Donkey kong Junior, will he make a comeback?

[Brawlmatt202]

IMO, Donkey Jnr and Diddy Kong both are a waste.

We've already got one Kong, and the possibility of a badguy (King Krool) coming in, so why an extra? Diddy would basically be a DK clone, maybe one or two different moves, but really, I think they're are more useful/deserving characters than them.

I don't mind Diddy being in Brawl, but I think there's a lot of other potential characters that would be more fitting for it.

Uh, HOW is Diddy Kong a clone of Donkely Kong?! Their build look nothing alike! Diddy's smaller and skinnier, while DK is huge and bulkier!

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

We've already got one Kong, and the possibility of a badguy (King Krool) coming in, so why an extra? Diddy would basically be a DK clone, maybe one or two different moves, but really, I think they're are more useful/deserving characters than them.

Elaborate Diddy being a clone, please.

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

Elaborate Diddy being a clone, please.

Agreed I want to hear this...

 

[Stryks]

seriously, next thing ur gonna tell me wario will be a mario clone only fatter...

 

[xianfeng]

IMO, Donkey Jnr and Diddy Kong both are a waste.

We've already got one Kong, and the possibility of a badguy (King Krool) coming in, so why an extra? Diddy would basically be a DK clone, maybe one or two different moves, but really, I think they're are more useful/deserving characters than them.

I don't mind Diddy being in Brawl, but I think there's a lot of other potential characters that would be more fitting for it.

Just ignore him people he doesn't know what he's talking about

 

[Wet Fish KO]

i think that kazuya has a good point, Diddy kong would basicly have all the same moves as DK just like young like has just about all the same moves as link (young like has fire arrows and link doesnt).
I really dont think that they will bother putting diddy into brawl cos as far as my knowledge goes about diddy kong, he only appears when DK gets hit by something, that wud be just stupid if that happend in brawl as you wud be changing between them both throught the whole match.

 

[Numa Dude]

Diddy has tons of possibilities for original moves like he could use his peanut pistol or his guitar from DK64.

 

[Wet Fish KO]

Diddy has tons of possibilities for original moves like he could use his peanut pistol or his guitar from DK64.

Even still, with those two different moves, i still highly dout that he will be a playable character. Maybe he will appear in the adventure mode or in the backround in some of the new battlegrounds in SSBB.

 

[LukeFonFabre]

Have you actually played any DK games with Diddy Kong in it? If you have you should easily be able to see how different he would be from DK. Trust me, he won't be a clone unless Sakurai's completely lost it, which I'm pretty sure he hasn't.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

Just ignore him people he doesn't know what he's talking about

Yeah, obviously.

 

[parrothead]

This Donkey Kong JR. topic is turning into a "Donkey Kong JR. VS. Diddy Kong" argument thread. Better discuss about Diddy Kong in his thread, before Donkey Kong JR. throws some fruits and KlapTraps at him.

And by the way, according to the Japanese Wikipedia article for Donkey Kong JR., he will appear in Mario Party 8, which will increase his popularity.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

This Donkey Kong JR. topic is turning into a "Donkey Kong JR. VS. Diddy Kong" argument thread. Better discuss about Diddy Kong in his thread, before Donkey Kong JR. throws some fruits and KlapTraps at him.

And by the way, according to the Japanese Wikipedia article for Donkey Kong JR., he will appear in Mario Party 8, which will increase his popularity.

SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?!?

W00T!!!!! YEAH! This calls for a celebration!

:bigthumbu

 

[shadenexus18]

Bump! Maybe him being as a trophy on Melee is an indication that he'll make a comeback. Man, last time I saw him was on the classic Super Mario Kart and on Mario Tennis for the 64.

Primates rule!

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

This Donkey Kong JR. topic is turning into a "Donkey Kong JR. VS. Diddy Kong" argument thread. Better discuss about Diddy Kong in his thread, before Donkey Kong JR. throws some fruits and KlapTraps at him.

And by the way, according to the Japanese Wikipedia article for Donkey Kong JR., he will appear in Mario Party 8, which will increase his popularity.

Yeah! woot! I was hoping that after pit made a comeback and had a trophy maby others would too. But I don't know if I trust wikipedia...

 

[Brawlmatt202]

Yeah! woot! I was hoping that after pit made a comeback and had a trophy maby others would too. But I don't know if I trust wikipedia...

I go there all the time, and Iusually trust what it says.

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

I go there all the time, and Iusually trust what it says.

Yeah, but its made by other people who could say whatever they want... so I am kinda effy about that. but then again I dobt anyone would waste their time with it... I just don't like
getting my hopes up.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

Yeah, but its made by other people who could say whatever they want... so I am kinda effy about that. but then again I dobt anyone would waste their time with it... I just don't like
getting my hopes up.

I usually can tell when an article or something sounds opinionated.

It sometimes affects my opinions on the matter as well.

 

[parrothead]

SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?!?

W00T!!!!! YEAH! This calls for a celebration!

:bigthumbu

Here is something to cheer with. This is a Flash-powered, Game & Watch Donkey Kong II emulator. To play it, use the arrow keys to move left, right, up (to climb up) and down (to climb down), and use the mouse to click on the Jump Button on the right.

Link.

 

[Smash Ninja]

I really want to see DKjr in Brawl!

He's retro, forgotton, and even beat DK to Mario Kart the first time round!

He was truely a legend and I would enjoy to see him return.

If I can I will work on a possible moveset soon...

 

[xianfeng]

DK Jr is Donkey Kong, just when he was a baby, at least according DKC canon.

 

[Smash Ninja]

DK Jr is Donkey Kong, just when he was a baby, at least according DKC canon.

You clearly have not played DKII (arcade) back in the 80's. Second dk game ever, DKjr was his son trying to save DK from Mario after the events of the first game. I have it on Game & Watch ^_^

It sounds like you are thinking of baby DK from Yoshis Island DS...

 

[Diddy Kong]

No he isn't, that DK wasn't the DK from nowadays that was Cranky Kong according to Rare. So DK Jr. is the current Donkey Kong aka the one we have in Brawl now.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Donkey Kong from the Arcades is Cranky Kong, and Dk Jr. is DK.

With assist trophies, I hope we can see him in the game

 

[Smash Ninja]

Donkey Kong from the Arcades is Cranky Kong, and Dk Jr. is DK.

With assist trophies, I hope we can see him in the game

No he isn't, that DK wasn't the DK from nowadays that was Cranky Kong according to Rare. So DK Jr. is the current Donkey Kong aka the one we have in Brawl now.

But wasnt that just according to Rare? As in not completely official?

Do remember that Miyamoto has a lot of influence to the decisions made in Smash, and that the first DK game was his fave game he ever worked on, so he would practically demand for the original DK to be in. DKjr does not = current DK according to Miyamoto... DK' CREATOR!!!!!

Plus that would mean Mario is really REALLY old by now XD

That whole thing you just said, was Rare trying to make thier own game work and make it thier own. Plus if original DK is Cranky, why was he renamed as he got older?

ALSO, Mario vs Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis proves this wrong as well, as it uses the current DK, but is constantly reffered to asthe "rematch" between Mario and DK's past rivalry. And Pauline is the same person, and is still young.

ONE MORE THING: in the Game Boy remake of the original DK game, DK is seen with the tie that thecurrent DK wears, despite it being the same characters, story, setting, and time.


Sorry, I think you are wrong, as legendary as Rare are, do not listen to a wod they say about DK.

 

[NukeA6]

Donkey Jr. will be in Brawl... as a name to one of Game & Watch's moves.

 

[parrothead]

According to Rare, the developers of Donkey Kong Country, there are multiple Donkey Kongs, with the modern one who appears from Donkey Kong Country and onward is actually a grown-up version of Junior himself. However, in the actual in-game dialogue, Cranky refers to the current Donkey Kong as his "grandson" and Nintendo has interpreted this literally, referring to the current Donkey Kong as the grandson of the original. However, this relationship is often ignored or downplayed in more recent games, as Donkey Kong is often referred as Mario's "old rival" (particularly in Mario vs. Donkey Kong and Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis), which could imply he is either the same Donkey Kong as the original or DK Jr. (as Mario was the enemy in Donkey Kong Jr.). Interestingly, the character Diddy Kong was going to be a updated version of Donkey Kong Junior. However, Nintendo did not like this idea, suggesting either to give him his old look or make him a new character. Rare chose the latter and Donkey Kong Junior became Diddy Kong.

SOURCE

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

According to Rare, the developers of Donkey Kong Country, there are multiple Donkey Kongs, with the modern one who appears from Donkey Kong Country and onward is actually a grown-up version of Junior himself. However, in the actual in-game dialogue, Cranky refers to the current Donkey Kong as his "grandson" and Nintendo has interpreted this literally, referring to the current Donkey Kong as the grandson of the original. However, this relationship is often ignored or downplayed in more recent games, as Donkey Kong is often referred as Mario's "old rival" (particularly in Mario vs. Donkey Kong and Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis), which could imply he is either the same Donkey Kong as the original or DK Jr. (as Mario was the enemy in Donkey Kong Jr.). Interestingly, the character Diddy Kong was going to be a updated version of Donkey Kong Junior. However, Nintendo did not like this idea, suggesting either to give him his old look or make him a new character. Rare chose the latter and Donkey Kong Junior became Diddy Kong.

SOURCE

Old news rocks.

 

[Manny G.]

I think he is going to appear as ether an AT or a regular trophy.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

I think he is going to appear as ether an AT or a regular trophy.

An assist Trophy actually sounds good at this point!

 

[volbound1700]

I found a solution to the issue here, the DK from the originals could be Cranky in DKC and DK March of the Minis could be set in a time not long after the original DK and the DK in March of the Minis could be Cranky.

Also DKC could be set long after Mario and any other games, afterall you have to consider that DKC and the Mushroom Kingdom are the same world since DK and Mario run into each other constantly. Perhaps the Kremlins, etc. are a new evil that came about long after the time of Mario and Bowser and the DKs rose to take the place of Mario as saviors of the mushroom kingdom (Or perhaps the DKs and Kremlins never left that world to the new galaxy as you see Mario, Bowser, and Mushroom People in the ending of Mario Galaxy).

 

[Biggie Smalls]

Anybody remember th Donkey Kong Jr. arcade game? It was rather popular. It still is one of my favorite arcade/NES games of all time, so it is up there with my favorite nintendo games ever made. So.. anyone who thinks DK JR deserves a second chance, show your support!! Also, this for EVERYONE'S OPINION, so if you show discontent, show it here.

Dk Jr. is to Diddy as
The Koopa Kids are to Bowser Jr.

So technically, he's in Brawl.

 

[CT Chia]

i really cant see him making a comeback now with diddy in the picture. he'll probably have a trophy, with a SMALL chance of an AT. small though, like, 10% chance tops

 

[shadenexus18]

Bump! This thread so needs to be rekindled.

Seriously, I really wanted to see him get in before Diddy. Now that Diddy is in, I don't think he'll make it. Still, he could probably as an assist trophy. I mean, he was a regular trophy on Melee so I suppose that counts for something.

 

[S2]

People seem to forget that DKjr was never popular.

As a character he just didn't cut it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't his last playable appearance Mario Kart on SNES? And what happened? He got cut in all sequels to make way for regular DK.

Diddy on the other hand has had a fanbase since he was introduced back in '94.


As for the "story"... Mario games really aren't made with a canonized story in mind. Good luck trying to make any sense as to how all of Mario's adventures, spin-offs (like the Paper Mario sub-franchise), sub-franchises (Wario, Yoshi, etc), and Donkey Kong fit together. Heck some might even consider the Stafy games part of this (Wario shows up in a major role in Stafy 3).

that's not including any sports/party game. Only games with storylines.


Mario is not a story based narrative. They are set up like episodic adventures.

 

[vesperview]

The last thing we need is two DK's, seriously.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't his last playable appearance Mario Kart on SNES? And what happened? He got cut in all sequels to make way for regular DK.

He was in the first two Mario Tennis titles.

 

[shadenexus18]

People seem to forget that DKjr was never popular.

As a character he just didn't cut it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't his last playable appearance Mario Kart on SNES? And what happened? He got cut in all sequels to make way for regular DK.

Diddy on the other hand has had a fanbase since he was introduced back in '94.


As for the "story"... Mario games really aren't made with a canonized story in mind. Good luck trying to make any sense as to how all of Mario's adventures, spin-offs (like the Paper Mario sub-franchise), sub-franchises (Wario, Yoshi, etc), and Donkey Kong fit together. Heck some might even consider the Stafy games part of this (Wario shows up in a major role in Stafy 3).

that's not including any sports/party game. Only games with storylines.


Mario is not a story based narrative. They are set up like episodic adventures.

Popular, popular, POPULAR!! That's all I ever hear now a days! Who cares if Dk Jr. wasn't popular. He's still got one ace up his sleeve. He is RETRO, and that's exactly what Sakurai wants in Brawl. If Pit can make it then so can Dk Jr. He will not be long and forgotten like the Koopa Kids.

And Dk.Jr latest title was Mario Tennis for the 64.

 

[hello_kitty]

The last thing we need is two DK's, seriously.
.

I agree

 

[shadenexus18]

The last thing we need is two DK's, seriously.



He was in the first two Mario Tennis titles.

You should DK Jr. with Diddy, not DK himself seeing how Diddy and DK Jr. are agile, acrobatic, and faster than DK.

And just because DK and DK Jr. bare the same name does not mean that he shouldn't get in for that reason, and for that reason alone. That's like saying Bowser Jr. can't come in because he bares the same name as his father.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Popular, popular, POPULAR!! That's all I ever hear now a days! Who cares if Dk Jr. wasn't popular. He's still got one ace up his sleeve. He is RETRO, and that's exactly what Sakurai wants in Brawl. If Pit can make it then so can Dk Jr. He will not be long and forgotten like the Koopa Kids.

And Dk.Jr latest title was Mario Tennis for the 64.

Diddy's still more important, well known and has appeared in far more games than DK Jr. It was only logical that he was included before DK Jr. Nintendo themselves didn't even used him after Mario Tennis 64, cause they didn't knew they owned Diddy back then. Now that they completely own him, he's been replacing DK Jr. as DK's 'partner' in Mario sport games ever since. That, and Diddy's of coarse more popular.

DK Jr. also wouldn't make a good retro representitive cause the DK series is still an active franchise (still not as good as it used ot be...). Besides, I don't think that DK Jr's unique enough to provide more than a Luigified DK clone. If they would've include a retro DK character they'd be better of with Stanley the Bugman.