Do you think that playing as a female character needs more technical skill than playing as a male character because you can't rely on brute strength? For examle, you never see a Zela player using brute force to kill. Her most popular killing move is her kick, wich reqires precice accuracy. Keep in mind that there are no female heavyweights, and Superdoodleman uses Peach as a main.
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Females require more skill?
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isomorphism
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I think Sheik in Melee probably proves you wrong here.
Binx
Smash Master
I think Sheik in either game proves you wrong.
Demon Kirby
Smash Champion
All I have to... type.
Yes, Shiek does, but Shiek is more agressive than Zelda or Peach.
Monshou_no_Nazo
Smash Journeyman
I want to ask instead: Why is this important to you?
Sheik, Zelda, and Peach do not need more technical skill, in either game. Zelda has attacks that KO at under 100%. Zero Suit Samus' Side+B is insane. Samus is one of the heavier characters in Smash.
Your entire hypothesis is wrong.
Your entire hypothesis is wrong.
isomorphism
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I thought your point was about female characters, not aggressive characters. In fact, I just checked, and you never used the word "aggressive" at all in your initial post. You did use "Zela," "brute force," "brute strength," "precice accuracy," and "female heavyweights" (the last of these is not true, incidentally, since both Zelda and Samus are in pretty heavy weight classes).
Edit: I forgot "wich reqires" and "for examle."
Zelda's Lightning Kick is brute strength (if sweetspotted). Zelda is a character whose moves damage quite well and KO quite well as well. She's a brute strength female. Also, brute strength characters require skill.
Demon Kirby
Smash Champion
Now that I feel like not being an ***...
Zamus: FAir, side B, UAir
Jigglypuff (Melee): Rest and the wall of pain; not much technical skill required for Jiggs either
Peach (Melee): DSmash lololol, FAir, NAir, BAir
Zelda (Brawl): Din's Fire, Smashes, (Anything)Air
Sheik: ...
Marth: ...
Zamus: FAir, side B, UAir
Jigglypuff (Melee): Rest and the wall of pain; not much technical skill required for Jiggs either
Peach (Melee): DSmash lololol, FAir, NAir, BAir
Zelda (Brawl): Din's Fire, Smashes, (Anything)Air
Sheik: ...
Marth: ...
ytv
Smash Apprentice
I do not see why it would take more skill; it is all through the player.
Tomato Kirby
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Marth is definitely a male.
Kraut
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You are definitely wrong
Charizard92
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You guys joke about that one too much I swear (laughter). But really, while the females do have a couple of kill moves (provided that you count Jigglypuff the number will increase), but there isn't a straight forward approach (I think). Also, some people think Ivysaur is female (I don't, but this is my opinion) then your entire hypothesis is thrown out the window (usmash, duh).
ginobeeto
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Pretty In Pink
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Zelda, Marth, and Samus are definitely 'brute force' female characters. Just because they are female doesn't mean they are weaker than the males. This is a video game with talking rats and monkeys for crying out loud... It just depends on the player using them.
Crooked Crow
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Marth is CLEARLY a woman
To thread creator: what does SDM have to do with this LOL
To thread creator: what does SDM have to do with this LOL
ginobeeto
Smash Cadet
Marth isn't clearly a woman. Listen to his/her voice. Here is another picture of Marth.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Marth(anime).PNG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Marth(anime).PNG
Zodiac
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Yatta Dante plays zelda in both, and in both he uses nothing but brute strength to win,, peaches Back throw, Peaches Dsmash, Peachs fair, Peaches Nair. None of those are weak. I don't think that any of the female characters require more skill, well except sheik at advanced levels (In melee) because of how fast and precise you need to be with her. I haven't played brawl sheik in a while but she seemed to be just as easy to use as most of the other characters, Honestly I think it takes more to use peach in brawl than it does sheik in brawl.
Negi-Kun
Smash Lord
Well, Zelda owns now. Sheik, Zamus, and Peach will probably get low on the tiers now. With the exception of Nana 
no you are wrong
Kraut
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Charizard92
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Photo shop (duh, you just cut Marth's head and pasted it on ZSS)
Kraut
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I don't care if I'm wrong, I just wanted people's opinions if they were willing to share them.
He is an example that shows Peach is used by an advanced player.
GofG, who is currently banned for an epic post involving pure win, would like to ask if perhaps the original poster was implying that it takes more skill to do things involving females than do things involving brawl?
btw this is gofg's friend
btw this is gofg's friend
In Brawl I'd agree. In Melee, Samus was a beast and Shiek was really easy to get the hang of.
But in Brawl...Samus is so poor, you have to master Zair to be able to get anywhere. ZSS is so odd it requires a lot of technical skill to combo. Peach is probably the most technical character in the game and requires a lot of thought, and she outright sucks unless you have a LOT of practice. Shiek has no killing power unless you get creative, and Zelda's recovery takes a LOT of practice to master.
But in Brawl...Samus is so poor, you have to master Zair to be able to get anywhere. ZSS is so odd it requires a lot of technical skill to combo. Peach is probably the most technical character in the game and requires a lot of thought, and she outright sucks unless you have a LOT of practice. Shiek has no killing power unless you get creative, and Zelda's recovery takes a LOT of practice to master.
Charizard92
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Yeah, there are secret costumes (sarcasm). You know, Marth has a sword, and it would be a bit more convincing if you put one in there, and also, if you use photo shop on the trophy description, it would be even more convincing. And do you know what else, I just gave all the good ideas away, now you Can't joke about it anymore (sinister laughs)!
Kraut
Smash Apprentice
no jokes
there are secret costumes
fer realz
you have to be pro to get them though
guess you havent gotten that good yet =\
its okay princess martha will wait for you
Charizard92
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How do you get them, without action replay or glitching the game up or photo shop? There isn't huh?!
Kraut
Smash Apprentice
i told you, gotta be pro
im not supposed to give away the secret though.
its hush hush
im not supposed to give away the secret though.
its hush hush
Tonyman
Smash Journeyman
Charizard92, my friend, you have an amazing talent with the obvious, i'd give you some cookies for it...but just plain no. You should stop arguing about... now.
On Topic: I dont think so, i dont think the programmers would be that sexist to make female character more dificult to use, or weaker, depending on what the actualy point of the topic is.
On Topic: I dont think so, i dont think the programmers would be that sexist to make female character more dificult to use, or weaker, depending on what the actualy point of the topic is.
Thats just an excuse so you dont have to show proof
Mario & Sonic Guy
Old rivalries live on!
One thing that I do know is that pretty much all the female fighters can spam their smash attacks rather frequently. At times I've done over 100 smash attacks when using Peach.
~Master Geno~
Smash Rookie
It depends...... It all depends on your style of play.
Kraut
Smash Apprentice
well fine i wont show you my sources then. I would have asked them to make a post, but i guess you wont appreciate it.