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Dissidia Mafia: Over Serial Killer Wiins! ~ Told you $#!* got real!

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smarboy69

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ninjaed.

but kuz, you need to think the way i think, i know how the mafia acts, and also, glyph backed out, yet another reason.

the mafia will do that stuff to make someone look scummy...it's not rocket science, it's not a theory, it's a fact.

tell me, when you are mafia, do you kill for no reason, or are you trying to make yourself look more pro-town?
Oh. My. God.

Soup. Shut the f*** up about all this f***ing s*** regarding... well... SWEARING YOU KNOW THE GOD DAMN GAME BETTER THAN US. "You need to think the way I think", coming from the guy who states acting f***ing anti town is good when you're town. G s*** b****. "I know how the mafia acts", OMG YOU DO?! I thought I remembered you saying this was your first mafia game, aside from epic mafia, which you should damn well know from the experience you've been having here, or even F***ING EVERYBODY SAYING IT'S DIFFERENT. So who's to say the mafia acts differently there than here?! "Glyph backed out, yet another reason". This game doesn't take 20 mins like epicmafia, you can't PLAN to be here all the god damn time if unexpected s*** pops up... "It's not rocket science, it's not a theory, it's a fact", NOTHING'S A FACT IN FORUM MAFIA, BECAUSE IT'S NOT MECANICALLY BASED LIKE THAT F***ING EPIC MAFIA S***. Don't get f***ing offended by this, but you will NEVER grow as a forum mafia player if you don't take that hump epic mafia off your back and admit that you're new to our game.

/end rant.

But I love that gem Kuz found. Imo hammers the nail in J's coffin toMorrow, but lets see if I can get the other half on board.
 

#HBC | J

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Your increase in activity is alone a plus, granted Glyph had a legit reason for this happening.

Glyph's few posts came off to me as being larger, but not really informative in a sense. I found your smaller but more posts to help town further in scum hunting.
How, how, how?

How were my posts a town tell for you? How were they furthering scum-hunting? Explain the word "larger" w.r.t. Glyph's posts. How were they not informative? (by saying in a sense you have no confidence in what you are saying correct?)

Increased activity? When was the last time I posted again? Granted I have almost no re-collection of most of what I did.

Prove with Quotes. Now please. ^^
 

#HBC | J

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Gboy, why am I scum again?

Tempted to not read more and just go off what I am seeing so far.

Not liking Gboy/RR atm.

Kuzi is town me thinks. Hmm need to probably read more to see my thoughts on him.

JTB's the lynch right? Someone wanna summarize that for me?
 

#HBC | J

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How?

Tell me specifics, don't leave me in the dark D=

What we talking here? Seen visiting the dead body? Cop investigatio?
 

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Oh. My. God.

Soup. Shut the f*** up about all this f***ing s*** regarding... well... SWEARING YOU KNOW THE GOD DAMN GAME BETTER THAN US. "You need to think the way I think", coming from the guy who states acting f***ing anti town is good when you're town. G s*** b****. "I know how the mafia acts", OMG YOU DO?! I thought I remembered you saying this was your first mafia game, aside from epic mafia, which you should damn well know from the experience you've been having here, or even F***ING EVERYBODY SAYING IT'S DIFFERENT. So who's to say the mafia acts differently there than here?! "Glyph backed out, yet another reason". This game doesn't take 20 mins like epicmafia, you can't PLAN to be here all the god damn time if unexpected s*** pops up... "It's not rocket science, it's not a theory, it's a fact", NOTHING'S A FACT IN FORUM MAFIA, BECAUSE IT'S NOT MECANICALLY BASED LIKE THAT F***ING EPIC MAFIA S***. Don't get f***ing offended by this, but you will NEVER grow as a forum mafia player if you don't take that hump epic mafia off your back and admit that you're new to our game.

/end rant.
Sounds like RoxPSI was right in his initial assessment of Soupamario!
 

#HBC | J

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Not liking Gboy as from what I have seen on these last couple pages.

So Kuzi saw JTB visit which body again? The Doc or the Cop?

Two NK's N1? Interesting, I'll say an SK.
 

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How, how, how?

How were my posts a town tell for you? How were they furthering scum-hunting? Explain the word "larger" w.r.t. Glyph's posts. How were they not informative? (by saying in a sense you have no confidence in what you are saying correct?)

Increased activity? When was the last time I posted again? Granted I have almost no re-collection of most of what I did.

Prove with Quotes. Now please. ^^
I like being brief. *sigh* looks like I'm gonna need to get this together. :urg:
 

#HBC | Ryker

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@RR If you have a problem, you should probably address it yourself instead of trying to get a player in trouble.
 

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Guys, I think the scum team is JTB, Soup, and RR.

When I started the game, I thought I was a vanilla townie because my role said vanilla townie. I figured "Hey VT don't have abilities, I know how to play a VT" and stopped reading. That's why my initial game is so clearly town.

Then Seph pointed out to me that I'm also neighbors with Soup. After that I got murky because I wasn't sure if I could trust him despite my initial read as town since he was a NEIGHBOR (unconfirmed alignment). I've been trying my best to talk to him in our QT, but he barely posted. Which really threw me off my game. I'm sure many of you know how much I love to talk to my partners when I have one in a game. And after all his mouthy bs, suddenly Soup cannot get online and won't talk?

It was weird but I wanted to give him a chance. I revealed that I am the Light Warrior from FF1. You can see several breadcrumbs early game. I asked him his character and role, and he was very quiet about the matter. He hinted that he was fast and brave. I guessed Zidane (before Roxy's flip).

Several days passed, almost a week, and no response of any kind. I prod him on thread with how he needed to communicate better and then poked him on QT asking if he read it any more. Suddenly he posts several times with this inane plan of convincing people that he's a jester so scum won't get him lynched. And how he hopes I'm town and won't ruin his plan.

I could probably have just shook my head and walked away from that, but then he claimed that yes he is Zidane. I asked Seph privately if his post that Roxy was Zidane was correct, and Seph said yes it was.

This leaves two options. 1) He really is a jester and far smarter than we gave him credit. I think this is highly unlikely because jester is such an unpopular role in SWF.

2) He's scum and slipped bad.

He's never asked my opinion or pushed for either RR or JTB.

JTB did vote for Soup. Post 54 (easily a RVS) and post 371. He does give some reason as pressure to Soup and for Soup's scummy push on RF. He's gone for a long time and when he does come back, he makes a big list of his reactions to people in post 422. His reaction to JTB is basically "null, but he's cool". Then in post 490, JTB posts "This thread exploded overnight. Glad to see you back Soup." AND THAT'S ALL THE PRESSURE HE GIVES! JTB unvotes and says he needs to think about stuff. JTB doesn't vote again until post 604 on Roxy.

Meanwhile Soup is posting tons but he's not doing any private investigation to find out more about his neighbor. No QT posts, no pms and he claims he's not on chat except hotmail which I cannot really access.

Also, I think RR's buddying of J is just plain scummy. J hasn't really contributed yet and I can see how a player who jumped into 40 ppp 40 page game would have trouble giving any thoughts at this time. But RR seems to practically latch onto him.

Anyway, that's my story. Sorry it's so long.
 

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Wow I love how this game's going.

Red Ryu answer my question. I'm gonna try and say this every time I post so there's no dodging of it 'till you get back and actually answer.

Liking what I see from Tandora.

Gord's lynch pool is obv JTB toDay, J/Soup/Tan/RR toMorrow imo, in order of preference, and Smargz' is Tan/Soup/J/RR toMorrow iirc . Leniency is definitely possible though, and methinks Tan's gonna be pulled down her lynch list after this claim.
 

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Wow, my english tonight.

So you read that you were a vt and then didn't keep reading the role pm to realize you were neighbors?

Soup, do you acknowledge that Tandora is your neighbor?
 

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If soup IS scum, then Glyph/J is not scum and the obv scum team would be JTB/Soup/RR imo.

Damn...that looks so solid.
 

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Tandora said:
I'm concerned that Soup disappeared off the face of the earth. Did he post a V/LA and I forgot? I wish I could sit down with him and get to know him better with a one-to-one conversation, but you know how that goes.
Good enough for me.

Soup, full claim the next time you see this post.

Tandora can you post stuff from the qt? Particularly his Jester plan and his claim of Zidane?
 

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5 posts in a row? Easy.

JTB, you should claim too. I came across some info that could possibly SAVE your life if you claim what I think you're going to.
 

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Don't see why Soup should full claim? Most of Tandora's post could easily be lies and a lot of it can't be confirmed without getting somebody else modkilled.

Tandora, answer this please: Do you think Soup's assumed scumbuddies would be OK with the way he's playing and acting? Even though it's WIFOM the risk for playing like Soup does is a lot bigger than the potential reward. Don't you think he'd try to be a bit more subtle about his manipulations? Did you actually think through your claims and your theories before revealing them to the open? I have my doubts about it to be honest.

I'm curious for Soup's full response but I'm highly skeptical towards Tandora's claim.

:059:
 

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And Ryu I really don't have the slightest clue how you get your reads. You get a town read on J for his "increased activity" but you try to get smar modkilled even though JTB's flip will most likely semi-clear him for us anyway?

:059:
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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@Smar's rant.

asking fodder questions like 'if i were vigil' or 'if i was doc' is basically a scumtell.

why would town care about something so fodder?

yes, i am new to this game, i know it's not the same of EM, but it's a pretty obvious tell.

sorry. >.>
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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@kuz.

Onion knight.

Vanilla Townie.

i mixed it up with zidane because i thought that there were only one specific townie role (YES LIKE IN EM HOW THERE IS ONLY BLUES) but just saying.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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also to kuz again.

WIFOM is not theory speculation, WIFOM is reverse psychology, it's a way of manipulation and trickery to get into someone's head.

i.e "this wine in front of me is poisioned."

and you're supposed to go

"OH **** IS HE ****ING WITH ME?"
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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i don't even know why everyone WAS claiming.

kuz asked me to, so i did.
 

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So we've pretty much mass claimed now. Assuming Gheb is also a VT all we have to do now is PAWN DEM SCUM.

Make sure Smar hammers. No-one else, that way we get the extra ability.
 

smarboy69

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@RR

Ya already know.

Radical Swiss said:
Make sure Smar hammers. No-one else, that way we get the extra ability.
... ?

Welp, I can't decide whether I believe Soup or not... so I'll probz let Smargz decide for me. Or we'll talk it out. But meh. Too early to decide.
 

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Well, with Soup's explanation matching [and I also believe the Zidane - Vanilla confusion-thing] I don't see why him and Tandora would lie about it at the same time. The question is how Tandora will react to his response because the neighbor status obviously doesn't clear him for her [and vice versa]. My main concern is people like smar giving Tandora the free pass upon her claim and allowing her to continue coasting like she did for the most part under the pretext of the "boring" vanilla role PM. That won't fly with me and none of Tandora's input has given us anything to work with in terms of scum hunting. I still think she's scum.

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I had this in mind when writing the above post but forgot to type it out:

As far as I'm aware we have learned absolutely nothing that will give us anything useful to work with for toDay but it looks like a big revelation to make and may bedazzle superficial players. In fact, I can easily see Scumdora making a play like that.

What was the point of the revelation other than to feign input for your own credibility? Our lynch toDay is more than clear at this point and if people are tired of Soup's WIFOM muck you just made things a good bit worse here.

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