Extremely Useful Inormation Regarding Grenades. Edit: And Nikita

[Zjiin]

Cooking the gernade then shielding for the counter is an amazing find. What caused it to not work? Man, I'm stoked about this, a make-shift counter-attack. Hats off.

HP

Yeah shield grenades are really useful. A good trick i get a lot of people with is to drop a granade, roll back, and then dash attack through it. You'll pick it up on the way to them, and you can just shield once you get there.

 

[Race]

This might have been asked before but, just to make sure . .. Can you attack while holding a grenade? like any normal attack? thanks

 

[Wind Owl]

No. Either you're in lobbing stance or holding it as an item.

 

[zB.]

I'm a huge fan of shield grenades, and they're awesome for territorial control (on top of the mines and all that). I do dislike that if your holding one and you get hit with a projectile it blows up in your face. This makes it kinda hard to cook them playing against anyone with a projectile.

The nikitas though, just... wow. Maybe I've only played against people who absolutely suck (very possible), but the guided missiles are absolutely amazing. The fact that they are a projectile shield is great for camping, and the fact that they can be dropped by canceling them or stalled with turning creates a ton of mindgame opportunities. When used right, the nikita can be an absolute pain to effectively avoid without your opponent totally going out of their way.

 

[chumlord]

this is very useful.....keep up the good work.....

 

[Jango]

Thank you!

 

[Whiteface]

This is one of the most interestingly useful things i've heard yet.

 

[sweetooth]

About the nikita... We were playing last night and I fired a nikita at Lucario's fully charged blast. All it did was change the direction of the missle like you stated. the next hit however, caused the nikita to explode

 

[abit_rusty]

Q: Is dropping a nade different from tossing it? (when you say dropping a nade in shield, how exactly do you do that?).

 

[hoopspr226]

One "projectile" the missile won't go through/around is pikmin.

When pikmin collide with the missile the missile explodes

(I am pretty sure about this, but by all means, someone test this to confirm?)

 

[Jeff Highwind]

One "projectile" the missile won't go through/around is pikmin.

When pikmin collide with the missile the missile explodes

(I am pretty sure about this, but by all means, someone test this to confirm?)

Yea I've encountered that problem as well. Who would've thought a missile's biggest foil would be that...thing?

 

[nike942]

Nikta tricks are fun

The nade tip is super useful for mind games, heres another thing I've been doing with great success with Snake thus far.

The Nikta as you all know can be put away and canceled by shielding, this can be used to EXTREME advantage as the missile is still live whenever it hits something (the missile falls straight to the ground as the launcher is put away). As such, the Nikta can be even more useful for stage guarding than before, (Player or cancel it near the ledge)Jjust plain using cancels while the nikta rocket is floating around the air, along with C4, Usmash, Dsmash, and Nades, make for some great mix-ups.

 

[IShotLazer]

Thats is so wrong..... so so wrong. I found out about that also a couple days ago and it is what I used against pit, sonic, pikachu players that were attack happy. O well nice find though.

 

[IShotLazer]

And yes the only thing that I have seen the nikita get destroyed by is pikmin but I'm pretty sure that the reason is because it's counting as another player or creature thus blowing it up. I'm also pretty sure it destroys the pikmin as well but they are pretty disposable anyway. My friend does this to me a lot.

 

[sweetooth]

Q: Is dropping a nade different from tossing it? (when you say dropping a nade in shield, how exactly do you do that?).

just shield and it drops automatically

 

[Fafnir]

I love the Nikita. Cancelling it in mid flight is great for hitting enemies right below without turning it, and can also be used to set up a delay to fool around with people who expect it to hit at a certain moment, and only block for said moment. And if you fly it high enough, you can get your enemy to forget about it until it falls back at the most inoppurtune time for them.

 

[abit_rusty]

Nikita kill on my bro's ROB today. He was trying to sweetspot the ledge on FD from below, I dropped the nikita and it staged spiked him

 

[Fafnir]

Yeah, nothing ****s with people like a dropped Nikita.

 

[Depressed Man]

One "projectile" the missile won't go through/around is pikmin.

When pikmin collide with the missile the missile explodes

(I am pretty sure about this, but by all means, someone test this to confirm?)

Makes sense since Pikmin are technically alive. Any attack can hurt them when they're away from Olimer (it's how you get them off you).

 

[Yunaleskamodern]

snake's rolento based gameplay is extremely useful. Grenade dodge is too good