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Fair - spike or meteor smash?

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j3ly

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For those who don't know spikes and meteor smashes are different.
- You can upB (or meteor cancel) out of a meteor smash.
- Spikes send you down with no chance of meteor cancelling until its too late.

For example Falco's Dair is almost a meteor smash until around 50%, in the way that you can upB efficiently without loss of stock. After 50% even if your timing is perfect, l8iaz.


The Question:
What % does Mario's Fair become a spike? I'm sure i've caned a CP Boozer down at like 300% and hes come back, but i'm also pretty sure i've caned him down at like 100% with no recovery.

:confused:

Isit possible for the move to spike between certain percentages, or maybe it depends on the opponents jump? Perhaps when (if) it does become a spike, it can still be JC'd out of.
:dizzy:
Or maybe the move isn't a spike at any point lol.
 

ArcNatural

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Mario's fair is able to be meteor canceled at all times. As in, you can double jump or upB out of it if you have good timing always.
 

xMosmo

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Falco's dair isnt a meteor smash period, its just the hitstun wears off and you become able to jump again at really low percents. same with marf.

ArcNatural covered mario's fair, haha.
 

bahamutz69

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the reason ur bowser meteor canceled it was just by chance
sometimes coms MC and sometimes they dont

marios fair is always a meteor smash and is always MCable
basically
 

condemned_soul

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I say it depends on who you are playing.....if you play some random noob then it can be at 0%.....while other people that are good i would say 60% to be safe
 

Jihnsius

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For those who don't know spikes and meteor smashes are different.
- You can upB (or meteor cancel) out of a meteor smash.
- Spikes send you down with no chance of meteor cancelling until its too late.
qft
Don't you love when things like this are discovered 20 years after the game's release?
 
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