Donkey Kong VS Samus

[littlewolfy]

Okay I have discovered that DK is a hard match up when it comes to Samus. His grabs are extremly annoying and have a long reach and his attacks consit of throwing samus up into the air and up smash her.

I need some help fighting this gorilla, Any ideas?

 

[0RLY]

DK is the easiest match-up ever. Spam missiles and zair, he will have an extremely difficult time approaching. Even if he gets close, your jab clanks with all of his tilts. If he starts approaching with bairs, sh backwards and zair. If he uses a ground approach, your grab may come in handy since DK is a huge target. Also space yourself out so that DK can't grab you. If he does get a throw off, simply double jump since Samus is a floaty character.

 

[littlewolfy]

Its offical the characters that are usually annoying against samus are the ones I can beat but some easier match ups I get my butt handed to me.

 

[VirisKnite]

That's why you should take the match up charts with a grain of salt. They serve as a good generic guide but, everyone has their own play style and everyone can have a different way of dealing with different situations. Btw this has been posted before in some of our other threads.

 

[Xyro77]

Samus should always be able to handle a DK. Zair keeps them at distance and missles will hit them even if they shield(hits the top of his head). \DK is honetly not that hard you know what your doing.

 

[littlewolfy]

Well the DK I was fighting was spamming alot and Edgeguarding so it got on my nerves so much that I started trying to avoid him but jumping in the air to do air attacks, which such with his up smash.

I beat DKs easilly normally but this one was just plain annoying.

 

[Darkhart]

I have the same problem...since I spend my time online, I can't spam zairs or missiles due to any lag.

 

[VirisKnite]

DK's can spam? WTH? Lol.

 

[littlewolfy]

Yea the guy Im fighting uses the same moves over and over again. Its getting quite annoying

 

[VirisKnite]

If your playing online in lag get some space and spam uncharged shots then when gets close jab to knock him away and repeat until you feel accustom to the lag to sh a zair when/if he trys to jump over the uncharged shots.

 

[littlewolfy]

Yea I just versed a DK at level 9 and I got beat! AUGHGHGH! Im a bad samus *cries in a corner*

 

[ADHD]

MISSLE SPAM ISN'T ALWAYS GONNA WORK.

He can ftilt through your missles like its a bug and he wont take any damage at all. The zair--spam it like your tranquilizing dat friggin monkey. Just don't get close until he has his mind set that you're just going to spam, then make a surprise attack, get him the hell away and respam.

If you suck, don't worry, samus takes a long time before she's actually able to be playable (yes, playable.)

 

[Crystanium]

We do have this thread to discuss these things. However, because I am still not finished, I'll just throw in some stuff. Donkey Kong is one of my alternative characters. So, I have Samus, Pit, and Donkey Kong. (I needed a character who would be strong in defense and offense.) Donkey Kong's kind of game is close-combat. All his standard attacks are quick, and he needn't go in for the kill just yet to defeat his opponent. After all, that d-smash of his has KO potential.

Donkey Kong can keep himself distanced by his f-tilt or d-tilt. His neutral A, though while simply a standard attack, does increase damage really quick if you continue to get hit by it. One of the things you should worry about with Donkey Kong is his B attack. If it's fully charged, he will have a magic armor when he uses it. So, if you were to hit him, and he were to hit you, his attack would out-prioritize yours, and he wouldn't be flying, but you would. Since Donkey Kong's kind of game is close-combat, deal out some damage against him with Homing Missiles. Though this only does 5% damage, the damage builds up over time. One with common sense would know that even small attacks will eventually bring their downfall.

If you are in the air, be aware of Donkey Kong's u-air. It is a powerful attack and can KO you. I've done it to a friend of mine just last night. His d-airs are also effective, so don't take those lightly. Don't roll around Donkey Kong, either. His d-smash will cover both sides, and if hit, you do run into the risk of being KO'd. Simply space yourself, and if you have to get in close combat, use your jabs and f-tilts. I use the f-tilts, preferably f-tilts while angled down. This does 10% damage, which is an additional 3% versus the original f-tilt. It also has a tendency to cause your opponent to fly. I've done this many times against my brother when he plays as Ness.

One final word: Donkey Kong's Up+B recovery is poor. He flies horizontally, so if you can get him low off the stage, he has no way of returning.

 

[Crystanium]

Yea I just versed a DK at level 9 and I got beat! AUGHGHGH! Im a bad samus *cries in a corner*

Don't bother fighting against level 9 CPUs. It is better to fight against level 1 to level 3 CPUs, because you'll play normally, rather than indifferently. When you are pressured, as you would be when fighting a level 9, you are compelled to spam attacks, and this leads to a poor way of playing. It's better to fight against human players also. You'll get experience from different people and see how they play their character. They have minds, and they will punish you if you mess up. You'll also get better at shielding and spot-dodging. I know I have.

 

[littlewolfy]

I dont spam missles unless Its sudden death. Also Im really good as Samus But I just am bad against Donkey Kong. Though Im not a master of Samus Im not so good people are begging me to fight them but Im pretty good.

Oh and thank you dryn that helps alot. Level 9's in Brawl Feel different than they are in Melee.

 

[Darkhart]

little you want to have a couple of matches.
it'll be great training.

I seen some things dk can do....i can help with him

 

[littlewolfy]

Well I can't get to my Wii Right now but yea that would be nice.

 

[Darkhart]

Well I can't get to my Wii Right now but yea that would be nice.

thats okay.
I'll be here tomorrow.

Find some DK users and fight them.
Its good practice.

 

[Drazon]

I get comments on my missile spamming all the time. It's literally a barrage of 5% dmg dings. Since DK has few choices on canceling those homings away, just spam those, zair for spacing or just plain grab them and setup a d throw/ b throw to bair.

And abuse your neutral B. What DK has in defense, easily gets shredded with constant charged shots.

 

[Jmex]

Ill help you train if you really need it. Since i myself, play Samus as well.

 

[Coldfront]

I love this match up for the sole fact that I can use Usmash and get all of the hits off. I love fighting DK as I can use Samus's entire arsenal. Bombs work, projectiles work, zair works, Usmash works, it's great!

 

[ll Mafia ll]

I'm just pulling this from the DK threads.

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Ftilt and Bair both cancel missles, both homing and super. Zair is usually best to shield or SH airdodge.

Are you serious? You can F-Tilt the missiles, super missiles, AND un charged power shots. How could you possibly be having trouble against this person?

If you run away and try to shield/sirdodge missles, etc. you're working right into Samus's game. Once you become more agressive and start Bairing and Ftilting through you pressure Samus hard.
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As it seems, they seem to underestimate the amount of spam Samus is capable of.

And keep the DK off you.
DK is not short, therefore Zair = Happy Time.

 

[Drazon]

Zair and homing spam.
And watch his range.

 

[w0re]

DK is slow. Samus should be as easy match up. Just keep on rolling, and setting up your power ball. Increase his percentage & time the power ball & bast at him, simple.