?

 

[Ura]

Why do you keep going back to his point?

*this point*

Bad grammar TM.

 

[Deleted member]

1) You questioned me so I had to give out my though process on it. Otherwise i'd look like an idiot saying nothing when people are asking me about why I voted for Shadow.
2) Except that I literally wasn't trying to incriminate you with that post. Please re-read it. You were the one doing that to me by saying "yeah sure" as if to paint me as a liar. And ironically enough you're still trying to press me and paint me as suspicions. Huh?
3) As I said, it was a thought that crossed my mind until it was clarified that the flavor had no barring. Why do you keep going back to his point?

So that vote is now pointless

"If this is your lousy attempt to incriminate me" how is that not trying to incriminate me? You're implying I'm trying to mislynch.

Because your clarification is meaningless to me. I saw three things stack up and the last one is the most suspicious of them all, I'm not gonna discard it so easily just because you, the suspect, told me to.

 

[Ura]

So that vote is now pointless

"If this is your lousy attempt to incriminate me" how is that not trying to incriminate me? You're implying I'm trying to mislynch.

Because your clarification is meaningless to me. I saw three things stack up and the last one is the most suspicious of them all, I'm not gonna discard it so easily just because you, the suspect, told me to.

No it's not. I still have a suspicion of him being Mafia based on the comparison I made before. I feel like i'm going circles here.

No i'm implying that what you're trying to say is doing something in a manner that will paint me as suspicious based on something so frivolous.

And you're doing it again man. You're honestly losing me here right now. If you want to keep your vote on me then so be it, this is borderline insane.

 

[Deleted member]

I WILL LIVE!
MAFIA, YOU CAN NOT GET ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...
Okay I will probably be killed by the mafia anyway.

 

[Ura]

I WILL LIVE!
MAFIA, YOU CAN NOT GET ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...
Okay I will probably be killed by the mafia anyway.

Don't tempt fate Shiny lol.

No but for real don't do it lmao.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: ShadowTheHedgehogZ

Don’t feel good with a Shish lynch gut feel of town that got in over their head. The abrasive ness doesn’t look like scum motivation.

 

[Deleted member]

Vote: ShadowTheHedgehogZ

Don’t feel good with a Shish lynch gut feel of town that got in over their head. The abrasive ness doesn’t look like scum motivation.

Vote: ShadowTheHedgehogZ

 

[BarDulL]

Vote: ShadowTheHedgehogZ

Don’t feel good with a Shish lynch gut feel of town that got in over their head. The abrasive ness doesn’t look like scum motivation.

What made you turn to Shadow from Ura/Opossum?

I agree about the Shish point.

Unvote

 

[BarDulL]

nvm Shadow was on your can-die list, right?

According to Moydow, Shadow has just been afk for two days, so lynching him is a shot in the dark.

Did you gain anything upon reread?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

What made you turn to Shadow from Ura/Opossum?

I agree about the Shish point.

Unvote

Haven’t Reread them yet, at work atm, want to push this since that slot is either lurking or doing nothing.

 

[Opossum]

It's interesting that Ura is doubling down on a theory that can't be true unless we're in some weird cult game. It seems like an out-of-the-blue comment that tries to come off as attempting to be useful for the Town with speculation as opposed to attempting to be misleading.

I think the biggest selling point for Ura being scum is that he suggested that Uni and Shish had potentially planned their argument in advance, then withdrew from his position when prodded about it.



He was coming off as being really abrasive (his phrasing, which included saying things like Uni was "***-kissing" him, and that he "fails to understand" why I would ask a question (which could be an implication that he thinks I am dumb), while also not answering my question. Saying he doesn't care if he gets lynched, etc. is also ). Turns out it was just this really wild miscommunication based on the interpretation of the word "who"...

Opossum there's been a lot of content. Who do you think are the bad baddies?

I think at least one out of Ura/Shish might be Mafia. Then again, we had a Pent claim to go along with Clarisse. Shadow's silence makes me want to vote for them, but I'll hold off for now.

 

[Deleted member]

Clarisse

What's up with you confusing other characters with Clarisse?

 

[Opossum]

What's up with you confusing other characters with Clarisse?

Deep down I'm still salty the role died on day one.

Clarisse, Louise, same thing.

 

[Deleted member]

Deep down I'm still salty the role died on day one.

Clarisse, Louise, same thing.

Hey, don't compare best girl Louise to Tsundere With A Bow