Dumb idea...?

[PKNintendo]

wario is a lighter character. the up smash is therefore more effective vs. him.

Wario is heavy.:embarrass

True, but it's like hmm...if I can't hit with fsmash, I use my usmash, then dsmash for K.O's (I usually keep all my smash fresh.) If I still can't get a K.O then b-air.

That.

 

[Mario_ 101]

i'm talking hes light KO wise duh. he dies at lower percents. he's not like bowser harder to kill with up smash.

 

[HeroMystic]

No. It kills Mario at FD at 130%. (with DI) spammed or not spammed, it's weak.

Your point?

I still kill Wario with it. Stop trying to idiotically argue with me. It just makes you look like an idiot.

 

[PKNintendo]

Your point?

I still kill Wario with it. Stop trying to idiotically argue with me. It just makes you look like an idiot.

Ha. Wario is close to Boweser's weight anyway, how do I look like an idiot, when you think using an upsmash against him is easy. Upsmash kills Wario refreshed at 140 ish%.

 

[HeroMystic]

how do I look like an idiot

Because you are.

when you think using an upsmash against him is easy. Upsmash kills Wario refreshed at 140 ish%.

Quote me when I said I killing Wario with Up-Smash was easy.

 

[Mario_ 101]

k so wario is heavy ko wise my bad. but i'd actually prefer to kill him with that because wario's recovery can b difficult to gimp. and i just tested and wario dies from mario's uncharged up smash at 131%. i tested in training so there's no move decay. besides, do u think that u HAVE to get u smash uncharged to kill wario? cuz even if u chage it for a sec u can ko him at 10% lower or so. gosh pknintendo

 

[PKNintendo]

Because you are.



Quote me when I said I killing Wario with Up-Smash was easy.

I suppose you didn't say it was easy.

Oh, but I'll be ****ed If I apologise, who do you think you are gods gift to Mario? Seriously, HeroMystic, i've seen alot of *******s but you take the cake.

Mario 101, did you test it on a human player with DI?

 

[Matt07]

Hmm I thought computers automatically DI at level 9, in training mode? But I dunno.

 

[HeroMystic]

Oh, but I'll be ****ed If I apologise, who do you think you are gods gift to Mario?

Yes.

Seriously, HeroMystic, i've seen alot of *******s but you take the cake.

It's a lie.

 

[Mario_ 101]

without DI its 131%, with its 143% at center of FD. but mario should stay round the edge a lot, not near the center.

 

[viparagon]

^This.

Mario is a character with no easy exploits. You have to use all his abilities to win each match, and you have to understand all his techniques. Most of all however, you have to be smart and think during the match. This is mostly what drives players away from Mario because there is no "simple task" for Mario (although we Mario mains are so experienced we can call them simple tasks ).

Mario is the character that shows the true skills of the player behind him.

you don't have to utilyze dtilt to win!
lol

 

[HeroMystic]

Mario doesn't have a D-tilt. =/

 

[viparagon]

oh yeah
10noneexistantmoves

 

[DP's Mario]

Mario is a WONDERFUL character to main. If not easy, it's more of a challenge.

I mean, you got your combos (jab-resets are still in, thank GOD.), teh awesome cape which isn't that much of an effect as it was in Melee, but still good. And, well, F.L.U.D.D.

Mario, at the right mind skill, not much technicality included, is actually a pretty neutral match-up against anybody.

I believe Sakurai gave him GOD-DI. lol..

We may have a hard time against both Dedede & Meta. K, but it doesn't make it "Impossible". I mean, I like the challenge wanting to learn to get around their attacks. It's fun! Besides, Sakurai made Brawl to be FUN. He never meant to make it "competitive". Therefore, calling Melee a "mistake".

I main Mario. 2nd Luigi & 3rd Martha.

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

not tryin 2 sound like a smart *** but what advantages does snake have against mario i cant see it. mk i can see but snake? can someone please tell me bcus snake is comboable

 

[hippiedude92]

uhms that question should belong on Q&A thread. anyways snake has kill power, ground game, range.

 

[HeroMystic]

It's mainly his range. Stage control is a meh and not much of a problem, but Snake's spacing ability makes it really hard for Mario to approach consistently.

 

[iMichael]

OH snap! DP is back...at least I haven't seen you post in a loooong time. Melee Mario's...

 

[Judge Judy]

It's mainly his range. Stage control is a meh and not much of a problem, but Snake's spacing ability makes it really hard for Mario to approach consistently.

Up B OOS does **** Snake's melee atks though, including his mortar slide and Nair.

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

but mario has excellent combos on snake due 2 his weight. mayb its just the snakes i faced but my style goes straight into combos and i find snake all right, not with a big advantage

 

[Matt07]

Lately, I've been trying to change my playstyle, so when I get competitive offline, I will use all my moves, and try not to be predictable. Like I spend about 1 minute on the ground .

Onto the point, whenever I tried to approach him on the ground I got wrecked, hardcore. It seems air is a much safer way to approach him in this match-up.

 

[Judge Judy]

Lately, I've been trying to change my playstyle, so when I get competitive offline, I will use all my moves, and try not to be predictable. Like I spend about 1 minute on the ground .

Onto the point, whenever I tried to approach him on the ground I got wrecked, hardcore. It seems air is a much safer way to approach him in this match-up.

Fireballs and FLUDD are your friend in this match-up; fireballs stop his mortar slide and FLUDD stops his grenades and melee atks. As far as up close on the ground, use Ftilts, jabs, and Up B OOS any of his atks that get too close. Snake is also easy to juggle and getting him stuck in an Utilt lock is nearly a guarenteed free 40%. Mario defenetly badly beats Snake in air but don't undestimate Snake's priority or his projectiles. Snake isn't too swift off-stage either which is another good place to fight him. The best way to play against Snake is play smart and play it safe; slowly approach him and disarm his stage control as much as you can along the way. Snake's main advantage is his incredible KO power and how easy his kill moves are to pull off.

 

[Matt07]

Agreed fully with you Judge Judy.

Haha, I think we continue or should discuss other match-up's in the Q&A Thread, .

 

[PhantomX]

Your best bet in killing Wario is definitely a fsmash off a read aerial of his... they shouldn't run into upsmash, it's range isn't that big, and it doesn't even kill very early compared to when he can kill you. If you play defensive he's going to abuse his huge grab range and bite, you need to play evasive, not defensive. Wait for openings/mistakes (or bait them) and then combo him. I wonder if you can cape the fart... I know it can be reflected with Nayru's love, haha.

 

[HeroMystic]

...If Nayru's love can reflect the waft, then the cape DEFINITELY can reflect it.

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

...If Nayru's love can reflect the waft, then the cape DEFINITELY can reflect it.

that should b enough 2 send him 2 his death on the start up of the waft

 

[HeroMystic]

It's not practical seeing as how Warios use it for punishment.

 

[DP's Mario]

Hmm. I say it needs more up-tilt. The up-tilt is surprisingly not that bad in Brawl. Guaranteed, if an Up-smash won't kill, Mario's up-tilt will.