Fastfall sweetspot!

[#HBC | Scary]

I've noticed that the chances of hitting with a sweetspot Bair, Fair, and Dair increase after fastfalling. Rarely does one of these not connect with a sweetspot after a quick fastfall. I thought that this would be some really useful info if anyone wanted to incorporate a shorthop attack style with Zelda because when it does connect it is so deadly, especially the spike; it kills 99% of the time regardless of damage when of the edge, but then edge hogging will finish them.

 

[Aeyr]

I've actually been doing this for quite a while now. As an opponent gets closer I tend to short hop then quickly fastfall while using the c-stick to either f-air or b-air and often, for me anyway, the hit will land.

 

[RoyalBlood]

I usually sweetspot Dair when the opponent is like in the middle of Zelda's Body

 

[SinkingHigher]

Assuming you use a GC controller, if you slide from X to A quickly, you can do the f-air right off the ground. This doesn't work with short opponents though.

I'll try doing with with the b-air though. Thanks for the info. : D

 

[popsofctown]

It is really really difficult for me to consistently short hop fast fall fairs and bairs. The main thing that gets me is inputting the down, i tend to input it before the peak of the jump, when it isn't allowed. even with that straight, it's difficult to get the drop on the jump at the right time, do the attack at the right time, move horizontally closer to the opponent (if necessary).

Am i alone?

 

[#HBC | Scary]

It is really really difficult for me to consistently short hop fast fall fairs and bairs. The main thing that gets me is inputting the down, i tend to input it before the peak of the jump, when it isn't allowed. even with that straight, it's difficult to get the drop on the jump at the right time, do the attack at the right time, move horizontally closer to the opponent (if necessary).

Am i alone?

Instead of fastfalling immediately, float in your shorthop for a second, like a G&W approach and then come with either the b-air or f-air. Give it a shot

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Assuming you use a GC controller, if you slide from X to A quickly, you can do the f-air right off the ground. This doesn't work with short opponents though.

I'll try doing with with the b-air though. Thanks for the info. : D

Good point. Usually with the shorties I have no choice but to get them on the way down so what I do is similar to a G&W approach with the turtle. Float a little in the shorthop than nail either the f-air or b-air after a quick fastfall. BAM! take that shorties!

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

pssh.... whi jumps using X? Up's the way to go man.

(no. you don't have to kill me, I realize I'm about the only one still using up to jump)

 

[#HBC | Scary]

I usually sweetspot Dair when the opponent is like in the middle of Zelda's Body

When they try to recover (depending on who the opponent) a SH d-air with a fastfall at the last second is devastating wherever it hits....even if its a toe that is hit lol

 

[S2]

pssh.... whi jumps using X? Up's the way to go man.

(no. you don't have to kill me, I realize I'm about the only one still using up to jump)

LOL to that.

I found during Melee that most people have a dedicated way of jumping (be it up, X, or Y) and that they can't understand how other people can stand jumping differently.

Probably whatever you learn on. Personally, I can't jump with up at all. I have to use X, I'm uncoordinated with Y or Up.

When I played in the GS tournament that made you use the nunchuck, I picked Olimar (because the recovery autotracks the edge) and stayed grounded the whole time. I could not jump attack or recover basically at all with those controls.

 

[SinkingHigher]

pssh.... whi jumps using X? Up's the way to go man.

(no. you don't have to kill me, I realize I'm about the only one still using up to jump)

I use both. But for the purposes of this move, sliding from X to A is much easier to time properly than using your left and right hands. imo.

 

[popsofctown]

Instead of fastfalling immediately, float in your shorthop for a second, like a G&W approach and then come with either the b-air or f-air. Give it a shot

I will. Thanks .

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

I use both. But for the purposes of this move, sliding from X to A is much easier to time properly than using your left and right hands. imo.

I use X to cancel peach's jump so that she'll glide on the ground. But otherwise, up always.

though ladders make me hate it so much. <_<

 

[Kricu]

I tend to switch from up to x to y. It really depends on what I'm doing and how much time I have to do it. I think I may switch the tap jump off though so I can utilt better.

 

[imdavid]

thanks for the info :] i can't land the sweetspot well, gotta work on it ^^

 

[Doodx]

nice find ill input it on my zelda which i have trouble doing it on pikachus