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Epic... Rap... BATTLES OF HISTORY!!! OVER GUESS WHICH SIDE WON

Kataefi

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soz i'm here. @marshy: i don't know why i'm calling you a stupid ho... it's like when i used to call summoner the young guru summoner... it just flows =D

dietz is a play toDay. he's yet to answer my questions... circus/j/dietz are potential scumscumz. not quite sure who i'm ready to lynch and i think restlessness is bad in a situation like this with all this talk of mylo. there's like 6 days... circus needs to claim. j needs to be pressured because i think there is a lot to cover that I'm having problemos with. dietz needs to answer my questions also.

can you answer my q?

@ran to be honest i don't know. i'd be more curious had marshy joined me immediately, cos he stated he thinks dietz is scum instead and has expressed interest in his lynch. what are you thoughts?
 

Kataefi

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also sidenote: i was more inactive in TT, soup did the majority of posting except in lylo where i came out more when the activity of the thread was far less than it explosively was before
 

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My opinion is that he doesn't want to vote JK. He asked Zen originally for "the play" yet switched to you because of a promise he made. He then doesn't fulfill his promise. I feel his switch was him being unsure that he'd be able to follow Zen's play. Yet he doesn't follow you either? What the heck is he waiting for...

Sure he has expressed a scumread on JD but he has also done so with KWK and DSH, and hasn't pushed as actively as I would have liked.

I just feel he is just waiting for the opportunity to hop on a wagon willy nilly and I don't like it. Sure it's mylo but that doesn't mean he should just sit there.

I wouldn't push onto Marshy unless I saw scumflips from J > Circus first.

Also I wouldn't really be comfortable lynching JD before one of those two. Mostly because of how Kary interacted with Gard D1, whiteknighting him.
 

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also sidenote: i was more inactive in TT, soup did the majority of posting except in lylo where i came out more when the activity of the thread was far less than it explosively was before
Ah ok makes sense. I couldn't tell which was which. :mad:
 

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Hey JK can you substantiate your town read on Marshy for me plz? :3
 

JayKay

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@Kata: I don't think you should be voting us to put pressure on. Use a FoS or something, I know you have your suspicions of us, but I just don't think it's safe to be voting in these waters.

In fact
Unvote
because I think we voted No Lynch.

@Ran: I'm really hoping your going to push some sort of case on us soon? Because while I can 'feel' your vote on us, I don't know what we're supposed to do about that. You kind of ask us questions but don't really talk with us... I don't know, it seems like you're testing to see what will waggon :(

I've got to re-read the claiming fiasco :/
 

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Alright sure i'll give you a case. But first you'll have to answer my question. Also talk to me about me not wanting to talk to you? If you'd like to chat, I'm right here.
 

Kataefi

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i'm still here but i'm going on lunch. i'll be back in like an hour. mariah kary can i get a breakdown of your reads? who's looking scum to you? how are you and j dealing with conflicting reads?
 

JayKay

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@Ran:
Marshy's play seems like, super-obvious (as in it seems really clear what he's doing), and the only scummy thing I can really put against him is who he's voted for. I wouldn't say that he's super town, but I don't have good reason to doubt him, and I can see some town intent in most of the things he does.

Ran, I don't have anything I particularly want to talk about, even though some of your play has been really quite confusing to me. The reason I want us to talk is because you seem to have a real strong scum read on us, but I feel like the questions you're asking don't really tie into that... Like if you wanted to be sure we were scum, why don't you ask other players about things we've done, rather than just asking if they will vote us? Also I'm concerned that you're still following No Lynch, and whether he's town or not I don't think that's a good idea :(
 

#HBC | marshy

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Other rappers ain't compatible, they be fallible
If you wanna challenge me with a battle we better saddle up
I work for battlers, seal it by pittlin pattilin
Tittling tattling rattle them 'till they had enough
I'm spreadin' that spark, and pick up a verse in a heartbeat
Have a sit in the star seat, while I make you to mince-meat
Get back 'cause you know you can't take my heat
Just give it up and sit back down in your car-seat
oh word son?

your rappings unbearable, absolutely deplorable
the words you spit are heinous and piss, so ima just dismiss
YO RHYMES out this thread
cuz you failed to use your head
and were clearly misled
think youd come out on top instead?
we all know that spots for me, its far too easy
to stomp you into the ground
at the end of the day ima take this pound for pound
so get da **** outta hear cuz you look like a clown
 

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@ kary

why are you so sad all the time? your beaten up half dead kenny avatar...constant use of sad smileys...
 

No Lynch

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This setup confuses me. We have a backup flipped (to whom we don't know) and a backup to a cop claimed but no confirmation of the actual role yet and that's what I want right now. I'm a little skeptical of Jdietz role, but I'll explain that one later. I'm listing things right now for my own sake and I need to rethink some things:

Jdietz - Darth Vader, town bodyguard
NL - Master Chief, town deputy
JK - VT
Ran - sleepwalking townie

Flipped:
KWK - Hulk Hogan, town backup (to what is unknown)
Gheb - Lady Gaga town FBI agent
DSH - William Shakespeare, VT
Roxy - Easter Bunny, Town miller

Unclaimed:
Circus
Kata
JTB
Mashy
Inferno

The setup is wonky for sure. I actually don't know if the rest of the claims will help us or make my head hurt.
Here's my headcanon -

3 VTs
1 Miller
1 Passive(Sleepwalker)
2 Investigatives (Cop + FBI)
2 Backups (Deputy + Universal)

(1 Bodygaurd)

1 Roleblocker
2 goons
1 special indy ****ery who doesn't have a kill (maybe survivor)

I think the Universal likely was a back-up to the FBI, sometimes Back-ups aren't informed as to what they back-up. I'm still highly in belief that we have a cop roaming around or some other sort of investigative, I truly don't think this game is all a red herring and I think it revolves around misinformation, I agree with Zen that I don't think there is a protective.
 

No Lynch

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Possible of a watcher/tracker too with the sleepwalker but hey this is all mod flavor

I don't think with such a defensive town that Gorf would go out of his way to Combine a situation of GF + Roleblocker, I think scum only has one PR and two would just be highly unbalanced considering one of the flipped investigative only helps detect an indy.
 

JayKay

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@Kata:
You are super-defensive lately, and you have barely pushed your other reads at all. We will get to you!
You are pushing us over little things and it is dumb. :c

If J and I don't agree on a read, then we'll talk about it. Our reads don't really conflict because we don't have any strong reads that oppose one another.

Here's my reads in short:
Ran seems town overall, and some of his posts seem super-town, but I can't really see his train of thought and dislike some of his reads :ohwell:
Kataefi: You were super-town for me early Day 1, but ever since you hammered KWK I have come to suspect you... You don't seem to be that involved in the game, have been acting pretty defensive throughout, and I can't see much townie intent from you :/
JDietz: I dislike his play but I can see him being town. He is so tied up with No Lynch though, which is affecting my read... their play is so defensive, not seeing much town intent, overall a scum lean now.
No Lynch: Their play screams indie, but that's WIFOM. Really dislike their play, and every time I see an inkling of town intent they go and balls it up in the next post. Their pushes are what make me confident they're scum... their posts are 98% bull.
Circus: I really like his play, apart from not having got a solid read on him yet; just like DH I need a bit more. Slight scum lean, but not in my playbook right now. Would be pushing him if there wasn't so much other dumb stuff going on.
Inferno: Mostly town, I think he's going overboard in trying to help town, but I can't really see anything that suggests scum intent.
Just did a read for Marshy ^
JTB is null null null

My reads started this Day all ??? and since then I have been trying to sift through all the stuff flying everywhere to clear them up. I was going to wait until the end of the Day to give reads, but apparently you need more from me :ohwell:
 

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Here's my headcanon -

3 VTs
1 Miller
1 Passive(Sleepwalker)
2 Investigatives (Cop + FBI)
2 Backups (Deputy + Universal)

(1 Bodygaurd)

1 Roleblocker
2 goons
1 special indy ****ery who doesn't have a kill (maybe survivor)

I think the Universal likely was a back-up to the FBI, sometimes Back-ups aren't informed as to what they back-up. I'm still highly in belief that we have a cop roaming around or some other sort of investigative, I truly don't think this game is all a red herring and I think it revolves around misinformation, I agree with Zen that I don't think there is a protective.
Possible of a watcher/tracker too with the sleepwalker but hey this is all mod flavor

I don't think with such a defensive town that Gorf would go out of his way to Combine a situation of GF + Roleblocker, I think scum only has one PR and two would just be highly unbalanced considering one of the flipped investigative only helps detect an indy.
wow

are you serious?
 

No Lynch

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Never really a person to get into mod flavor but it's something that we should consider if we're going to massclaim
 

JayKay

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Seriously, screw setup speculation. Claims are like 95% WIFOM.
Screw massclaim as well.

How the hell are we supposed to get reads if we just push this dumb speculation around?
 

JayKay

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@marshy:
this game is not going well for town
we're apparently a play for today
people can't stop saying stupid stuff

ergo :(

marshy can you tell me why you're voting JDietz? I need to hear something sensible.
 

No Lynch

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Seriously, screw setup speculation. Claims are like 95% WIFOM.
Screw massclaim as well.

How the hell are we supposed to get reads if we just push this dumb speculation around?
Not putting in consideration of reads, just trying to understand the setup more, don't see what the negative of outing setup speculation?
 

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you dont see the negative of setup speculation...are you serious no lynch

are you serious

did i just read that ****
 

JayKay

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wastes time?
creates WIFOM?
explains nothing?
You've already lied about your role once... how can you not understand why this is a dumb thing to do now.
 

Jdietz43

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@Kat: Sorry if I've been missing any questions from you, I've been kind of busy between other games and dealing with NL. Can you restate them and I'll answer them?


@Ran: When/if it comes down to it I'll vote JK, but you really need to look at NL, he's still scum and a viable candidate. Stop following him blindly and really sit down and read some of his material. His stuff is flat awful.
 

JayKay

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I do see Jdietz as the scum that he is. Your back-and-forth with him has been substance-less bickering. You're both scum, you're distancing, I got it. You begging me to fall for your act and saying you're "disgusted" with me won't change that. You can hate on each other in thread all you want, but you've got little tells all over the ****ing place. You're both at each other's throats, yet you've managed to find an out on lynching each other every Day so far. Even toDay, you're both screaming your heads off at each other while not-so-subtly inching toward a J lynch instead. It speaks to an outside an agenda, and it's so transparent.

How's about this: I'll lynch Jdietz with you toDay if you agree to vote yourself toMorrow. Deal?
CIRCUS!
Hey, can you please give me some examples of the 'little tells' you talk about?

I have really been struggling to decide what is going on with No Lynch vs. JDietz, because their exchanges almost seem to dumb not
to be genuine. I don't like either of their slots, but I can't make heads or tails of their bickering (other than it's mostly bull****).

I'm probably going to have to do a re-read as well, but yeah, some examples would be great, cheers.
 

JayKay

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EVERYONE:

This game is riddled with scum right now.

We could be in Mylo, mislynch and lose.

I'm going to strongly suggest that you don't vote anyone unless:
You're very confident they're scum,
You've given them a chance to respond.

It's my opinion that this is good play for town, I'm hoping some people agree.
 

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hey now. i am trying to get kataefi to make a play is all. at least i didnt turn on you today like everyone else is doing!

everyone in this game is pulling at my heartstrings
Haha alright man


Yeah the setup spec is no good. Marshy I'd like to know why you chose Dietz over Jkar. I'm going to be gone for the rest of the day and probably tomorrow too for tourney. So Soupa will be spittin his hot fire.
 

Jdietz43

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Haha alright man


Yeah the setup spec is no good. Marshy I'd like to know why you chose Dietz over Jkar. I'm going to be gone for the rest of the day and probably tomorrow too for tourney. So Soupa will be spittin his hot fire.
This is a perfect example of why NL keeps being allowed to wriggle out of things. For some reason people keep allowing them to go back on their play because it's a hydra account...

I should seriously run up a tally of the number of times Soup says "Scratch that" and goes back on himself.
 

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Haha alright man


Yeah the setup spec is no good. Marshy I'd like to know why you chose Dietz over Jkar. I'm going to be gone for the rest of the day and probably tomorrow too for tourney. So Soupa will be spittin his hot fire.
^

vig please shoot

:phone:
 

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@Ran: When/if it comes down to it I'll vote JK, but you really need to look at NL, he's still scum and a viable candidate. Stop following him blindly and really sit down and read some of his material. His stuff is flat awful.
I am looking at him.

*looks at NL*



*looks at JK*



Also what makes you think I'm just following him blindly?
 
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