Dissidia Mafia: Over Serial Killer Wiins! ~ Told you $#!* got real!

[#HBC | Gorf]

FoS Glyph

I'll post good shiz when I have time.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@soup I see what you're trying to do with analyzing flips and shiz. Don't do that EM style stuff. Rely more on scum hunting and less on mechanics and game setup. It'll help your train of thought more.

 

[hidajiremi]

I feel bad about this whole thing, really, but we have to keep on trying. To start off, why did DH live through the night with a power role? Even a crappy one? Why did Gheb live through the night when he was pushing a leader position? I'm not confident enough in either of them to vote yet, considering how badly that went the last time, but I'm definitely suspicious.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Hida, go take a long walk off a short pier.

Why would you even TRY to jump into a WIFOM loaded argument like that? Are you mental?

Now, who's town lists are you on? You mentioned that multiple people have you there last twilight, so list them.

 

[Swiss]

 

[Tandora]

I feel bad about this whole thing, really, but we have to keep on trying. To start off, why did DH live through the night with a power role? Even a crappy one? Why did Gheb live through the night when he was pushing a leader position? I'm not confident enough in either of them to vote yet, considering how badly that went the last time, but I'm definitely suspicious.

DH's claim has always been treated as scummy. Despite his PR claim, it has been discussed in thread as relatively weak and considered by some as a good scum claim. Of course scum is gonna leave him alive.

Gheb is probably alive as previously stated, too town to target. I know I've lost NKs in two games as scum because I went for the most obvious town player N1. I've seen scum randomly pick a player with few connections to make it harder for town to get any reads off the NK1.

Here's a list of the vote counts given by the mod for 3/8 and 3/9. Times listed are approximations EST.


3-8 2pm
[5] Glyph: RoxPSI, Red Ryu, Soupamario, JTB, Tandora,
[2] hidajiremi: Asdioh, RadicalFiction,
[3] RoxPSI: Vult Redux, DatHydra, Glyph,

Not voting: hidajiremi, smarboy69, Gheb_01,

3-8 6pm
[6] Glyph: Red Ryu, Soupamario, JTB, Tandora, hidajiremi, RoxPSI,
[2] hidajiremi: Asdioh, RadicalFiction,
[3] RoxPSI: Vult Redux, DatHydra, Glyph,

Not voting: smarboy69, Gheb_01,

3-9 2pm

[2] Glyph: Soupamario, Tandora,
[1] Tandora: Vult Redux,
[2] hidajiremi: Asdioh, RadicalFiction,
[3] RoxPSI: DatHydra, Glyph, hidajiremi
Not voting: RoxPSI, Red Ryu, smarboy69, JTB, Gheb_01,

3-9 3:30pm
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

[2] Glyph: Soupamario, Tandora,
[3] Tandora: Vult Redux, Gheb_01, RoxPSI,
[1] hidajiremi: RadicalFiction,
[4] RoxPSI: DatHydra, Glyph, hidajiremi, Asdioh,

Not voting: Red Ryu, smarboy69, JTB,

3-9 4:30pm
[1] Glyph: Tandora,
[4] Tandora: Vult Redux, Gheb_01, RoxPSI, Red Ryu,
[1] hidajiremi: RadicalFiction,
[5] RoxPSI: DatHydra, Glyph, hidajiremi, Asdioh, Soupamario,
Not voting: smarboy69, JTB,

3-9 6:30pm
[1] Glyph: Tandora,
[4] Tandora: Vult Redux, Gheb_01, RoxPSI, Red Ryu,
[6] RoxPSI: DatHydra, Glyph, hidajiremi, Asdioh, Soupamario, Radical Fiction,
Not voting: smarboy69, JTB,

3-9 7:30pm
[1] Glyph: Tandora,
[4] Tandora: Vult Redux, Gheb_01, RoxPSI, Red Ryu,
[7] RoxPSI: DatHydra, Glyph, hidajiremi, Asdioh, Soupamario, Radical Fiction, JTB

Not voting: smarboy69

I noticed that DatHydra and Glyph stayed on Rox the WHOLE time. Their votes didn't budge. Whenever most other people were floundering around scrambling for a lynch, they were confident about their vote. Too confident?

Assuming Asdioh was the scum kill, I would look at Jiremi as potentional scum. Asdioh was on Jiremi's case all day yesterday until the last minute switch to Rox. Vult's vote was mistakenly on town lynches throughout those days, so I find it unlikely scum targeted him.

Jiremi, even I find your first post of D2 terribly scummy. What was the point of that post? What did you think it would accomplish or help?

@Smarboy, you had a chance to hammer Glyph on 3/8. Why didn't you do it? Did you think he was town, wanted more time, what?

@ JTB, why did you hammer when you did? There was still 6.5 hours until deadline and people (at least me) were still uncertain of a lynch. Rox had just claimed and we had not had any time to discuss the validity of the claim. Why didn't you wait? Do you feel justified in your hammer?

@ DatHydra, did you use your ability last night? What were the results if you did?

And before anyone has a chance to berate me for role fishing, DH had already claimed his role and Jiremi voiced concern on scum not taking advantage of that.

 

[smarboy69]

We wanted to offer people more time to get in a last post. I want to know what DH got last night. I also want to know who thinks Hida is town.

We really want to look at Glyph today.

 

[DatHydra]

Vote: Smarboy

Wonder why they had reason to be out and about last night.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@Red Ryu

right now, what i just did at the start of the game, well..that's how i think, and i want to consider any solution, and i try to question and hypothesize, i know it doesn't really help, but it's a start.

i'm still looking at d1 btw.

Ok, I'll see how this turns out. You would be looked at more from me if the below didn't happen, though.

Try and look at possible connections and put them together, don't do the noob town ploy again.

I feel bad about this whole thing, really, but we have to keep on trying. To start off, why did DH live through the night with a power role? Even a crappy one? Why did Gheb live through the night when he was pushing a leader position? I'm not confident enough in either of them to vote yet, considering how badly that went the last time, but I'm definitely suspicious.

Can you look any more scummy?

Results

Interesting, Glyph and Hydra will need to be looked at more. More so Glyph because of the comment below this one.

Vote: Smarboy

Wonder why they had reason to be out and about last night.

Smar, explain this now.

 

[smarboy69]

FOS: DH

We weren't out last night. Having a sleepwalker in a game with a one-shot watcher is unbalanced, and there's no way a mod would give a player our restriction and stick us with what's essentially a naive miller ability. DH scum is the only reasonable conclusion. Please consider that FOS equivalent to a vote.

 

[smarboy69]

DH, who did you watch?

 

[smarboy69]

Sorry for the triple post - and DH, why did you watch that person?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Vote: Smarboy

Wonder why they had reason to be out and about last night.

I swear to god, if you weren't watching a dead man and claimed that, you deserve to die for outing PRs.

I REALLY hate you and I hate that you're obv town.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Wait, Smar's post doesn't line up with what I was assuming.

I'm willing to lynch DH on Smarg saying he isn't a PR. His word is worth more to me. Please don't be lying about it Smarg. PLEASE.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Hydra Account

Also, Tand's post is full of fake contributions and doesn't accomplish anything.

 

[smarboy69]

We're NOT lying. There's NO way we can have been out last Night.

 

[Radical Fiction]

One of you is lying then, I guess.

 

[smarboy69]

Tandora, I see you - what do you think of DH's claim?

 

[Tandora]

Possibly the easiest way to see who's lying is to have Smarboy vote out of turn. If there is a not consequence, then we'll know they're about their voting restriction.

Also, Ryker, post on your hydra please.

Sorry you don't like my posts, but I've accepted nothing I do makes you happy. So bugger off.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Possibly the easiest way to see who's lying is to have Smarboy vote out of turn. If there is a not consequence, then we'll know they're about their voting restriction.

Wow, really? How do you know that they can or that there is a consequence of them being able to?

Man, your posts make me think you live off in your own little world.

 

[smarboy69]

I don't think that's a good idea. It's against our Role PM to vote out of turn. In my experience, breaking rules and restrictions like that can get you modkilled - remember Castlevania when Swiss got DH modkilled for asking about the colour of the Role PM? And D&D, when Toastin Walrus got DH modkilled for quoting something from their mason QT? Then you'd have us clear, but modkilled, which means a wasted Day for town, and you won't even be able to lynch DH until tomorrow.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Tandora, why would Smarscum turn around and try and get DH lynched?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Hydra, who did you watch that you claim Smar visited?

Your one time watcher yes, that means you say Smar visit someone, who was it?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also do people think this is Town vs Town, or Town vs Scum.

I personally think this is Town vs Scum.

 

[JTB]

Ok, I can finally post

I feel bad about this whole thing, really, but we have to keep on trying. To start off, why did DH live through the night with a power role? Even a crappy one? Why did Gheb live through the night when he was pushing a leader position? I'm not confident enough in either of them to vote yet, considering how badly that went the last time, but I'm definitely suspicious.

FoS Hida

Um, what? How can you expect anything good to come of responses to those questions? Do you expect us to speculate on how scum is playing so that they can take our answers and use them to their advantage?

@ JTB, why did you hammer when you did? There was still 6.5 hours until deadline and people (at least me) were still uncertain of a lynch. Rox had just claimed and we had not had any time to discuss the validity of the claim. Why didn't you wait? Do you feel justified in your hammer?

I hammered because I felt like there was nothing else that needed to be said. He claimed VT, what other information could we squeeze out of him? He posted everything he had, so call it my lack of experience or whatnot, but I didn't see what else we could possibly get out of him.

If you had actually wanted information from him, why didn't you ask him instead of having him claim again? He was at L-1, you knew it was possible for me or smarboy to deliver the hammer.

Possibly the easiest way to see who's lying is to have Smarboy vote out of turn. If there is a not consequence, then we'll know they're about their voting restriction.

And what, get them modkilled? This is almost as dumb as your previous suggestion to DH on how to prove his PR.

FoS Tandora

Also do people think this is Town vs Town, or Town vs Scum.

I personally think this is Town vs Scum.

Don't see how asking people this is going to help. Not going into specifics, but try thinking about why.

 

[JTB]

oh and

Vote Glyph

since that gets him posting

 

[th3kuzinator]

This is going to be a fun day.

I have a few questions I want to answered first and I will share all I know.

@Smarboy, What did you think of Vult's alignment going into N1?

@Gheb & JTB, you are the two most players I most trust right now. Can you both give me your thoughts on why Vult may have been killed last Night? What were your reads on him going into the Night phase? Same question about Asdioh.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Hydra account FU

 

[Swiss]

Who did what target, Kuz?

 

[JTB]

Vult was null to me. I didn't review his posts much due to his inactivity and other bandwagons happening at the time, but I would like to believe that his inactivity lead someone to believe he was coasting scum. After having flipped doctor, I personally think he's dumb for being inactive with such an important role.

I have a theory on Asdioh, but it's currently WIFOM and I need more information on it. I will eventually come back to it, I don't want to preemptively post it and have it fall apart.

 

[Swiss]

Post it anyway.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Post it anyway.

Agreed, I wanna see it before I put the nail in Smar's coffin.

 

[Swiss]

Nail away Kuzzaiiiii.

Don't be waiting on other people now.

 

[JTB]

I'm not going to. I understand this makes me look anti-town, but if I post it now, I won't get the information I need. The only reason I brought it up was because Kuz asked about it and I didn't want to make it seem like I was ignoring it.

It has nothing to do with smarboy, I'll say that for now.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I'm not going to. I understand this makes me look anti-town, but if I post it now, I won't get the information I need. The only reason I brought it up was because Kuz asked about it and I didn't want to make it seem like I was ignoring it.

It has nothing to do with smarboy, I'll say that for now.

Can you at least post what your read on him was going into the Night phase? I need a second opinion I can trust.

 

[JTB]

Town. Only real problem I had with him was flipflopping during RR bandwagon, but he never really give me the impression he was truly scum.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Unvote; Vote: JTB

See you tomorrow lads.

 

[th3kuzinator]

For those people who are a bit slow.

Watched Asdioh.

Saw JTB and only JTB visit him. All this gambiting thus far was just to get JTB to answer whether he thought Asdioh was town N1. Wanted to make sure he didn't vig kill him. However, why would JTB vig kill Asdioh when he thought he was town going into N1? He wouldn't. Hes scum. He should die.

On the flip side, we now know Smar is also not a role that visited last night.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Unvote Vote: JTB

apples

 

[JTB]

Except there is no way to prove that:

a) You are indeed a town watcher and if you are,
b) You actually watched Asdioh

You are using a claim to which people didn't trust to pin me as scum. How do you intend to prove my above statements?