down-smash roll edgeguarding

[Hax]

this is an amazing edgeguard against certain characters; namely those who travel directly above you as they recover such as DK.

the idea is to plant a dsmash mine right on the edge or next to it (within ledge roll range) and grab the ledge. as they up-b, they will not auto-grab ledge as you are holding onto it. the problem with brawl is that normally from this position, the recoverer would get onto the stage unpunished. so what you do is when they're in the air and parallel to your mine, ledge roll. you are invincible so it won't hurt you, but it is enough to detonate the mine and hit THEM with the explosion. depending on how much you charged the mine, this can be very deadly.

i've known this for a while and might have shared it before.. not sure

 

[mofo_]

mmmm pretty bad mah boi

 

[Panix]

Thank you for my new bowser+DK edgeguard Tech =)

 

[indianunit]

i'm pretty sure you've shared this before....can't remember though.

 

[Hax]

werd i did; the thread wasn't very popular though. :[ it deserves to be

it's amazing against bowser and dk for sure, and i bet other characters too

 

[napZzz]

its amazing vs. anything that doesn't have a huge up b,it seems like ally does this alot, cept with mortars ._.

 

[Recon7]

hmm so if you plant the mine just at the edge the hit box is below the ledge? not sure how this would hit them before they grab the ledge...guess i'll have to try it out

 

[Bellioes]

hmm so if you plant the mine just at the edge the hit box is below the ledge? not sure how this would hit them before they grab the ledge...guess i'll have to try it out

You dont hit them below the ledge
You grab the ledge so they cant grab it and have to recover above you
Then you ledge roll detonating the mine and hitting your opponent in the process (they couldnt grab the ledge )

 

[_Phloat_]

To good.

 

[Recon7]

You dont hit them below the ledge
You grab the ledge so they cant grab it and have to recover above you
Then you ledge roll detonating the mine and hitting your opponent in the process (they couldnt grab the ledge )

Oh ok i got you now thanks for the clarification. so basically plant a FCM then ledge hog

 

[Bellioes]

Oh ok i got you now thanks for the clarification. so basically plant a FCM then ledge hog

Yup no problem
And a quick question for you guys
If we throw a grenade at UpBs with multiple hits/that dure quite some time; does it explode and hit them in the process. I think that would be a great edgeguard for characters like bowser and DK too
Imagine following them off the ledge and throwing the grenade while theyre UpBing followed by a double-jumped Bair to hit them back out. You could probably edgehog them afterwards cause they probably dont have their double jump anymore and have to rely on their UpB. That would be awesome. ^_^

 

[magikguy]

i think the grenade and attack just will clash.

 

[Hax]

if it does explode, that would be great if you didn't have time to set the mine up. as soon as they pass you, ledge hop -> grenade throw towards them :D