FF6 Mafia - GAME OVER! Mafia wins!

[BSL]

So second day doesn't mean even days, then.

Who hasn't claimed yet?

 

[Cello_Marl]

Technically, none of GLG, Swiss or Zen have character claimed, but Swiss was breadcrumbing Kappa since the confirmation phase, and Relm is the only thing that makes sense for GLG. Zen and GLG haven't properly role-claimed. InCom hasn't claimed either, so I'll do it for him.

To recap:

1. giraffelasergun - Neighborhood Member - Relm
3. Inferiority - Neighborhood Recruiter 1-shot Cop - Sabin
4. Dark Horse - Roleblocking Super Saint - Cyan
5. Nabe - Double Lynch - Setzer
6. Zen - ??? - probably Edgar/Gerad
8. Cello_Marl - Voteless Cop/Vanilla Townie - Gau
9. J - Voteblocking "Mason" - Mog
11. RocketPSIence - Vigilante - Shadow
12. Vanderzant - Other Day Double Voter - Terra
13. Swiss - "Miller" with Mod information (X1/Umaro is town, unspecified)- Kappa
14. Meta-Kirby - Flavor Cop with Mod information (Strago is mafia) - Gogo
16. BSL - Tracker - Siegfried

For sake of completion:

Tandora - Mass Roleblocker - Celes
X1 - "Mason" - Umaro
Xatres - Doctor - Locke
Sephiroths Masamune - Hated Absorber (Blue Mage) - Strago

 

[BSL]

So we have no VTs in this game, then.

 

[Xivii]

Is slave stop X1 not being able to change his vote? If that's the case, then it was either M-K or Swiss. Most likely M-Km but I could see swiss too.

-MK has "special info". One that told him who one of the scum is. iirc, Kefka-indy was the only person who had such kind of info in OS's last game, under the heading 'mod notes' or something like that. OS likes to power up his indy and I believe this is why M-K has such valuble info because he is indy. He's right that he wouldn't bus seph the way he did, which shows he is not mafia at least with Seph. M-K's claimed that he can investigate someones role and will then be unaffected if targeted by that role. This does not sound like something town would have. It sounds more like what kefka indy had last game. It says in the flavor that Kefka is defeated, but I wouldn't be suprised if OS put Kefka in this or at least an indy in a similar manner.

Cello you have got to be the most stubborn person I've played with other than OS himself. But you're being played by the flavor. I admit it's cool how you guessed my character, but you're wrong about both me and M-K and it's ****ing fustrating. I'm not indy, nor am I scum. M-K is indy and you just need to trust me for today. Lynch M-K or have him hammer DH and vigged if he is not killed upon it. He is likely not telling us all he can do. OS gives his indy's multiple abilities. Investigate me if you still don't trust me after MKs flip. We now know you aren't naive. And I think that M-Ks flip and possibly DHs will show you that I don't have the abilities you think I have. And confirming that I'm telling the truth about my character could probably help you as well.


As for my role, I am edgar, king of something (I forgot. Starts with an F I think). Despite the name of my character, my role isn't all that king like. Each night I can choose to investigate someone, but the info that I get is displayed during the day and I'm left to infer. I'm pretty sure now though that the info is through posting restriction. I realized this when J was saying he had a lover. N1 I investigated X1 and the next day he had the same posting restriction as J. This is how I knew X1 was Js mason partner after J had claimed he had a partner. Last night I used this on M-K. I was hoping that I could use this to out him for what he is, but so far I haven't noticed any kind of restriction..

btw correct me if I'm wrong, but M-K did only claim that he was protected from the role he investigated right? Not that he gained the ability? If so why would he target two people who were likely to die? To target Tandora freaking odd to do. But to target Xastern, the claimed doc is even odder. I don't see why he would follow cello's advice on that when he was under the assumption that M-K gained the ability, not that he was just protected from it. Quote me if M-K did in fact claim this though and I'm wrong..

 

[BSL]

Ah, so you investigated MK. I tracked you, but because of the punishment (I assume), all I got back was a string of numbers and letters. It looked like hex, but it didn't translate into anything readable. It could've been, and probably was, a mini-puzzle that OS likes to make, but it doesn't matter, since you just told us.

 

[Cello_Marl]

M-K's claimed that he can investigate someones role and will then be unaffected if targeted by that role. This does not sound like something town would have. It sounds more like what kefka indy had last game. It says in the flavor that Kefka is defeated, but I wouldn't be suprised if OS put Kefka in this or at least an indy in a similar manner.

Who's relying of flavor again?

And confirming that I'm telling the truth about my character could probably help you as well.

Who's relying of flavor again?

MK has "special info". One that told him who one of the scum is. iirc, Kefka-indy was the only person who had such kind of info in OS's last game, under the heading 'mod notes' or something like that. OS likes to power up his indy and I believe this is why M-K has such valuble info because he is indy.

And yet you don't have the same view of Swiss's "special info". Don't want to get on scum's bad side, I see.

Each night I can choose to investigate someone, but the info that I get is displayed during the day and I'm left to infer.

This one is a real beauty.

You have an investigation ability that doesn't directly tell you any information, and you don't know how it works?! One that gives restrictions to townies, which would EASILY cause MOD votes to pile up?

Yeah. ****ing. Right.

If I didn't need to keep my investigation ability as a threat against scum, I'd vote you in a heartbeat.

 

[M.K]

Kefka-indy was the only person who had such kind of info in OS's last game, under the heading 'mod notes' or something like that

The header for my informational section is nowhere near "Mod Notes". The obligatory "well *SOMETHING* likes that" proves the fragility of your statement.

 

[Cello_Marl]

MK, you shouldn't have said that. You should have waited to see what Swiss said. Still...

Swiss, what is the name of your ability that granted you special information about X1? Why did you speak as though having mod information made your judgment better? Since DH could say his ability names, you should be able to as well.

MK, confirm or deny Swiss's response.

 

[Xivii]

Cello yeah that's why I didn't want to claim because my role is wack because I knew people would think I'm not town for it.

I didn't say you were relying on flavor, I said you were being played by it lol. And there's a difference between flavor and set up fyi.

I think Swiss could be scum/indy too. I said that. Also Swiss didn't say he got "special notes", he said he had reason to think X1 was town based on his PM, and I assumed he was talking about the flavor of his role.

 

[Cello_Marl]

You make a lot of dangerous assumptions, Zen.

X1 is confirmed town through my role PM, not just my read. His death is not necessary.

This is very cut and dry. What else might it be? Clearly he was trying to appeal to me since I would be investigating him that Night. On that note.

He claimed Miller (right after I announced I'd be investigated him, but that's not important). How can you say that you think he could be indy? That makes no sense at all.

Lynch Zen at will.

 

[Xivii]

Not sure bout that. Just like X1 said that "J told him, he was scum", yeah? Sorry Cello, but you're being a dumb ***.

I think he could be in indy in the small event that M-K is not. I don't think M-K is not, so I hardly acknowledged that. But if by the small chance M-K wasn't, I could see Swiss being so. I don't exactly have much a scum read on him, but he's not playing like normal Swiss.

 

[Xivii]

Take out the quotations and the comma after 'him'.

1st In = am

 

[BSL]

1st in = an?

 

[Xivii]

Swiss knows I'm town, and Vandy and M-K should too.

 

[Xivii]

gawd yes bsl, my bad -.-

Cello I am right, and I'm sure of it. Just trust me and lynch M-K. You think you're the only scumhunter here, but you're not. If I'm wrong rPSI can vig me. If I'm right, you can investigate me if you see fit.

 

[BSL]

I'm not opposed to the MK lynch either.

 

[vanderzant]

Swiss knows I'm town, and Vandy and M-K should too.

To be quite honest I have no idea.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Mod: GLG probably deserves a prod right about now.
Make it an extra-hard one for me.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

This one is a real beauty.

You have an investigation ability that doesn't directly tell you any information, and you don't know how it works?! One that gives restrictions to townies, which would EASILY cause MOD votes to pile up?

Yeah. ****ing. Right.

In all fairness, this is at least the only explanation we've been offered by anyone about X1's post restriction.

Whether or not his ability claim is a lie, we know that his claim of giving X1 the restriction is entirely accurate. As town he's claiming it because it's his ability, and as scum he's claiming it because he knows it to be true. There's no reason for either faction of Zen to lie about giving X1 a restriction.

Townies who are on the fence, think about it from this perspective: what would an ability like town!Zen's actually be investigating? In the case of X1, giving him a post restriction could only mean that... what? He was masoned with J, who had the same restriction? So for town!Zen, this seems to be an entirely impractical ability. Regardless of the way it gives restrictions or whatever it does, the ability would be anti-town to begin with because it seems to out masonries.

Zen, since we have no evidence to the contrary that your ability isn't just some odd one that outs masonries, I'm curious why you're not pushing the idea that your night action was one of the actions that was punished, which might explain why we're seeing no outward signs from MK. Maybe you had no reason to consider that as a possibility, since you're scum? Food for thought.

 

[Swiss]

Zen can die. MK too.

I don't exactly have much a scum read on him, but he's not playing like normal Swiss.

Amuse me. What is 'normal' Swiss? You must be scraping the barrel if you're trying to get me lynched.

MK, you shouldn't have said that. You should have waited to see what Swiss said. Still...

Swiss, what is the name of your ability that granted you special information about X1?

It's not an ability. It's just information.

Why did you speak as though having mod information made your judgment better?

It confirmed my judgement was correct. Which it nearly always is.

What part of "Cello I'm town, stop being a douche and do as I say" do you not understand?

Lynch Zen and MK.

 

[Xivii]

@Nabe: I don't disagree. I don't think my role is very protown either. And based off yesterday I think it's probably completely useless. That's why I said my role sucked. I don't know what else to say about it. OS did something like this in has last game too. UTD was able to be go invisible for a day meaning he couldn't be voted for, but could vote on others. It's an anti-town like ability given to a town aligned player.

 

[Xivii]

And yes I do realize it could have not gone through because of the punishment. I asked OS about it yesterday, but I haven't gotten a responce. He never told me it didn't go through though as others said he has to them.

btw my role doesn't use the word "investigate" specifically. I don't really know what else to call it.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

What the hell are you talking about? "The way it did before"? Where was this?

Villans mafia. The slave crown was a day ability that was used on whoever is currently voting for that person.

 

[Xivii]

@Swiss: your normal play = loud & obnoxious obv? You're not playing that way, you're being backgroundy and it's weird. Your push on me is so fake. I didn't say I was trying to get you lynched. wat?

 

[Swiss]

KK.

Still want you dead.

I'm not as loud atm as I'm V/LA ish btw.

SO LOL UR SCUM

 

[M.K]

So lol about your reads <_<.
They're off. Fix that.

 

[Overswarm]

Giraffe has been prodded.

 

[giraffelasergun]

So I just read the entirety of what I missed at once and that was not fun.

This makes no sense.. You have just as much chance of making sure he is lynched by voting before L-1 as you do after. Actually waiting to just hammer instead of voting is worse..~.^

From my experience in playing most people are more hesitant to hammer then they are to say vote fourth or fifth.

-GLG has been playing weird, but I don't have as much of a read on him as I do with abeN. He's playing more active than what I've seen from him in the past though (where he was scum.) btw GLG what are your current thoughts on DH btw?

When this post was made I read him as noob town, but I'm not to sure anymore.

This is the only important thing that was said between you two?

We both claimed to each other as well.

I have a question for GiraffeLaserGun:

Are you Relm, yes or no?

Yes I'm relm. I thought I said this before I left but I guess I forgot. Also, once per night I can target someone and they'll use their ability on themselves. However, I have to quote that person and use the word "sketch, paint" etc. for this to work.

@Mod: GLG probably deserves a prod right about now.
Make it an extra-hard one for me.

It was very extra-hard.

Also, why is every voting for the indy right away as opposed to one of the mafia members?

P.s. Swiss if you have claimed already I may have missed it and if you have not claimed already I would really appreciate it if you claimed unless it made you feel uncomfortable.

 

[Swiss]

^ Informed Miller

 

[Swiss]

Lol no scum would claim miller so soon, amirite? Speshly loved clearing X1 when I KNEW he wasn't scum. Man I'm awesome as scum.

*Twiddles fingers*

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

• scum would claim miller if they were being investigated
• scum would know that X1's not scum
• scum twiddles fingers

 

[giraffelasergun]

I meant a full claim swiss.

 

[Swiss]

That was my point, Nabe.

Kappa town informed miller.

IIRC - which I do.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Why would InCom and I be uninformed Cops and Swiss be informed? Makes no sense.

Lynch Zen.

@GLG: Explain why you are attempting to sabotage my plans.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Oh, I thought we were a lot closer to lylo then we actually were, nvm.

Do you want me to be designated hammer Cello?

 

[Cello_Marl]

@GLG: Let's see...

First, he set himself up to target Tanny in #186. In retrospect, GLG's offer to hammer makes much more sense, so he could set up his target in the same post. Wait, in #521 you were going to have ME self-target? That was after I mentioned the all-target Strago thing, so maybe...was that your idea or SephMasa's?

Who did you target N1?

What were SephMasa's opinions on everyone in your QT prior to 11-17-2010, 03:09 PM?

 

[Cello_Marl]

@GLG: You can vote or hammer as you like, as long as it isn't against Dark Horse. But seriously, why are you trying to **** up my directions to Meta-Kirby? Why did you set it up so you could target him toNight? Also, who did you target N2?

 

[Cello_Marl]

Also, quote something of Dark Horse's and say "Sketch time wonderpants".

 

[Cello_Marl]

You're targeting Dark Horse toNight, btw. Probably a good idea if I told you that.

 

[giraffelasergun]

I was gone during d2 so I couldn't set up my ability to use an action n2.

Also, what I did on day one was try to quote multiple people in one post so that I could just be like "oh I'm targeting player X" and I didn't want my role to be too obvious to scum(this was back when I didn't know seph was scum).

Also, I misspoke earlier and by target oneself I mean I use player A's ability on Player A but player A can still target whoever. SephMasa's idea was for me to target him N1 but he died so I ended up going with Nabe.

I am not trying to ruin your game cello.