Falcon Footstool!

[Yung Mei]

I figured we should get a discussion started on footstooling.

I have a few setups i had been practicing, but im going to get a writeup done on them and post them later here

 

[SpiderMad]

So you mapped your taunt to one of the jumps?

 

[Yung Mei]

hell no, i need both my jump buttons - i wish it was possible to add a second jump option in custom controls as Jump/Footstool instead of taunt though

 

[SinisterB]

First hit of FF NAir -> Footstool can be used to set up a Knee if you get the hard fall, or possibly another FF NAir to repeat the process. The timing is really strict though and I'm not sure who it legitimately works on other than like ROB lol. Hard fall is key, if you're bouncing off their head then it's too slow. I've gotten it on a bunch of characters just messing around, but yeah not sure how feasible it really is.

Similar to his infinite in Brawl, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkv6zazgGH4

Potato quality sucks but you should be able to see the gist of it.

Oh and Footstool -> Falcon Kick is kinda cool


ps. Y button footstool master race

 

[Yung Mei]

FANFUS (iirc, its what it was called) Loop is hard as **** to do, i haven't been able to replicate it myself.

u/dThrow to footstool can work sometimes, its amazing as **** for mindgames, just the opponents reaction speaks for itself lmao

 

[SinisterB]

Yeah it's called FANFUS, wasn't sure if anyone would catch that if I mentioned it.

But yeah peoples reactions are the best sometimes, footstooling airborn Bowser is gold. Although I usually just opt for aerials out of throws cause Falcon's punishes are pretty fat.

 

[Yung Mei]

i was a brawl falcon main myself, so ive been trying lately to perform his Brawl stuff in PM

i've been able to get the Rule 34 Combo, but only like once, its another toughie

 

[standardtoaster]

rule 34 combo?

 

[Yung Mei]

too lazy to look up the thread, but basically this former player, RULE 34 figured out a possible zero-death/gimp in brawl that worked at low percents against some characters

IIRC, it was something like, dThrow->uAir->Footstool


EDIT - the thread
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=267957

 

[SinisterB]

oh no wonder your name looked so familiar

i totally used to second Falcon in Brawl so i lurked the boards hella

hai

 

[Tech-Nelium the Shark]

not sure if this still work but in brawl i believe you can footstool someone in their shield and it takes them out of their shield. So a footstool>ffed 1st hit of nair> grab might work.

 

[SinisterB]

Someone who shields a FS is unaffected while the footstooler still gets the hop, like when someone is FSed during an attack. Can be useful sometimes but in this case nope.

At least I think so, anyways.

 

[standardtoaster]

yeah, that's how it is

 

[Ace55]

Personally I would've gone with 'Captain Footstool' d:.

 

[Yung Mei]

im really sorry that i havent updated the thread, ive barely touched falcon since i picked up GnW in february


ill try and start working on this as soon as i can

 

[MrButterFuzz]

I found some useful ways to use cf's footstool.

http://youtu.be/t4SroCPRFB0

 

[BryE]

I found some useful ways to use cf's footstool.

http://youtu.be/t4SroCPRFB0

Both were pretty cool, however I feel as if you could have just knee'd Lucario after the stomp without footstooling.

Footstooling the opponent is just giving them another chance to tech out of a situation that was already bad for them. Especially since Lucario was already at a high percentage in both clips when you initiated the footstool. And normally, when I see people using footstools, I find that people disregard whatever horrible situation that their opponent is in just to get a flashy setup for a kill (the flashy setup in this case is footstooling).
Yeah it looks cool but there are better options to do besides footstooling. And there's a chance that your opponent will tech out of the footstool.

In my opinion, I don't see many uses for utilizing toadstooling with Falcon. If you're in a position where your opponent is at higher percentages then it's best to just use Dair > Knee.
Maybe you can use it on spacies after a dthrow from the ledge as a gimp? I'm not sure.

 

[GeZ]

Both were pretty cool, however I feel as if you could have just knee'd Lucario after the stomp without footstooling.

Footstooling the opponent is just giving them another chance to tech out of a situation that was already bad for them. Especially since Lucario was already at a high percentage in both clips when you initiated the footstool. And normally, when I see people using footstools, I find that people disregard whatever horrible situation that their opponent is in just to get a flashy setup for a kill (the flashy setup in this case is footstooling).
Yeah it looks cool but there are better options to do besides footstooling. And there's a chance that your opponent will tech out of the footstool.

In my opinion, I don't see many uses for utilizing toadstooling with Falcon. If you're in a position where your opponent is at higher percentages then it's best to just use Dair > Knee.
Maybe you can use it on spacies after a dthrow from the ledge as a gimp? I'm not sure.

This might come off as stupid but honestly half of the appeal of Falcon, at least to me, is how fancy he is. I think going for the fancy setup for the kill is really the fun in playing Falcon. I get that playing a functional Falcon is better than playing a Flashy Falcon, but if people played more of the former rather than the latter you'd have a lot less wall jump Knee's, or off stage Reverse Falcon Pawnch for the game. And, when it comes down to it, it's that stuff that really kicks the matches up a notch.

 

[Ace55]

Maybe you can use it on spacies after a dthrow from the ledge as a gimp? I'm not sure.

Dropzone footstool? Sounds pretty hype!

 

[Strawhat09]

I found some useful ways to use cf's footstool.

http://youtu.be/t4SroCPRFB0

You're a Falcon main in Texas? Are you going to Low Tier City?

 

[DMG]

I will be there and I'm sorta a Falcon main?

 

[MrButterFuzz]

You're a Falcon main in Texas? Are you going to Low Tier City?

Real good feedback guys. thanks @strawhat I am a falcon main but I'm alright. I started picking up this game since PM came out. I'm no melee falcon main. Love the game though. I think I have off that weekend so I might be making it to Low Tier City.

 

[Psychoace]

Dropzone footstool? Sounds pretty hype!

Are drop zones fixed? 2.5 dropzones were impossible, at least on spacies.

Sure is Texas falcon in here...

 

[Strawhat09]

People saying there have always been dropzones in 2.5 but I also disagree. I can hardly land any.

 

[Comeback Kid]

I love the idea someone came up with in another thread a while ago of having footstools bypass shields to make them a useful mix-up option without being too powerful either since your opponent can usually act out of being footstooled before you can capitalize on it.

 

[MeechMan64]

I´ve tried different layouts and found that mapping L for my up taunt/footstool button works the best for me considering the only time I used L in Melee was for Out of Shield Wavedash.

 

[GeZ]

I´ve tried different layouts and found that mapping L for my up taunt/footstool button works the best for me considering the only time I used L in Melee was for Out of Shield Wavedash.

I'm more of a fan of using x for it since I only use Y to jump but I can see how L could work if you never use it.