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Sony had nothing to do with it, they lost the rights to Crash 15 years ago, and now Activision owns the rights to him, and they're the ones who "buried" him.
Considering how big the series was back in the day & how unpopular it is now, I don't think any series died as hard as Crash did. Had the series ended dignifyingly with CTR instead of being led to ruin with the 9-year post-Naughty Dog downward spiral, I don't think there would be as much hate. I really don't care much about popularity, but Crash being as iconic as he was in the 90's and having almost no chance of being in smash (despite the Nintendo/Activision partnership) is extremely disappointing. But oh well.
From what I've read, it was Universal Interactive Studios that was the problem. Naughty Dog did all the developing & Sony did the marketing. Aside from Mark Cerny's efforts, Universal wasn't doing much for the series. For the most part they were just milking the series for every penny it was worth & I think they were getting like 50% of the profits. Crash was partly owned by Universal so there wasn't much Sony or Naughty Dog could do. And when Naughty Dog was burned out from making Crash games do you think they would just let them have a break? Nope. Their greed drove them to keep pushing for more Crash releases, even if it meant Naughty Dog permanently leaving the series behind. The greed of Universal led them to publish Crash games made by less gifted developers. The quality of the games sharply declined along with Crash's popularity. And it was all for the quick buck. Unsurprisingly sales declined and they eventually sold themselves to Vivendi which later merged with Activision. That's the mark of a crumby company. Had they been a cool company and gave Naughty Dog a well-deserved break from Crash to focus on other projects, Crash would probably be alive and well today and Universal would have probably made more money in the long run.
I knew I'd get a reply for that statement lol. Despite all of the heavy marketing, I don't think Bubsy was any where near as big of a hit with the masses as Crash was - especially in Japan. So I think Bubsy's decline was no where near as big as Crash's. Earthworm Jim's decline is unfortunate but I still don't think that series was as big as Crash was. Crash was about as popular as Sonic & Mario at one point in time. I have no idea what that other animation is. Probably the only death that can rival Crash's is Banjo's. Mega Man is not really dead if it's still owned by Capcom. Depending on Konami's uncertain future with video games, Snake & Bomberman could very well die off too, which would be as devastating as Crash's death. But I really hope that doesn't happen.are you sure?
It's Alex Kidd this guy was SEGA biggest hit before Sonic
Alex Kidd isn't really comparable to the other console mascots.
Banjo was quite the success but lacked the length of run Crash had. Megaman seems to be in a weird state of living off cameos and Bomberman is quite dead indeed, sadly. Crash might not have the sway he once did but he's still a well known name because of how iconic he once was and if Nintendo wants characters that made history, well, Crash is up there with Megaman, Banjo and Sonic. Not quite as genre defining as Pacman, Ryu and Bomberman (who is likely too in limbo to make it) but still a top contender.
*sniffle* this is beautifulSo after a time for thinking, I decided to join the cause of Crash Bandicoot! It's clearly too late... the Ballot will just end in the next month and he didn't get the attention he deserves.. But I'd like to help to spread some mockups and arguments that will stir people's imagination; If he (sadly) doesn't get this time, he'll be a relevant name in the market once again, with our help; --please, let me know what you guys think about my proposal, and share with friends, other boards, everywhere you can!
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I'll be working in some other things for these last days campaign
Thanks! Glad to know I'm reaching the right point! =D.. as I posted on the Nintendo Social Thread, here more things to better illustrate his presence in the game;
I honestly love your enthusiasm. It sucks to be a Crash Bandicoot fan just for the fact that people like to break your spirits whenever you want him for Smash, treating him like if hes not even on par with the other mascots in Smash, and yet people want Shovel Knight in the game.
Try not to take it to heart. Smash, in terms of who gets in & who doesn't, is just a popularity contest. I don't take it seriously any more since it's all about what's popular at the moment. Actual video game history counts for little. It doesn't matter how iconic a certain character was at one point in time. If the series it belongs to is allowed to rot for over a decade, hoards of people will crap all over it despite many of them not having played any of the games from when the series was in it's prime. A lot them are just jumping on the hate bandwagon because it's the cool thing to do. But they shouldn't laugh since their most cherished mascot could be next. The Metal Gear series would be case in point. With Hideo Kojima leaving Konami and Metal Gear altogether, who knows what will become of the series. Snake could be where Crash is in a decade from now. Who knows. That's why I don't take the smash roster seriously anymore. At this point my only hope is that we don't get anymore cloned movesets.
I'm very enthusiastic, yes.. but I'm also a little disappointed how people are treating Crash's position. How could it be? He's literally the only A-Rank mascot out there which is not in Smash yet. I mean, I love many of my other 3rd Party supported characters, but with impact in the videogame industry as Crash did, are few. Just as @
Kabutops
said, seems to be more a popularity contest than anything... which is a shame. But even with our chances not looking very good we can't give up!
Thats great! Jason Rubin & Andy Gavin are the 2 main guys behind the development of the series. You could try contacting Gavin on his site: http://all-things-andy-gavin.com/video-games-archive/ (You may want to browse his articles on Crash & read his comments on them before contacting him so you can get a good idea of what his attitude is towards the series). You might be able to contact Rubin on twitter. Just tell them about Smash Bros being huge and how Crash's inclusion could revive the series. But be weary that they might not be enthusiastic about it. Understandably they've probably grown very pessimistic about the whole situation with Crash as many of us fans have as well. And they may not be too keen about Crash falling into the hands of Nintendo. I think they are still very much pro-Sony. But it's definitely worth a shot. Crash's situation can't possibly get any worse, can it?
and that's why I got a bit ashamed to contact some members of original ND saga. =P.. Crash's situation is a bit delicate when it comes of what the developers think about him. (although, excluding anything related to post Titans, I think they could get proud of Crash general reception in other consoles and continuity, IMO.) --The Twitter Campaign is already following Jason Rubin for a while now.. but I think I'll wait until he notices something.
), I think I'll be able to post at least his Specials later today. ~Keep the thread alive, people!
Agreed. Unless they hate Nintendo with a passion (i don't think they do), I can't see why they would object to him appearing in Smash. The naughty dogs can't do anything with crash anyways and smash would make him relevant again. I don't see how they'd prefer to just watch their creation slowly wither away.
Relevant, or Crash's burial grounds. Just like Mega Man
Chicken throw over Fruit Bazooka?What do you think guys?-- I'm still drafting the full moveset, but his I'd like to see this as his Specials. =)
Yeah, I thought that would be an interesting choice, and more original too (since everyone suggests the Bazooka, it's already sounding repetitive XD).. The thing with chickens that it would turn in a Hazard/Obstacle temporarily in the stage if it doesn't hit in the first try. =P (also, I thought that would be a nice throwback of this gag present in at least 3 games).
Definitely think Aku Aku Invisibility should be the Final Smash. People bring up the bazooka since it's such an obvious choice for a move. How about Fruit Bazooka as the down special and Super Belly Flop as the down air?Yeah, I thought that would be an interesting choice, and more original too (since everyone suggests the Bazooka, it's already sounding repetitive XD).. The thing with chickens that it would turn in a Hazard/Obstacle temporarily in the stage if it doesn't hit in the first try. =P (also, I thought that would be a nice throwback of this gag present in at least 3 games).
EDIT: regarding the Fruit Bazooka, always saw it more as a Final Smash material along with Aku Aku Invincibility
I'm trying to avoid similarities with other characters movesets, but as an option, I thought that the normal Belly Flop would be a Neutral Air and the Super version would remain as the Down Special. Hope to share the whole moveset soon. =)
those games doesn't count for many of us; they don't fit into the series flexibility nor expansion of concept; Also, pretty much they were the reason to Crash's limbo. Everyone has their tastes and preferences, of course.. and sure I can't talk by everybody, but I see a general consensus most of time.
Titans and Mind Over Mutant* has nothing to do with Activision, it was Sierra who published these games. And second.. where did Activision regressed his 2010 design?
Not blaming the company (I didn't mean that Activision was the responsible for the CooT/MoM tragedy, I said they noticed that was not a good idea, but I guess that was too late), just the games in particular.
