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F-smash on top of the BF platforms

BBoyindo

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Foreword.
Ok so when like a month ago, someone asked if someone could make a list about this, and since i'm such a nice person (lol) i decided to make it. Omg so enlightening!

Notes:
-Marth’s Fsmash doesn’t have a hitbox at the highest part of the arch (the part that you can see going above the platforms on BF).
-Kill percents when the F-smash shoots them backwards, or forwards, are the same.
-Kill percents may vary a bit, since it is tested without DI, and I didn’t spend too much time on it.
-Kill percents were tested when the character on top of the platform was directly above the circle on the ground.


Metaknight:metaknight::
- Metaknight is hard to tipper a F-smash on that will send him flying forward. If you stand a little bit next to him and F-smash it wont tipper and it will send him forward.
- If you stand directly under him, a F-smash will tipper and send him backwards. This is quite easy to space.
- When he is laying on top of the platform, the same things apply to him of when he is in standing position.

Kill percents:
Off stage: 44%
Towards the stage: 70%

Difficulty: Normal / Easy


King Dedede:dedede::
- If you’re standing with your head bordering his body, a F-smash will tipper and send him forward.
- If your standing directly under him, a F-smash towards his hammer side will tipper and send him backwards.
-When standing under his foot at the hammer side, a F-smash towards the other side will tipper and send him backwards.
- When DDD is laying on top of the platform, a F-smash will tipper and send him forward if you are standing under his head or feet. Going a little bit more to the centre will make him fly backwards.
- When DDD does his Super Jump thing (Up-B) and he lands on one of the platforms, stand a little bit next to it and F-smash. It will tipper and send him forward.

Kill percents:
Off stage: 56%
Towards the stage: 88%

Difficulty: Easy


Snake:snake::
- To shoot Snake Forward, you have to stand under his back foot, or at the tip of his front foot. The places you have to stand are very small with Snake.
- It’s not possible to make Snake fly backwards with a F-smash
- When he is laying on top of the platform, a F-smash will send him flying backwards if you are standing in the centre of his body.
- When he is laying down, standing under his feet or his head will make a F-smash tipper and send him forward.

Kill percents:
Off stage: 56%
Towards the stage: 89%

Difficulty: Normal / Hard


Donkey Kong:dk2::
- You can’t hit this frikkin monkey at all!
- When he is laying on the platform, you can hit him though. When you’re standing just a little bit more towards DK then when standing under his feet, a F-smash will tipper and send him forward, otherwise it will not. Standing under his head will make a F-smash tipper as well, also sending him forward.
- The F-smash won’t tipper most of the time, because DK is so big.

Kill percents:
Off the stage: 54%
Towards the stage: DK has a different lay-down stance when he is shot up higher in the air. Therefore, I could not get my F-smash to tip easily. So go for off the stage kills. 93%

Difficulty: Hard as ****


Diddy Kong:diddy::
- When standing under his front foot, a F-smash towards his other foot will tipper and send him backward. When standing a little bit next to it, Diddy will fly forward.
- When standing next to his back foot, a F-smash will tipper and send him forward.
- While Diddy is laying down, a F-smash will tipper and send Diddy forward when standing under his cap, or his legs.
- When Diddy is laying on the platform, a F-smash when standing under his belly will send him backwards.

Kill percents:
Off the stage: 49%
Towards the stage: 78%

Difficulty: Normal


Bowser:bowser2::
- You can basically hit him when you are standing under one of his feet.
- Standing under the border of his foot closest to Bowser’s centre and F-smashing will send him flying backwards.
- Standing under any other part of his foot will send him flying forward.
- Bowser has like four different ways of lying down, a bit difficult to test the F-smashing. Just stand a little bit on the side of him and the F-smash should connect, even though it probably wont tipper.

Kill percents:
Off the stage: 58%/59%
Towards the stage: 91%

Difficulty: Easy


Peach:peach::
- When your head is under the border of her dress, of if it is right next to it when inside the dress, an F-smash will tipper and send her backwards.
- When standing with your head next to the border of Peach’s dress next to her, a F-smash will tipper and send her forward.
- When peach is lying on top of the platform, a F-smash when standing next to her head will tipper and send her forward.
- When Peach is laying on the platform, and you are standing in the centre of Peach, a F-smash towards her head will tipper and send her backwards. A F-smash towards her feet will not tipper, and it’ll send her forwards.
- An F-smash when standing next to her feet if she’s laying on the platform will not tipper, and it’ll send her forward.

Kill Percents:
Off the stage: 49%
Towards the stage: 78%

Difficulty: Normal / Hard


Mario:mario2::
-Doesn’t hit directly under him (between his legs)
-When standing under his under one of his feet (under the nose for the side he’s looking at, and just at the border of the foot for the other side), a F-smash towards the other side will tipper and send him backwards.
-When Marth’s head is directly next to Mario’s front foot the F-smash will tipper and send him forward.
-When Marth’s body is directly next to his back foot the F-smash will send Mario flying forward.
-When Mario is laying on top of the platform the F-smash will connect if you stand under him.

Kill percents:
Off stage: 51%
Towards the stage: 81%

Diffuculty: Normal



Luigi:luigi2::
-Doesn’t hit directly under him (between his legs)
-When standing under one of his feet (directly under the leg) and Fsmashing towards Luigi will send him to the other side.
-When the side of Marth’s head borders Luigi’s foot, the F-smash will tipper and send them forward.
-When Luigi is laying on top of the platform, standing in the middle of him an F-smash will tipper and send him backward. Standing so that your head is right next to his feet or head and F-smashing will tipper and make him fly forward. When standing inside his head or feet, an F-smash will not tipper, but it will send them flying forward. Don’t use it though.

Kill percents:
Off stage: 52%
Towards the stage: 81%

Diffuculty: Normal / Easy


You know what? I'm bored, lets make tiers!

Hard tier
:dk2:


Normal / Hard tier
:snake:
:peach:


Normal tier
:diddy:
:mario2:


Normal / Easy tier
:metaknight:
:luigi2:


Easy tier
:dedede:
:bowser2:


Testing this is boring as hell, i'll update it later.
 

AndrewCarlson

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Wolf is very difficult to tip as well. Not only do you have to be standing in the exact position, he also has to be in the upright phase of his standing animation.
 

AndrewCarlson

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That's true but remember, the standing animation will not change after 5 seconds, and i doubt that will happen in a match:)
Well, there's still the swaying motion post shield-break. That's usually the only chance for a fully charged F-smash tipper, but I usually hesitate to try that in a real match due to the large marin for error.
 

Steel

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ike is hard tier

i think i tried testing vs him a few weeks ago, the sweet spot is very small with him
 
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