Do you think nintendo will still be making GC controllers for brawl?

[SirChubbs]

Okay so, based off what we have heard, there is a very good chance brawl will use the GC controller, however, we also know that the GC is starting to no longer be in production.

Now, if brawl comes out in like dec. and no more GC controllers are being made, and it uses the GC controller, im going to be mad because If my controller breaks, Im screwed.

What I hope, is they make a wireless controller WITH rumble for the wii to play games made for the GC or that use it, because that would really lower my worries of breaking a controller and not being able to buy a new one, and then I wouldn't need to move my Wii w.e I play smash.

 

[Superstar]

Last I checked, you can buy N64 controllers at Nintendo's online store [for the same price as if they were in]. Same should go for Gamecube, you can just buy one online.

 

[SirChubbs]

Really? I didn't know that. Guess that ends my worry

 

[pesticide]

why not just stock up on controllers now and save yourself the trouble of getting one later?

 

[SirChubbs]

I could do that, but I have no money.

 

[Plomid]

im hoping for a white and shiny one :L(<-thats drooling) to be bundled with the game ...or sumfin.

 

[i8waffles612]

I just want brawl to give you the option of using whichever controller you prefer. That would be a lot better for everyone...

Oh and there were no GC controllers at Walmart when I brought Melee like a month ago... so I brought 2 on Ebay.....lol... 2 GC controllers for $20 and a Memory card for $5

 

[Superstar]

About the online N64 controller, here is the link

VERY LONG LINK

Of course, SNES is COMPLETELY discontinued, they only have manuals. I assume same goes for NES. Soon, N64 might be completely out of the picture, but GCN controllers will still be here for a while, remember, Wii uses GCN controllers for old games, how can they completely get rid of GCN controllers?

The reason you don't see them in stores is because stores stockpile popular items only. I remember when I needed a new monitor, the only ones in stores were LCD, and I wanted a cheap CRT. The only way to get a CRT was online, and since they are heavy, the shipping and handling was +$40. It was more economical to buy an LCD at the store, so that's what I did. I was gone from SWF for about a week cause of that.

 

[killbeast301]

What I hope, is they make a wireless controller WITH rumble for the wii to play games made for the GC or that use it

They could call it the Wii controller block and tuse it for ome wii games that currently use the Classic controller. I too hate that stick position.

 

[EnFerris]

No. Well, yes, but they won't do it just for Brawl. They'll do it for people who still use gamecubes. But they won't do it for brawl for one reason: Classics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Controller#Classic_Controller

For christ's sake. Games like this are what the classic controller was designed for! How could anyone think that Brawl will ONLY be compatible with Gamecube controllers? Nintendo isn't going to want people to be playing one of their premier games with last-gen tecchnology, much less have it played with gamecube controllers at demos and shown on TV with them.

You realize that all this assumnption is because Sakurai said: "We found that trying to implement too much motion-sensory functionality can get in the way of the game. We're looking at keeping the control simple, as it has been. The Wii hardware has sockets for the GameCube controller, too. So I'll just say now that you may not want to throw away your GCN controller yet," yes?

Gamecube compatibility will be a perk. At best. A convenient feature for people who have gamecube controllers and don't want to splurge on a Classic. (i'm not going to buy three more). But the game will NOT be built around the gamecube controller, no more than Melee would be built around the N64 controller.

 

[chlor0form]

I think the gamecube controller is the most comfortable I've played yet. The new design is interesting, but since they designed it off of the classic NES controller, I have my doubts of its practicality. Although, it shouldn't be hard to find gamecube controllers online or just stock up as pesticide said. ~

 

[Mars-]

No. Well, yes, but they won't do it just for Brawl. They'll do it for people who still use gamecubes. But they won't do it for brawl for one reason: Classics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Controller#Classic_Controller

For christ's sake. Games like this are what the classic controller was designed for! How could anyone think that Brawl will ONLY be compatible with Gamecube controllers? Nintendo isn't going to want people to be playing one of their premier games with last-gen tecchnology, much less have it played with gamecube controllers at demos and shown on TV with them.

You realize that all this assumnption is because Sakurai said: "We found that trying to implement too much motion-sensory functionality can get in the way of the game. We're looking at keeping the control simple, as it has been. The Wii hardware has sockets for the GameCube controller, too. So I'll just say now that you may not want to throw away your GCN controller yet," yes?

Gamecube compatibility will be a perk. At best. A convenient feature for people who have gamecube controllers and don't want to splurge on a Classic. (i'm not going to buy three more). But the game will NOT be built around the gamecube controller, no more than Melee would be built around the N64 controller.

Rofl, what are you talking about? The NES controller doesn't have enough buttons to be used for brawl. There is no possible way it will be used for brawl.

 

[Superstar]

This is the classic controller

Not a Nes controller.

But the L and R don't look like the pushy button type on the GC controller [trigger or analog, don't know]. Please tell me I'm wrong. If so, then you can't alter the shield strength, or they might remove that in Brawl, as people usually use the strongest setting anyways.

 

[RVD_fan]

I think the game should come with GC controller.

 

[DarkFr0g]

Why would it be only for the GC/CC controller? That'd just be stupid marketing, noone would buy 4 controllers just to play one Wii game. Sakurai said that the battles won't use motion-sensing, and that he didn't want to ALIENATE the old players, so he is probably giving the OPTION to play it with GC controllers, as well as the Wiichukmote. The Wiimote+Nunchuk have enough buttons, so why not?

A = A attack
B = B attack
D-pad = Taunt OR C-stick replacement
1 = Taunt if not used for the above
Z = Shield
C = Alternative jump button?
Stick = Movement

 

[Blazer]

I agree with Darkfr0g. The wiimote would work just as well as a GC controller. You guys just don't want to waste time getting used to it. Lol.

 

[Superstar]

Actually, it would not work as well for me, mainly since C-sticked combos would be harder to pull off. But, a non-enthusiast would not care which controller to use, so it does not matter. Might be a bit better that way, as long as I can still use my GCN controller I'm happy.

 

[RVD_fan]

Well, SHP's don't wanna rework there whole strategies using the wii-mote.

 

[freeman123]

I bet you can use the classic controller for Brawl too.

 

[GreenMamba]

But the L and R don't look like the pushy button type on the GC controller [trigger or analog, don't know]. Please tell me I'm wrong. If so, then you can't alter the shield strength, or they might remove that in Brawl, as people usually use the strongest setting anyways.

The shoulder buttons on the Classic Controller are analogue, just like the GCN controller's.

 

[Superstar]

Whew thanks, didn't know. I've never actually touched a Classic controller, and they didn't look analogue from the picture, so I was not sure. Looking at that, the Classic Controller is perfectly suitable for Brawl. However, with the amount of time I'm going to be putting into Brawl, I want an option for GCN controllers, as Classic Controllers are wireless with a dangling WiiMote [unless you buy a periphial]. Every pro playing with a classic controller is seriously bad for the environment.

 

[GreenMamba]

Yeah, I honestly didn't think the shoulder buttons were analogue until I actually put my hands on the controller. They definitely look digital, but they're analogue.

 

[SGX]

I'll probably pick up a CC when Brawl comes out. I've always preferred shoulder buttons with a short travel as opposed to GC/Xbox style triggers. I think it would make L-canceling easier.

 

[Superstar]

Actually, L-cancel is easy with chunky shoulder buttons. Just press it hard, and let it go fast. I always press it hard for everything, helps you get used to it.

Having Analogue is good for intensity. You know when you shield you can set the power, or in game like Super Mario Sunshine you set the water pressure? That's what Analogue is good for.

 

[SliK]

Wii-cube controller would be awesome i like wireless but the wave birds gigantic battery and the way it feels i just don't like.

 

[Mr.GAW]

Here's a post I made a while ago with a control setup for Wii Remote + Nunchuck.

NUNCHUCK
Anolog: Move and Jump
Z Button: Attack (A Button on GC)
C Button: Attack (B Button on GC)

WII REMOTE
D-Pad Smash Attack (Like the C-Stick on GC)
A Button: Jump
B Button (Trigger): Air Dodge/Sheild
+ (Plus) Button: Pause
- Button: Options or nothing
1 Button: Possibly enter crawling form from a crouch. Otherwise its nothing.
2 Button: Super Smash Attack. (1 Button and 2 Button controls are interchangeable)

BUTTON COMBINATIONS
B+C: Grab/Pick up Item/Catch Item/Throw Item
B+Down: Airdodge

As far as I'm concerned, this control setup would work perfectly. There would be no motion control, so that you don't have to be "waving your arms all over the place."
Wavedashing would be a fluid, almost better motion than melee. (A+B+Control Stick)
SHFFLing would be cake, quickly tap the A button for a SH, fastfall, L-Cancel with B.

If anybody sees any problems with this setup let me know, but it looks good to me.

That being said, I would still prefer to use a GC controller just because it is more familiar to me. I beleive that Nintendo will release Brawl with Wiimote Nunchuck controls, but people with GC or Classic controllers can use that too.

This way, Nintendo doesn't have to worry about producing GC Controllers for the next 6 years, and they also don't have to release the game with its own controller.

Problem Solved.

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http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=97750&page=3&highlight=Remote

The thread above actually has some great thoughts on what will happen concerning controllers and Brawl.

Basically, from what I've heard, Nintendo has stopped distributing GC controllers to retailers already, but still keeps them in production for purchase from their website.

Brawl will undoubtably have a setup that works for Wiimote nunchuck simply because they won't have enough GC controllers to sell later to late Brawl buyers.

Think of it this way.... do you think Nintendo still has enough N64 controllers in production to satisfiy the needs of those currently still purchasing melee? No way.

Anyways, I highly recommend you check out that thread I posted.

 

[Classic-Black]

Brawl will undoubtably have a setup that works for Wiimote nunchuck simply because they won't have enough GC controllers to sell later to late Brawl buyers.

Think of it this way.... do you think Nintendo still has enough N64 controllers in production to satisfiy the needs of those currently still purchasing melee? No way.

Anyways, I highly recommend you check out that thread I posted.

They don't have to map it to the Wiimote, or continue making Cube controllers. Two words: Classic Controller

problem solved

 

[Mr.GAW]

Read the thread I posted Classic Black. They WILL NOT make Brawl with only a CC control scheme.

 

[Sensai]

I believe the simple answer is 'no'.

 

[Mr.GAW]

Agreed. Even if some GC controllers are still being made for Ninty's site, it will not be for Brawl.

 

[L5LM_Gtlink]

I'd like to know what the standard controller for brawl will be. And how the wiimote and nunchuk will play with it. Im sure there wont be any motion sensing, but it could still work

 

[Sensai]

I honestly would be very surprised if the standard controller was anything besides the Classic Controller.

 

[Shai Hulud]

I honestly would be very surprised if the standard controller was anything besides the Classic Controller.

You're probably right, but I really hope the game works well with the GC controller. There's no reason it shouldn't, since the engines are probably almost identical, but you never know.

I claw the GC controller and that classic thing looks like it would be pretty awkward to hold in anything but a traditional grip.

 

[L5LM_Gtlink]

I think that would be a foolish move on Nintendo's part. The standard controller has to be the wiimote and nunchuck. You can't expect brawl to sell when the standard controller is non standard for the console.

 

[Sensai]

^^^

That really stopped them for Fire Emblem, eh?

And Shai, have you held one? They're not as bad as you think...they're actually really comfortable.

 

[KevinM]

Yea their not bad to hold, but again i use claw like Shai for my quicker characters and it doesn't work i just tried it just feels off cause of the placement of the buttons

 

[Mr.GAW]

Sensai, keep in mind FE is a 1-player game, just to clarify for people who think Brawl will use ONLY the CC, not that thats impossible, but highly unlikley.

 

[Sensai]

GAW, I'm not sure that I understand your point there.

Yes, FE's a one player game, but I don't think that makes any difference at - - - - Nevermind. Gocha.

 

[Shadow10]

Brawl will have to use the GC controller, and nintendo will have to continue making the controller for their most popular game ever...

 

[Classic-Black]

Brawl will have to use the GC controller, and nintendo will have to continue making the controller for their most popular game ever...

Nintendo won't have to make GC controllers, when people can just buy CC controllers. If you have GC controllers, then they'll most likely work for BRAWL