E3 2014 - Super Smash Bros. Invitational - Players/Rules Announced

[TheMagicalKuja]

Exactly. LiquidKen expressed interest in the villager and Peachyhime wanted Greninja or Rosalina, so there's already discussion on working things out, which would be good.

 

[Chiroz]

Damn, I hadn't read the news. Holy **** did Nintendo go all out.

And they gave us wired controller support. Yeaaaa!!!

 

[Gameboi834]

LiquidKen expressed interest in the villager

lolwut

 

[TheMagicalKuja]

He said so on Peachyhime's stream (and I think there was a thread on /v/ or /vg/ that had a screencap of it)

 

[Zyfoe]

I've been thinking, and I've reached this conclusion: I'm going to view this not as a Competitive Smash Tournament, but as a Competitive Demonstration of Smash 4. I can't wait to see the chaos of a 4 player free for all with items on. We're not just seeing characters fight, we're seeing the items in action too.




Also, here's hoping someone picks up an assist trophy with Grey Fox/Raiden in it thus confirming Snake.

 

[Spazzy_D]

The metagame until the end of the tournament is who's going to get the best items.

While I agree that "true" competitive Smash is best played on select stages with no items, there is in fact a healthy meta-game involved with items that a lot of competitive Smash purists seem to ignore. With the exception of random explosions taking people out and the star man, every weapon has a strategy or an element of risk reward. This is especially true in a free for all. Great, I have a Pokeball! Do I throw it straight at the ground at my feet, guaranteeing that I own the Pokemon but having it spawn away from other players, or do I throw it towards them and risk having it be caught? I have a hammer! Who should I go after? If I grab it I have no recovery, and although I may get a few kills, if someone can avoid me and find an item to knock me off stage I'm down a stock. Dragoon parts spawning? I could get some kills if I complete it, but it is decently avoidable and I will take a lot of damage if all I do is fish for the parts.

Now, don't get me wrong, when I want to seriously test my skill against other players, I turn items off as they do add an element of randomness. I'm just saying that skilled players are skilled players, and that smart players can still use items to their advantage in a way that average players may not think of. I do completely expect one or two ridiculously unfair item KOs that may result in some saltiness.... but whatever, it's largely a "for fun" tournament anyway.

 

[GUIGUI]

Can we now safely say that the hype we had fro Smash Brawl back then before its release has now fully returned for Smash Four and is now stronger than ever? The era of doubt is probably now a thing of the past...

 

[CloneHat]

I'm not even mad about items being on, I want to see them all too. I just think that the first half of the tournament is going to be considerably different from the second half.

 

[KiraYoshikage]

THOSE FILTHY ITEMS HELPING THESE CASUAL SCUM GOD THEY ARE SO ONE SIDED IT TAKES NO SKILL TO GET AN ITEM BEFORE OPPONENT FILTHY CASUALS NO ITEMS FOX ONLY FINAL DESTINATION!!!

Yikes.

 

[Dravidian]

Concerning the invitational, I think it'd be cool if grand finals was planned to that right as the match ended we get a "challenger approaching" warning

 

[juddy96]

After going through all 16 players' twitter, this is what I've come up with so far...

Toph: Greninja
KDJ: ???
Ken: Marth/Samus if Marth isn't available just to tick HugS off
Rapture: Wii Fit Trainer
HugS: Samus/Little Mac
Peachy: Rosalina/Greninja
Hungry: Villager/Rosalina/Greninja
Crismas: Little Mac
aMSa: Kirby/Newcomer
ZeRo: ???
PewPewU: Marth/Rosalina
Lilo: ???
DJNintendo: Bowser
MacD: Zelda
Milktea: Mega Man
Dr. PP: Marth/Greninja/Mega Man

 

[mimgrim]

Ken: Marth/Samus if Marth isn't available just to tick HugS off

 

[TheMagicalKuja]

I think I poked on Lilo's twitch stream and she said she wanted to try Zelda? Don't quote me on that though.

 

[Sol_Vent]

Mario, Link, Fox, Pikachu, DK, Pit, Sonic, Olimar.

^ Characters which no player has expressed interest in, to my knowledge. But half of them must be picked.

 

[mimgrim]

I have a feeling Zero might go after Fox or Pit.

If he were to try a newcomer though I think he would try Mac due to how Mac looks like a in your face type character, which fits his playstyle perfectly.

 

[CloneHat]

What's going to stop people from teaming with each other during the free-for-alls?

 

[Oracle_Summon]

What's going to stop people from teaming with each other during the free-for-alls?

I don't think there will be anything. However, I do think Nintendo might find a around it.

 

[Halfhead]

What's going to stop people from teaming with each other during the free-for-alls?

Well, there is the fact that if the team turns out to be a good team, it might suck when both members of the good team advance and you have to fight the good player you selected because you thought they would help you win.

I suppose it might be in the best interest of the best player to team with the worst player. It wouldn't really help the team during the actual match though.

 

[UpsilonFox]

What time is the Invitational going to be live on Twitch? I thought it was going to be at the start of the "Nintendo Digital Event" (so 9am LA time, so 2am where I am), but I've heard that the Invitational is going to be on later in the day.
Can anyone tell me when the tournament will be live?

 

[Kenith]

Seriously, what @ UpsilonFox said.

What are the times on the E3 presentation, Invitational, the Smashfest, and the Press Conferences?

Can I do it all live or will I have to watch some afterwards?

 

[Deleted member]

Tournament is at 4pm PST, and ends at 6:30 PST.

 

[Kenith]

Tournament is at 4pm PST, and ends at 6:30 PST.

EST?

 

[MasterofMonster]

I know when the Digital Event will start for me in Sweden, but could someone say how many hours after it the Invitational Tournament will be? Would be very appreciated.

 

[Kenith]

Will the invitational be one sitting? Or will it be strewn over two or three days?

 

[Deleted member]

EST?

In EST, it starts at about 7 PM.
PST is 3 hours behind.

 

[Kenith]

In EST, it starts at about 7 PM.
PST is 3 hours behind.

Wait, did you mean EST is three hours behind?

ARGH!!
*head explodes*

 

[Deleted member]

Wait, did you mean EST is three hours behind?

ARGH!!
*head explodes*

No, EST is 3 hours ahead of PST. When it's, for example, 2 PM there, it's 5 PM where you live.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Chiroz]

Invitational is 4:00-6:30 PM PST (7:00-9:30 PM EST). It is 1 sitting, although there might be intermissions, ads or a half time show or something.

Its 8 matches. 7 of those matches are 4 player FFA's, items on, random stage selection, 4 stocks with 5 minute timers, the top 2 players advance to the next round. Grand finals is a 1v1, no items on Battlefield, 4 stocks, 8 minutes.

Matches will be played 1 at a time, and taking into account organization time of 5 minutes between matches (cheering, player rotation, hype creation, character selection, etc) it gives tournament about 80-90 minutes, so there is a whole hour unaccounted for. We will see what Nintendo is planning.

 

[Kenith]

Invitational is 4:00-6:30 PM PST (7:00-9:30 PM). It is 1 sitting, although there might be intermissions, ads or a half time show or something.

Its 8 matches. 7 of those matches are 4 player FFA's, items on, random stage selection, 4 stocks with 5 minute timers, the top 2 players advance to the next round. Grand finals is a 1v1, no items on Battlefield, 4 stocks, 8 minutes.

Matches will be played 1 at a time, and taking into account organization time of 5 minutes between matches (cheering, player rotation, hype creation, character selection, etc) it gives tournament about 80-90 minutes, so there is a whole hour unaccounted for. We will see what Nintendo is planning.

Thank you, that is everything I needed to know.

 

[Morbi]

Invitational is 4:00-6:30 PM PST (7:00-9:30 PM EST). It is 1 sitting, although there might be intermissions, ads or a half time show or something.

Its 8 matches. 7 of those matches are 4 player FFA's, items on, random stage selection, 4 stocks with 5 minute timers, the top 2 players advance to the next round. Grand finals is a 1v1, no items on Battlefield, 4 stocks, 8 minutes.

Matches will be played 1 at a time, and taking into account organization time of 5 minutes between matches (cheering, player rotation, hype creation, character selection, etc) it gives tournament about 80-90 minutes, so there is a whole hour unaccounted for. We will see what Nintendo is planning.

The tournament is going to be FFA? I seriously misread something, I did not realize that it would be set up that way. I guess that will be different at the very least... but I will not lie, that just killed almost all of my hype for the invitational. I was actually anticipating more than "e3." But hey, I suppose my expectations were far too high.

 

[MargnetMan23]

The tournament is going to be FFA? I seriously misread something, I did not realize that it would be set up that way. I guess that will be different at the very least... but I will not lie, that just killed almost all of my hype for the invitational. I was actually anticipating more than "e3." But hey, I suppose my expectations were far too high.

Well, at least the finale will be that no items competitive stage, 1 on 1 we've all been waiting for. The FFA is a necessary evil honestly :/

 

[silvR1995]

Well, at least the finale will be that no items competitive stage, 1 on 1 we've all been waiting for. The FFA is a necessary evil honestly :/

The tournament is going to be FFA? I seriously misread something, I did not realize that it would be set up that way. I guess that will be different at the very least... but I will not lie, that just killed almost all of my hype for the invitational. I was actually anticipating more than "e3." But hey, I suppose my expectations were far too high.

I must be a casual scrub, because this sounds like an awesome idea to me.

 

[Shadow Ganon]

The tournament is going to be FFA? I seriously misread something, I did not realize that it would be set up that way. I guess that will be different at the very least... but I will not lie, that just killed almost all of my hype for the invitational. I was actually anticipating more than "e3." But hey, I suppose my expectations were far too high.

This tournament is going to be viewed by the casual community of Smash players and maybe people who have never really played Smash before and are here to see what Smash 4 has to offer. For that group, competitive play isn't all that important right now. They have items on and random stage selection for those people to check them out. But it is confirmed that they are setting the items to medium, then low as the tournament progresses and then turning them off completely in the final match. This is still part of E3 and they wanna show us all they have to offer (that's also why there's a one character per player for the whole tourney rule). Doesn't mean all their tournaments are always gonna be like that (assuming they'll be hosting more). It's not meant to be as serious hence the Free For All . I'm still pretty hype about all of this!

 

[Morbi]

This tournament is going to be viewed by the casual community of Smash players and maybe people who have never really played Smash before and are here to see what Smash 4 has to offer. For that group, competitive play isn't all that important right now. They have items on and random stage selection for those people to check them out. But it is confirmed that they are setting the items to medium, then low as the tournament progresses and then turning them off completely in the final match. This is still part of E3 and they wanna show us all they have to offer (that's also why there's a one character per player for the whole tourney rule). Doesn't mean all their tournaments are always gonna be like that (assuming they'll be hosting more). It's not meant to be as serious hence the Free For All . I'm still pretty hype about all of this!

I agree, I had my moment of outrage where I was whining like a little *****. However; as I talked about it more, I am actually quite fond of this idea. It is not every day that you see top players like HungryBox or Pee Pee playing FFA w/ items on (in an entirely new Smash, of course). Unprecedented. I forgot that I was originally anticipating the tournament as a method to learn more about the game.

 

[Banjodorf]

Yeah. They clearly know what, or are at least trying to know what competitive Smash is really about. (I'm actually most impressed the finale match is on Battlefield, and not FD. They've clearly done their research.) It's just that they have to show off all the stuff, because honestly it's E3. It's a sales pitch first and a hype generator second.

I'm interested to see if they put more backbone behind other tournaments in the future.

But Geoff Keighly? Really? That guy is one enormous asshole, that's just going to make an obnoxious spectacle of himself.

 

[aldelaro5]

But Geoff Keighly? Really? That guy is one enormous *******, that's just going to make an obnoxious spectacle of himself.

Just who in the world is this guy? You're not the only one one that finds him awkward but why?

 

[Deleted member]

Just who in the world is this guy? You're not the only one one that finds him awkward but why?

The guy from those Doritos/Mountain Dew ads for things like Halo. We've come to know him as the Doritos Pope.

 

[MasterofMonster]

So, who do we Think will win this thing? :3 I root for whoever uses Bowser, but I don't expect him to win.

And I am not that knowledgable of these people..

 

[aldelaro5]

The guy from those Doritos/Mountain Dew ads for things like Halo. We've come to know him as the Doritos Pope.

euh... did some search and I still don't know why he's weird (and now, I question how this picture became a meme I see nothing that is weird here).

 

[NewGuy79]

wait guys... so if items are on what happens once the smash ball pops up?