EDGe cancelling the run- VERY useful with sheik

[soap]

i was reading some thread on aib about how u can cancel ur run by running to the edge and letting go of the stick and ur character goes into the "Woaah im gonna fall off" animation which is the same as standing. U must be in the full run animation to do this cuz the initial dash will take u off the ledge, which makes this very easy to do with sheik and her very small initial dash.

At first i was thinking why not just press down and dash cancel? the advantages i found while messing around is its much quicker/instant to run the other way or to do moves in the opposite direction. Effectively giving sheik a very large pivot/dash dance grab very useful for me cuz i often find myself overstepping her initial dash trying to pivot grab and getting that real slow turn around. or u can run to the ledge turn around ftilt/dsmash/jab. Something else i thought of is edgecancelling the run into a shield, they hit ur shield u fall off then instabair. Obviously all of this works on plats as well

I think this will be very useful for me cuz i am usually camping like a ***ot near the ledge anyway

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

You can also use it to edgehog really quickly, even if you're far away. Run to the edge, turn around and wd off with a fast fall. Gotta play around with other stuff than edgehogging though, sounds really cool.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Wouldn't it be easier/faster to reverse needle cancel, either from a shorthop or just straight from the drop?

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

RNC from the drop is not noticeably faster, it's really only a couple of frames, and much harder. RNC from the short hop is easier, but also much slower.

 

[soap]

my favorite edgehog to do is still the Amsah/Pc walk off thing, but i suck at it, i use mostly short hop RNC.

whatever sheik has enough stylish edgehogging options, im talking about using this as a spacing tool. sheik now has a marth length+ dash dance grab

something funny i was doing is pseudo dashdancing across platforms by edgecancelling runs back and forth, just something else to add into my platform/needle mixups

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Won't they eventually catch on and realize that the extreme of your "dash dance" will always be the edge of the stage/platform and just aim an attack for there?

 

[soap]

LOl, i like how u word that, ya u will get owned for spamming anything too much. But its just another option u have near the edge, not the only one, i personally would rather have that extra trick up my sleeve.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

@_@ Spamming dash dance? =P

I guess, I dunno, I hate dash dancing in general with Sheik.

 

[soap]

its not bad if u do it with a slower timing, but its still pretty **** short, i dont dashdance much either.

 

[Tyr_03]

I do this all the time with Fox. If the opponent is near the opposite edge, I run past him, edgecancel my run, turn around and grab. It's great against people who learn to spotdodge your grabs just as a mix up.

 

[soap]

ya, i was tryin it out with everyone and i really like it with fox and falcon, they can get from the middle of the level to the edge and back to the middle of the stage so quick with this its scary

and sheik can move surprisingly quick with a boost grab off the edge cancel

 

[KirbyKaze]

m2k gets light shield up at the edge with the run cancel (or edgecancelled run; whatever we're calling this).

it's **** vs marth 'cuz you can fair him off the stage then just run to the very edge and toss up light shield (tilt light shield away) and then proceed to gay him with fair if he comes up to up+b.

 

[soap]

huh, im a little confused how that works, in my head im just seeing a sweetspotted marth, i fall off then get ledgehop spiked

 

[KirbyKaze]

i'm not sure how he does it tbh i just saw him doing it to people at the georgia tourney

 

[soap]

i got pretty good at doing real pivots and this edge thing just seems like nonsense to me now

 

[SFAT]

Hey thanks man. This is pretty cool. Please do talk about more tricks and stuff in this thread, I'd like to see them and even use them.

Im going to record some more matches tomorrow and Im going to try and use this in the videos as best I can.

Thanks again Soap.

 

[_kSo_]

wtf why am I in the sheik forums??? 0___o

i saw soap's name and got excited. whoops.

 

[Nekurbis86]

more new sht i didn't think about

too bad the edge is really dangerous and shouldn't **** around there too much

cool tho

 

[soap]

too bad the edge is really dangerous and shouldn't **** around there too much

that's why u should know your way around over there.

that way when people force u there, u can gimp them.

 

[soap]

if u r confused what this looks like.

I am practicing it around :48 - 1:05 of this vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jFOFTovBgk

u can do this with any platform/ledge with every character

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I remember this vid. It was sexy


Come play me soap

 

[soap]

ya, old vid.

but even older thread.

I use this shiz all the time. mostly to get into postion to shield on the edge of platforms, then i instabair when they hit me. It's a pretty cheezy trick.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

WOW i just realized this thread was that old.

 

[soap]

yo, so u can like run to the edge turn around ftilt, unload a full charge of needles edgecancel fastfall waveland into stuff

Or Dj into another needle setup. or u could be boring and just fall on the edge.