Dsmash Maneuvering - Vid inside

[Z1GMA]

I've been messing around with Dsmash.
The purpose is to increase the chances of landing a Dsmash.

The vid shows two, or actually three, coo' ways in which you can Dsmash.

It first shows normal buffered Dsmashes (#0)
(So that new ZSSs can understand the difference better)

Then 'Dsmash out of Dash Dance' (#1)
Then 'Retreating Dsmash' (#2) + 'Retreating turn around Dsmash' (#3)

Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoNUN170ok

The trick to all these is the timing.
All of them are based on Dash Dancing.

But, unlike Fsmash, Usmash, DA, grab, jump, and side+b out of Dash Dance,
(which are all really easy to perform),
this requires that you press C-stick down at the exact same time as you dash in the other direction.

I believe the "Retreating Dsmash" has great potential.

 

[Zero]

I found this out myself when I was playing around with true pivots. I could never do it consistently enough to consider it viable.

How precise did you find the movement for the retreating dsmash?

 

[Z1GMA]

How precise did you find the movement for the retreating dsmash?

It is easier than to DACUS with Sheik imo.
Dash way - instantly dash back + cancel it with a Dsmash.

 

[Zero]

Guess my controller really is a piece of **** then.

Good stuff.

I can't DACUS with Sheik though.

 

[culexus・wau]

looks like I have something to practice!

this visual helps a lot.

good find

oh wow I was able to do jab out of this.

I think this is universal O_o

 

[Z1GMA]

oh wow I was able to do jab out of this.

I've been able to Dtilt, Utilt and Ftilt out of it, but it is harder than the Dsmash,
since it requires Soft Tilting (standard controls).
You can even taunt out of it, haha.

Retreating Dsmash is what I really like the most, though.
ZSS has great use of it compared to all other characters.

Lucases might find it useful, too.
And maybe Wolfs in favor of getting a tipper Dsmash.

 

[NickRiddle]

And now, I can win MLG.

 

[Z1GMA]

Only three ppl tought this was coo' :|

 

[Zero]

Don't worry, only 3 people browse this board actively. :D

 

[culexus・wau]

I can't get this down 100%

make a video of your controller while doing it!~

I'm somehow was more consistant with it if I buffer into it lolz

 

[Nefarious B]

I duno, I've always felt that the small pivot (which is what the retreating one is) is too small to actually make use of. That's just me

 

[Z1GMA]

I can't get this down 100%

I don't think any human can.
Even if you master it, you'll mess it up from time to time.

I duno, I've always felt that the small pivot (which is what the retreating one is) is too small to actually make use of. That's just me

Maybe so.
I thought it might mess up ppl's spacing a bit, sometimes.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Useful.

10char

 

[ph00tbag]

I stopped trying to develop this idea two years ago when I tripped while practicing it.

 

[noradseven]

I stopped trying to develop this idea two years ago when I tripped while practicing it.

Its still useful occasionally, the dash back one is the best because if you trip you trip away, and not into ike forward smash.

I want a brawl mod, where everytime you trip an ike appears and forward smashes you.

 

[Dakpo]

sounds legit

 

[Shadow Tactics]

Me and my friend Mr-R have been doing this for a really long time, lol. It's pretty good to use once in a while yeah :].

 

[Z1GMA]

Me and my friend Mr-R have been doing this for a really long time, lol. It's pretty good to use once in a while yeah :].

The thing is, ZSS benefits much more from this than any other character,
thanks to the design of her Dsmash.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Mr R has never even ONCE used this against me, and I live like 5mins away from him.

And Shay, you're gay.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Though I am new to Zamus I see a lot of use for these. Especially for retreating as well. first thought that comes to mind is using retreating d-smash near the ledge as a fake out/chance to abuse the huge hitbox it has under ground level. Nice stuff. I'll be using this.