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Famitsu's review coming next week.

Mr. M

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I'd like to know how Famitsu, or any other game reviewer for that matter, can objectively review a game in such a short time, especially smash, which is known for its amazing replay value and advanced mechanics that aren't even discovered until months or even years later.

Because they can, will, and have to do a review, even if they cannot fully complete the game by the time they submit their review. It's their job.

I'm sure Brawl will get a stellar review. If it gets a perfect review, then that's nice I guess.
 

blayde_axel

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How can you guys rate the game when (most of) you haven't even payed it yet?
Because they are "guessing" what it's going to get.

I'm saying 38. And possibly because of the non-focus of Wii motion sensors. Apparently, it's big over there, and it kind of a slap-in-the-face that it's barely being used. But then again, do you really want to play Brawl forced to use motion sensor?
 

captainfalconmute

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the motion sensor will probably be used very little because gc and classic controllers dont use the motion sensor, and they wouldnt let you use those controllers if the motion sensor was a big part of the game (which in any case it shouldnt be)
 

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But isn't Famitsu a monthly magazine? They might just push off the review to next month's magazine, well after Brawl's launch. Not confirmed, so the title's a little misleading.
No, Famitsu is a weekly magazine, and their reviews each issue are for the games being released the following week.
 

Lone Spectator

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Do you guys know which day the magazine comes out exactly?

Anyway, Super Mario Galaxy recieved a 38/40 and Phantom Hourglass recieved a 39/40. Gametrailers, for example gave Hourglass an 8.9 and Galaxy a 9.8.

So Famitsu's review can mean anything.
 

Son Saku

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Do you guys know which day the magazine comes out exactly?

Anyway, Super Mario Galaxy recieved a 38/40 and Phantom Hourglass recieved a 39/40. Gametrailers, for example gave Hourglass an 8.9 and Galaxy a 9.8.

So Famitsu's review can mean anything.
Famitsu loves Wind Waker's series, after all they gave WW 40/40, even if it's more agreeable than Nintendogs' one.
I think it comes out around Tuesday/Wednesday.
 

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Do you guys know which day the magazine comes out exactly?
The street date is on a Friday, but as with anything sometimes they're out earlier.

The last issue was a double-issue because of the holidays, so there was no issue last week or this week. The next issue will be on the 18th.
 

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The street date is on a Friday, but as with anything sometimes they're out earlier.

The last issue was a double-issue because of the holidays, so there was no issue last week or this week. The next issue will be on the 18th.
No, there was actually an issue this week. NeoGAF and other places have already spilled the goodness on that.
 

LuigiTendo

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I am intrigued to see what they say. I imagine 38/40 to 40/40.

There's no room for errors. the game is ACTUALLY perfect. So, it deserves the perfect 40.

I HOPE there's new screens, and I for one, am indifferent to character spoilers. If I see em, okay. If I don't see em, okay. I don't mind, my friends will tell me if they see anything anyways. They'll see it, and call me and blab on the phone, so it doesn't matter to me
 

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No, there was actually an issue this week. NeoGAF and other places have already spilled the goodness on that.
Really? The Weekly Famitsu site is still advertising the double-issue. Are you sure it's Famitsu?
 

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Famitsu gave Sonic on the 360/PS3 30 something, and Nintendogs 40/40.

I don't really trust them, since they give good ratings they think will sell well, like anime games and non-games.

But I think it's safe to say it'll be 35 +, for sure. Melee's reviews weren't that "brilliant" so I wouldn't see why Brawl's should be too much better.

Although since being out Melee has become much more of a legacy, I think if all reviewers were to give it a second opinion, they'd be higher.
 

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Really? The Weekly Famitsu site is still advertising the double-issue. Are you sure it's Famitsu?
Indeed. Two of the things that took center stage this week, were the announcements for Gundam Musou Special (an upgrade of Dynasty Warriors Gundam) being released for the PS2 (yes, no typo, you read that right!), as well as a new SRW OG game being released for the DS.

The site is behind though, because among other things, technically, the street date for the issue ain't until tomorrow.
 

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I hate to put it this way, but i dont think Smash brothers is made for critics... ( the reason i dont want to put it that way: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/24 )

I mean, the old melee game got an 8.9 on gamespot, and one of their reasons for lowering the score is that they thought that the controls were "hyperresponsive". This is the kind of thing that might cause a casual gamer to not like the game as much, because the game's hyperresponsiveness might take some getting used to so it wont have the same feel as a normal fighting game. Also they got a lower score for the single player. Im sorry, but Melee was not made for the SINGLE PLAYER, and the hyperresponsiveness, although maybe not ideal for casual gamers, is in my opinion one of the things that draws people towards playing this game as avidly as most of us here do. I played the original SSB the other day and i lost to a 13 year old kid who hadnt played it in 2 years. It felt like a chess game because it was so slow, and i had no idea where the moves sent someone, and after i pressed the button i felt like i was just watching my character go in the wrong direction without me being able to do anything about it... Plus, how can you lower the review of a FIGHTING game or its SINGLE player anyway? Almost no fighting games have good single player, and id say that melee's single player is much better than the average.

Anyway, the thing is, even if the single player is simply good, and could not stand on its own and be a good game, and even if the online sucks and has no purpose, and even if it feels off, or if the characters seem imbalanced to the critics, i think that the smash comminity will be able to review it better than any critic out there. Almost half the characters in the last game had enough parity to be able to compete with each other (top, high, mid all seemed to at least have some chance of winning the whole thing, and low, bottom had extremely low chance although possible...). We will see if its true of this game, or if in the end one of the characters is much better than the rest. None of us were going to use online regularly anyway. Hardcore smashers cant deal with lag, and even if they say that the online is great, we may not think it is. Maybe we will. The point is, that from OUR perspective, we cant possibly believe what critics say, because they are playing a completely different game than we are.
 

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I'm going to have to agree, this game isn't always about the score. I do look forward to the myraid of new leaks though.
 

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it deserves... OVER 9 THOU-*gets punched in the face*. Brawl could get a 40/40 if a fighting games fan were reviewing, but Nintendogs is the best... in the virtual pet catagory. which last time I checked isn't that large.
 

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It's been two years since Famitsu has given a score of 40/40 and the last one was Final Fantasy XII. I believe that Brawl isn't as comparable to Final Fantasy XII or Nintendogs simply because it isn't revolutionary like the other games. SSE and online play will only boost Brawl up a few points, but I definitely think that Famitsu will grade harshly on the lack of wiimote functionality and the lack of any major change in gameplay (why fix something that isn't broken anyway?)

I personally believe that Brawl will blow me out of the water and would deserver a 40/40 on Famitsu (which would also make it the seventh game EVER to recieve a perfect). I just don't think they're gonna give us the score we want though, probably 36-39
 

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This topic shouldn't talk about the review score because we all know Famitsu review score is a joke and all just a complete fan service.


Every ****ty Gundam game for the PS3 that got 2/10 in USA got 8/10 in Famitsu.
 

Garuda

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You watch-- this game will be torn apart by critics because of no wavedashing... assuming they're hardcore that is.
 

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If this game doesn't get at least a 41/40, I'm totally not trusting Famitsu ever again.
 

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Clearly they rate things differently, so it won't really reflect how the American reviews go. But hopefully, in both cases, it will be a perfect score.

I expect no less from Sakurai's last Smash Bros project.
 

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supposed last SSB project...he said the same thing about Melee...methinks...
 

Otori Warrior

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There is a lot of bad judgment flying around in this thread.
1. How can you rate a game you haven't played?
2. Why can't Brawl score lower than Melee?
3. Reviews of games of this nature never really capture the true value of the game. Because the best aspects of Brawl are the multiplayer and the replay ability, often tradition reviews will not do them justice.

I honestly do not care what the "traditional" reviews of the game say. If brawl gets bashed for having a poor storyline or bad presentation... who cares? This game is all about the gameplay and the characters. If they get that right then anyone should be satisfied with this game.
 

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Famitsu isn't trustworthy. I don't know why so many people think so... I wouldn't guess what they'll give it, but rather what western reviewers would give it, i.e. I'm thinking 8 or 9/10, or 95%s etc.

Unless the curse of Sonic is real, making this game 100% unable to get over 60% in a review.
 

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just because a game gets a perfect score doesnt mean its a perfect game. if nintendogs is a perfect game, then why don't i want to go out and buy it right now, why doesnt every child above the age of 5 own a copy? because the game is not perfect. a perfect game would be flawless, there can be nothing wrong with it at all, and it should appeal to all demographics, but it doesnt. brawl on the other hand is trying to. im not trying to put down nintendogs, im sure its a good game, but isnt it possible that they graded it a little easier cuz its on the DS? maybe its really good for a handheld game, but if it were a direct port straight to the wii it wouldnt get a perfect score, bcuz they would expect more from an actual console. its silly to compare brawl and nintendogs, we nav no idea of the sheer scope of the game yet. i havent played brawl but imo its already better than nintendogs and deserves a 40/40, but it prob wont get one.
 

SmashALLSTAR

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They gave it that score because Nintendogs's probably perfect for the audience it's aimed towards. Anyone looking for a dog sim, Nintendogs is your game.
 

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Famitsu isn't trustworthy. I don't know why so many people think so... I wouldn't guess what they'll give it, but rather what western reviewers would give it, i.e. I'm thinking 8 or 9/10, or 95%s etc.

Unless the curse of Sonic is real, making this game 100% unable to get over 60% in a review.
lol, Sonic Rush got a good rating :p
 

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We will just have to wait and see.

Famitsu is the most biased reviewer on the face of the planet. They make the Gamespot/Twilight Princess fiasco look like child's play.

They tend to either judge overly hard, or give games with clear flaws perfect scores.

That being said, they may give Brawl a perfect score. Not because its flawed, but because Melee got such a high score already (37) and in terms of content and innnovation, Brawl is a marked improvement.

Its probably the most hyped game worldwide anyways.
 

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I actually don't want to see this because of the score, but how they think the game has work. Like, say how coin launcher works. Whether it's fun or tedious. I'll definitely be glued if it has character spoilers.
 

brawl.admin

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I just hope reviewers take the "its old" route, and take off points for that. I mean sure the gameplay is the same as Melee, but Sakurai has added so much to this game that really it should be two games. I mean compare it other fighters, like Mortal Kombat. Its the same game over and over, but with minor improvements. Smash Bros comes out once every 6 years and is the best game it can be.
 

OrlanduEX

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just because a game gets a perfect score doesnt mean its a perfect game. if nintendogs is a perfect game, then why don't i want to go out and buy it right now, why doesnt every child above the age of 5 own a copy? because the game is not perfect. a perfect game would be flawless, there can be nothing wrong with it at all, and it should appeal to all demographics, but it doesnt. brawl on the other hand is trying to. im not trying to put down nintendogs, im sure its a good game, but isnt it possible that they graded it a little easier cuz its on the DS? maybe its really good for a handheld game, but if it were a direct port straight to the wii it wouldnt get a perfect score, bcuz they would expect more from an actual console. its silly to compare brawl and nintendogs, we nav no idea of the sheer scope of the game yet. i havent played brawl but imo its already better than nintendogs and deserves a 40/40, but it prob wont get one.
A perfect scoring game isn't necessarily one that has no flaws or one that appeals to all demographics.
Everyone has different tastes. There is no game that has ever been made that appeals to all gamers. It's impossible. No matter how good a game is, there will be those that are indifferent to it or outright dispise it. Take Halo for example. Many shooter fans take Halo 2 or 3 as the best shooter ever made. But personally, I don't really care about Halo, because I don't care about shooters.
Also, no matter how good a game is, there will be those who will find flaws in it. A perfect score just says that the REVIEWER sees nothing wrong with the game, but that's just one person's opinion.
 
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