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Dissidia Mafia: Over Serial Killer Wiins! ~ Told you $#!* got real!

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hidajiremi

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this is a game of deception.
The only reason town should ever lie is to prevent their role from being revealed--and even that's a slim justification at best. Lying is anti-town. Defending it with something as vague as "That's the game!" isn't helpful, and is extremely disingenuous.
 

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@ Mod request Hidajiremi modkill for trolling us. We are offended but do not want to replace out as we are DayVig.
 

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The only reason town should ever lie is to prevent their role from being revealed--and even that's a slim justification at best. Lying is anti-town. Defending it with something as vague as "That's the game!" isn't helpful, and is extremely disingenuous.
a game of deception, either way.

town lies to trick who they suspect is mafia, and the vice-versa, if you don't lie in this game, you are not going anywhere, and self-metaing saying you always tell the truth is worse.
 

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FoS: Gheb_01
the reason i am FoS'ing Gheb is because i thought he would either be docced, or die.

he was leading, so i would think the doc would doc him, but no, the doctor himself died, and so did our cop.
And how exactly can you tell whether I was actually docced or not? Not only that but we also have a claimed town aligned watcher making a night kill attempt against me a huge risk anyway. You seem to be awfully set on the idea that I "should" have been killed toNight as if night killing wasn't WIFOM ... we do NOT know about the mafia's powers and players so trying to figure out a pattern on what would be their ideal play and then go from there will not do us any good.

Furthermore the second paragraph implies that there's a correlation between me "leading" [which I actually did only at the start of D1] and the doc and the cop being night killed with the way you word it. You make it sound as if my death was due toNight and as a consequence it's my fault that the cop and the doc are dead now.

@Gheb & JTB, you are the two most players I most trust right now. Can you both give me your thoughts on why Vult may have been killed last Night? What were your reads on him going into the Night phase? Same question about Asdioh.
As far as connections are concerned neither flips has given us anything to work with - at least things we didn't know already. Asdioh's late attacks yesterDay against hida may or may not imply that he had a scumread on him but that's pretty much obsolete now anyway [unless somebody has a pro-town read on hida which I'd find hard to believe]. And I don't think Vult has done all that much that could be labeled as "genuine". IIRC he was voting for Tandora yesterDay but never took an actual stance to the whole issue making it impossible to take his posts at face value and draw viable conclusions from there. That was probably the main purpose of the night kills since neither of them were considered lynch targets at that time.

I thought Vult was scummy yesterDay ... Asdioh I was leaning null to town.

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JTB being the main target now is fine with me. While I'm not the "follow the cop" kind of player I don't think the way he reacted to the revelation was a surprised townie but more a panicking scumbag. It's mainly the switch of stances in regards to kuz [going from "wrong townie" to "lying scum"] that shows that he's just using whatever argument he's coming across to justify what happened.

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@Gheb

And how exactly can you tell whether I was actually docced or not?
I can't, i just assume you being Docced was the most logical thing, so i came to the conclusion that the doc was intercepted.

You make it sound as if my death was due toNight and as a consequence it's my fault that the cop and the doc are dead now.
if my Interceptor tangent is in play, then yes, i believe either the cop or doc was on you.

so gheb, thoughts on the DH claim on JTB?
do you feel that swiss is fake-claiming for kicks?
why do you think Tandora reacted so harshly? do you believe she is breaking into an opposed slip?
 

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Other than JTB my scum reads haven't changed too much. Glyph playerslot, Hida and Tandora can still die and are probably scum. The question is just which lynches take more priority but the play is definitely between them. If not then it's between Soup and Ryu but I really doubt that.

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Nevermind, I'm probably thinking too hard about this. JTB toDay, then Hida/Tanny, then Glyph.

I can't, i just assume you being Docced was the most logical thing, so i came to the conclusion that the doc was intercepted.
That's a pretty far fetched conclusion though because you're speculating on a role that's not common in forum mafia [although I understand it's occasionally used @EM] and assume that he immediately hit gold on N1. Chances for that are already slim enough, statistically speaking.

if my Interceptor tangent is in play, then yes, i believe either the cop or doc was on you.
Yes but it's very, very unlikely that it actually *is* in play. Not only do you speculate on an awfully unlikely scenario but you also have not shown any fruitful conclusion from that other than to prove that either the cop or doc was on me, which doesn't help us at all.

so gheb, thoughts on the DH claim on JTB?
do you feel that swiss is fake-claiming for kicks?
why do you think Tandora reacted so harshly? do you believe she is breaking into an opposed slip?
1.) Read above
2.) Yeah because he is ******** like that. Not even kidding.
3.) I have no idea what your question is. What do you mean by "opposed" slip?

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to #3: i feel that tandora is breaking under pressure, her posts get more and more foggy, and the way she reacted to RFiction was sad.

That's a pretty far fetched conclusion though because you're speculating on a role that's not common in forum mafia [although I understand it's occasionally used @EM] and assume that he immediately hit gold on N1. Chances for that are already slim enough, statistically speaking.
i know it's far-fetched but i believe the mafia has a special power in this game, hell....

i might even say that...

okay, so DH didn't die, but why didn't he get roleblocked?


Yes but it's very, very unlikely that it actually *is* in play. Not only do you speculate on an awfully unlikely scenario but you also have not shown any fruitful conclusion from that other than to prove that either the cop or doc was on me, which doesn't help us at all.
after talking with you, i think that the cop was on DH, and the doctor was just random doctoring, hell, he could have not docced at all.

i guess i should just assume mafia got really lucky.
 

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@ Mod request Hidajiremi modkill for trolling us. We are offended but do not want to replace out as we are DayVig.
You know what,mod? Please modkill one of us.

Posting offensively and then crying about being offended by something much milder than your normal behavior just proves how petty you are. And repeatedly saying "I'm DayVig!" doesn't make it true. You lied once already, and you're probably lying again now. And the fact that people are letting it slide bothers me almost as much as the fact that you're a rude *sshole. :mad:
 

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thinking this over...

there's many possible situations with this..
 

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Oh for the love of....

Do you guys have any respect for Sephiroth? I mean come on and quit with the petty ignorant comments and PLAY THE GAME.
 

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you know..i need to stop assuming who the doctor or who the cop doccing who and what there's too many possibilties, i need to go look at the relations instead.
 

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Oh for the love of....

Do you guys have any respect for Sephiroth? I mean come on and quit with the petty ignorant comments and PLAY THE GAME.
I've really been doing my best to be polite throughout this game, but there comes a point where you just can't put up with unreasonable behavior anymore. I'm sick of RF's attitude, nasty comments, and gleeful disrespect of every other player, not just me. Don't "you guys" in this direction without looking back over the thread and seeing that this crap has been going on all game long. I've just finally reached my breaking point. At the very least, Seph needs to step in and weigh in on his bad behavior.

Above and beyond that, RF is a liar--and his efforts at lying and muddying the water are anti-town behavior.
 

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I've really been doing my best to be polite throughout this game, but there comes a point where you just can't put up with unreasonable behavior anymore. I'm sick of RF's attitude, nasty comments, and gleeful disrespect of every other player, not just me. Don't "you guys" in this direction without looking back over the thread and seeing that this crap has been going on all game long. I've just finally reached my breaking point. At the very least, Seph needs to step in and weigh in on his bad behavior.

Above and beyond that, RF is a liar--and his efforts at lying and muddying the water are anti-town behavior.
 

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You know what,mod? Please modkill one of us.

Posting offensively and then crying about being offended by something much milder than your normal behavior just proves how petty you are. And repeatedly saying "I'm DayVig!" doesn't make it true. You lied once already, and you're probably lying again now. And the fact that people are letting it slide bothers me almost as much as the fact that you're a rude *sshole. :mad:
As pissy as RF is being he's playing the game as SWF allows it. I've been told by mods if a player wants to type ajfosdiafjdoasfikjd over and over, then he can. I've seen players post only in pics, song lyrics, as a old sea captain log style.

Rule #1, play so as to not offend others is a sticky rule. Many players curse and insult each other all game but are good friends on social. I've never really seen a player receive a consequence for breaking Rule #1 and I'm not really sure what is needed for that to be invoked.

Swiss's fake use of an ability is legit. I've seen other games where players fake hammered to get reactions. This game is about getting reactions.

I assure you they are not offended at your request at all. At worst, they probably think you're being either whiny or scum.

tl:dr Don't feed the trolls.

Dude, she's sick.
Sweety, I appreciate the comment, but it doesn't really help the game. Let's try to focus on scumhunting instead of how obnoxious RF is.

1) What do you think of DH's claim?
2) What do you think of Soup's reaction to all this? Are his questions legit?
3) What was your reaction to RF's "dayvig" on you? Don't reveal any PRs if you have any, but how did you feel?
 

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As pissy as RF is being he's playing the game as SWF allows it. I've been told by mods if a player wants to type ajfosdiafjdoasfikjd over and over, then he can. I've seen players post only in pics, song lyrics, as a old sea captain log style.

Rule #1, play so as to not offend others is a sticky rule. Many players curse and insult each other all game but are good friends on social. I've never really seen a player receive a consequence for breaking Rule #1 and I'm not really sure what is needed for that to be invoked.

Swiss's fake use of an ability is legit. I've seen other games where players fake hammered to get reactions. This game is about getting reactions.

I assure you they are not offended at your request at all. At worst, they probably think you're being either whiny or scum.

tl:dr Don't feed the trolls.
This is why I like you.
 

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*sigh*

Guess I'll just have to sift through the ignorant comments.

Anyways, I should probably get to reading this but I wanna see first if what RF did was real.
 

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No it's not.
It wouldn't be funny if he did it twice in one game.

Seriously though, I cannot imagine them doing it a second time. That's just bad form.

I forgive your lack of trust in me, J.
The Doctor: Amy. You need to start trusting me. It's never been more important.
Amy: But you don't always tell me the truth.
The Doctor: If I always told you the truth I wouldn't need you to trust me.
 
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