Drill upsmash?

[DavE P]

hey guys i just started fox awhile ago and i stumbled upon the drill upsmash. i dont really see this used in any fox vids. mostly ive used it when i play comps or my frends ganon. is it usable in tournament play and on faster characters and players?

 

[RaynEX]

This isn't SSB for 64. Multi-hit aerials no longer link into smashes. If you dair ANY opponent, the only thing that acts as a 1, 2 combo is the shine.

Drill to shine hits everytime if you lcancel the drill and shine fast enough. The usmash comes out too slow to link from the dair, and seeing as the dair does NOT stun your opponent after hitting - this combo is completely useless.

Sorry to kill your hopes.

P.S: I've heard of another drill combo though, but it works only on jiggs supposedly. I think kirby too.

If you drill and hit them, DI and land behind them - at that point utilt, and it should link right from the dair. Apparantly it is a REALLY good way to kill jiggs at high percents. It is only effective if you hit with the dair though. If they block it, chances are they'll roll or something.

 

[Winston]

Yeah, you should probably practice drill into waveshine upsmash. That works on a good number of characters.

 

[DavE P]

ya sorry for wasting ur guys time. i already know how to drill shine up smash its just that it seeamed easier to just upsmash right away. i thought itd work cuz i can get my frends ganon a few times with it.

seeing how know one uses it really wouldnt it make like a good suprise atack move. Some people wont expect it since most foxes shine out of their drills. also its really fun on noobs who cant react fast enough i guess u can get a free stock at around 95% plus. But strictly somthing youd only do once since pros will catch on if u abuse it.

thx for the replies guys.

 

[Wilhelmsan]

I've done a fullhopped->fastfalled dair through a jiggs in the air and upsmashed right afterward.

 

[GOTM]

it actually is possible to do, although you probably wont get them to fall for it too many times. drill-grab or drill-waveshine-w/e works better.

except on jiggs, you can drill grab her all you want

 

[TheKneeOfJustice]

You drill -> shine -> JC Up smash on certain cahracters if you are fast enough. If you aren't though, it's just more reliable to wave dash into up smash anyways.

 

[kiwisfox]

drill shine ftw

 

[Rayku]

I've gotten into the habit of drill+grab, or, if they're someone like Peach, I drillshine into grab if they're at low percentage. Some of the really really floaty chars. like IC and Luigi, I always drillgrab. It's really effective.

 

[DavE P]

never ever grab IC theres a 50% chances ull get the other one then ur just screwed.

 

[Miharu]

Grab instantly into a dthrow. Nana doesn't tech.

 

[takieddine]

drill-grab or drill-waveshine-w/e works better.

Careful with drillgrabs against a spacie, a good one will shine you out of it. even if its not a space animal, if you catch say a Marth in the air with a drill, they land and grab you before you can l-cancel.

This isn't SSB for 64. Multi-hit aerials no longer link into smashes. If you dair ANY opponent, the only thing that acts as a 1, 2 combo is the shine.
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drill to jabs, and like you mentioned (utilit) combo. what you can do instead of landing behind the jiggs is simply turn around and immediately utilt which will only cost you 2 extra frames.

You drill -> shine -> JC Up smash on certain cahracters if you are fast enough. If you aren't though, it's just more reliable to wave dash into up smash anyways.

I dont think that is possible, unless you catch them with the top of the shine, which is pretty near impossible since you've come down with dair.

Drill usmash is still useable, but only if you get a perfectly timed l-cancel and you know your opponent won't shield etc..

 

[SCOTU]

the dair only combos for 5 frames afterwards, so you can't technically turn around utilt, you have to utilit facing away. Also, it works on any character.

The Drillgrab is usually a pretty safe bet because most people can only shield out of it and that gets them grabed, although, a space animal can shine out, a jiggs can rest out, and a G&W can up-b out. and other characters can do various psuedo instantaneous attacks, like samus' & Bowser's up-b

 

[v3x?]

This isn't SSB for 64. Multi-hit aerials no longer link into smashes. If you dair ANY opponent, the only thing that acts as a 1, 2 combo is the shine.

Just so you know, drill jab and drill pivot utilt also count as a 1,2 combo. At least in pal it is... i've only played NTSC once or twice so i dont know.

 

[Silent Wolf]

Drill pivot utilt wouldn't work on anyone. Drill utilt does though, and the direction you're facing doesn't matter much if you're close enough. Drill turn around utilt doesn't really work.

 

[Shai Hulud]

Who the hell can pivot utilts anyway?

 

[Brookman]

Grab instantly into a dthrow. Nana doesn't tech.

Grab into a forward throw. Down throw works with falco because his lasers stun.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Drill to Grab is generally a better option if you're not going to shine. And like Silent Wolf stated, so is U-tilt.