Disney Pop Stars Mafia | GAME OVER I WONDER WHO WON IT REEKS OF PERFUME

[KevinM]

I promise I'm useful?

Keep me around I'll say why eventually.

Is that the jist of it?

 

[Delvro]

I promise I'm useful?

Keep me around I'll say why eventually.

Is that the jist of it?

Way to straw man?

At the vary least I'm surprised to hear you say something besides who you think should die today.

 

[Tandora]

This is my first game here on this forum. I've never played here before.

Nope. Indy isn't used on any sites I play on.

How do you conclude that I am scum from this?

Vote: Tandora

Not sure if relevant, but what sites do you play on? What's your mafia history?

Not knowing fairly common terms such as indy comes off as a noob player. If you have history of playing the game, then not knowing those terms could be a set up as "ignorant player not knowing what he's doing" which is a good scum cover.

I'm gonna unvote just to be official since I screwed up my vote and forgot to bold it.

And yes, I realize the irony of this whole post. >_<

As far as I'm concerned Mayling is only voting on me to get me drawn into conversation and because she's uberparanoid about me being scum since I'm her sister. Not a 100% sure why others are jumping on the bandwagon. =/

In regards to May's question of what I think so far, I need a more specific question. Because, opinions please is a really open question. I could give lots of opinions. Like so far this game seems a lot more organized than others I've played. The players are a lot more vocal for which I am grateful. I think Gheb's request of everyone being vocal is legit. I was recently in a game (still ongoing) that had a LOT of inactivity early on. I don't believe it's unreasonable to just say that upfront before it become an issue.

 

[Chaco]

Forgot I was in this. Reeading.

 

[Nix2100]

@Chaco - You just posted in here the other day...how do you forget your in this game?

#Delvro - From what I have seen that is usually how KevinM plays..

Back to your #80 though, your 1st point is accusing Chibo of being scum because he isn't acting like scum? I don't quite follow that line of thought. I do somewhat agree with your 2nd point however.

 

[Mayling]

However, I have one other suspect, but I'd rather not say right now (I promise to do so before the day ends though).

you ignored my question of "can you tell us why you won't say yet"

 

[Steel]

Vote Count

Tandora (3) - KevinM, Mayling, Vult Redux
KevinM (2) - SummonerAU, Gheb_01
ChiboSempai (1) - Delvro
Bunglefever (1) - Gheb_01
Mayling (1) - Chaco
Vult Redux (1) - Cello_Marl

Not Voting (8) - Tom, ChiboSempai, Bunglefever, Tandora, Nix2100

With 13 alive, it takes a vote of 7 to lynch!

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Scumfever, you're looking way different from how you're playing normally. Why are you so vocal this time around?

Elaborate, if you wouldn't mind.

I do mind, actually.

Delvro or Tanny today.

I like Delvro's points against Chibo. Wanna keep him around for a while. I'm more concerned with Nix, Chaco and Scumfever being under everybody's radar.

 

[Tandora]

Scumfever, you're looking way different from how you're playing normally. Why are you so vocal this time around?



I do mind, actually.



I like Delvro's points against Chibo. Wanna keep him around for a while. I'm more concerned with Nix, Chaco and Scumfever being under everybody's radar.

This is scuzzy to me. How do you expect people to follow your vote if you don't give us any information? Can you give us any feedback on what your suspicions are?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I'm trying to be vocal because my big knock against me is that i'm quiet or that i quiet down in games as they start to get going. Alot of times in games I type something then stop against it because i'm afraid of someone twisting it around, but I'm trying to be confident in my words this game and just always posting everything I think.

 

[KevinM]

Tandora playing super timid mafia brothers.

 

[Vult Redux]

Not sure if relevant, but what sites do you play on? What's your mafia history?

I have a lot of experience.

I play on the very same sites that this site seems to be familiar with... P:

Not knowing fairly common terms such as indy comes off as a noob player.

I promise you that it's not a common term. At least, not nearly as common as you think it is.

If you have history of playing the game, then not knowing those terms could be a set up as "ignorant player not knowing what he's doing" which is a good scum cover.

Oh! That makes mir sense! Your reaction seems reasonable now.

Unvote. Vote: Chibo

@ anyone with a vote on Tandora: Explain why it's a better vote than a Chibo vote.

 

[Vult Redux]

I promise I'm useful?

Keep me around I'll say why eventually.

Is that the jist of it?

Why are you softclaiming a power role [hint: there are no power roles in this game]?

 

[Vult Redux]

I do mind, actually.

If your vote is on Kevin, then you must think he's scum and want him lynched, do you not? By not explaining your vote and consequently convincing others to do so as well, you are telling us that you actually aren't particularly interested in lynching him.

There can be two reasons for this:
A) You just want to park your vote someone so it looks like you're doing something and skate through the day without giving much input or attracting attention.
B) Kevin is scum with you and you want to gain distance from him without lynching him.

Please explain what your motive is, if not one of the above two.

 

[Delvro]

Why are you softclaiming a power role [hint: there are no power roles in this game]?

He was talking about me and not about himself. However, it doesn't matter since I'm going to go ahead and say who I suspect.

Right now I suspect Chibo but I also suspect Mayling. My reason for suspecting her is purely playstyle analysis so I understand if nobody else wants to vote her. Anyway, as town, she's very paranoid about people agreeing with her too much or buddying with her. The fact that she hasn't done so when I've tried to buddy her on purpose makes me super suspicious.

So I'm fine with either Chibo or Mayling.

 

[Mayling]

Where did you buddy me?

 

[Delvro]

Also, Mayling makes good points. No vote from me though. Getting a lead from a single post is risky.

Also my hopping on your tandora wagon like a kid hops into a cookie jar. After rereading though I saw that you accused Cello of buddying. I'm not sure what to think of that yet.

 

[Mayling]

delvroscum

Also my hopping on your tandora wagon like a kid hops into a cookie jar. After rereading though I saw that you accused Cello of buddying. I'm not sure what to think of that yet.

I think you're scum and you're trying to get rid of me cus I know you're scum, and you know that I know that you're scum, and you're scared, because I know you can't be town, cus if you were town, you'd know I was town.

unvote, vote Delvro

 

[Mayling]

Matthew once told me he loved me when I did work.

This is why Delvro is scum.

VOTE: TANDORA

Rah Rah Rah!

There's also 1 other person I'm suspicious of but I refuse to say right now

So you voted Tandora, someone else that you have several game's experience with, apparently in an attempt to blatantly buddy me. I'm going to assume that this person here you are suspicious of is me. Yet you said you're suspicious of me because I didn't freak out and get paranoid from your buddying.

But. Isn't this the post you attempt to buddy me in? you say you're suspicious of this person here (me) before I have a chance to react. THIS post is the post you "set me up" in an awful buddying case.

That's an awfully early reaction to something you were setting up, that had not yet happened.

Right now I suspect Chibo but I also suspect Mayling. My reason for suspecting her is purely playstyle analysis so I understand if nobody else wants to vote her. Anyway, as town, she's very paranoid about people agreeing with her too much or buddying with her. The fact that she hasn't done so when I've tried to buddy her on purpose makes me super suspicious.

What an uncharacteristically weak attempt to push suspicion on me. Shame on you, Delvro.

Also my hopping on your tandora wagon like a kid hops into a cookie jar. After rereading though I saw that you accused Cello of buddying. I'm not sure what to think of that yet.

not to mention I called you out on your attempt to buddy me below here:

lol FoS. Be a man and place down a vote

....scum

For those who don't know, "....scum" is an inside joke between me and Delvro (and Soaring Raptor Blast who is not in this game). It happened in a mafia game we played together off site. So here, Delvro is also buddying me. but if you remember, I do call him out on it, sorta. Saying it won't really work here and that sort of playstyle is not appreciated.

People need to quit looking for the "obvious" scum tells. The mafia and SK aren't morons.

A parrot of mine and Cello's beliefs.

However, I have one other suspect, but I'd rather not say right now (I promise to do so before the day ends though).

Delvro, why did it take you so long to say you were suspicious of me?

Delvro definitely scum.

 

[Vult Redux]

He was talking about me and not about himself. However, it doesn't matter since I'm going to go ahead and say who I suspect.

That's like the third time I've misinterpreted someone so far. *facedesk*

Please disregard post 93...

 

[Delvro]

But. Isn't this the post you attempt to buddy me in? you say you're suspicious of this person here (me) before I have a chance to react. THIS post is the post you "set me up" in an awful buddying case.

That's an awfully early reaction to something you were setting up, that had not yet happened.

The post you quoted isn't the first like you say it is. The true first buddying post is quoted right in my last post...

not to mention I called you out on your attempt to buddy me below here:

For those who don't know, "....scum" is an inside joke between me and Delvro (and Soaring Raptor Blast who is not in this game). It happened in a mafia game we played together off site. So here, Delvro is also buddying me. but if you remember, I do call him out on it, sorta. Saying it won't really work here and that sort of playstyle is not appreciated.

You're calling this buddying? Really? Regardless, it doesn't matter. You didn't put an ounce of suspicion on me for it. I personally know how paranoid you are about people agreeing with you. I sure don't see that this game.

A parrot of mine and Cello's beliefs.

As if you two were the ones that the belief originated from.... and it's not the first time I've said this.

I see you are OMGUSing me. That's fine.

One last thing though, I didn't like your vote on Gheb. On top of that, you immediately switched your vote to someone else when you realized you were taking some heat for it.

Anyway, one last question...... I've already heard what you feel about me... but how do you feel about Chibo?

 

[Chaco]

Because I was asked to join on AIM and never remember joinig on here. Thus overlooked.

 

[Vult Redux]

Because I was asked to join on AIM and never remember joinig on here. Thus overlooked.

What is this in response to?

Also, where is your vote and why is it placed where it is?

 

[Mayling]

The post you quoted isn't the first like you say it is. The true first buddying post is quoted right in my last post...

Also, Mayling makes good points. No vote from me though. Getting a lead from a single post is risky.

So, Delvro. This is the first buddying post? In response to this link:

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9815491&postcount=26

The post I linked is where I got onto Cello for BUDDYING me. Yet you're saying I didn't get paranoid when people buddy me and this is your case. But you buddying me in a post that I get paranoid of Cello for buddying me. Mmmmhmmmm.

You're calling this buddying? Really? Regardless, it doesn't matter. You didn't put an ounce of suspicion on me for it. I personally know how paranoid you are about people agreeing with you. I sure don't see that this game.

Yes Delvro, this is how you buddy. You reference inside jokes, mimic others, parrot others, and copy other people's memes in order to buddy them (i.e posting funny pics, referencing inside jokes, etc.)

I see you are OMGUSing me. That's fine.

I thought you were suspicious from the start, but couldn't really put my finger on why. But, you just made it blatantly obvious with this case on me.

One last thing though, I didn't like your vote on Gheb. On top of that, you immediately switched your vote to someone else when you realized you were taking some heat for it.

OH. YOU *DIDN'T* LIKE MY VOTE ON GHEB?

Also, Mayling makes good points. No vote from me though. Getting a lead from a single post is risky.

What was this then? hm?

You said this quote in reference to my post in which I mention the balance of the game, get onto Cello for buddying me, and my vote on Gheb. Seeing as you mention the "No vote from me though" you had to have been referencing ALL my points in the post, meaning you DID like my vote on Gheb.

Or are you backpedaling?

And no, you know I didn't place my vote on Tandora because I was taking heat for my vote on Gheb. I placed my vote on Tandora because it's easy to make her squirm and she can be easy to read with pressure on her.

And you voted her as well.. meaning you're putting suspicion on me for voting for someone YOU wagoned.

You're reaching to make me look scummy in all your points.

Anyway, one last question...... I've already heard what you feel about me... but how do you feel about Chibo?

Delvro/Junglebungle/Vult.

Those would be my three scum choices. Which means Chibo is most likely town, or Michael Jackson.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Wut. Where did I come from out of all that? lol. You spend this whole tiem focusing on Delvro and Tandora and just throw my name out there?

Delvro looks like he is backpeddling, and looks like he's too timid to place a vote down, especially after that whole thing with bandwagons. If he wanted a may bandwagon what's stopping him now?

vote: del

 

[Delvro]

Bunglefever, I'm voting for Chibo because I think he's scum. I think Mayling is scum. I can't put my vote on two people. I'm willing to lynch either one. I've already said this before.

Anyway, on to this mess of scummy WIFOM.

So, Delvro. This is the first buddying post? In response to this link:

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9815491&postcount=26

The post I linked is where I got onto Cello for BUDDYING me. Yet you're saying I didn't get paranoid when people buddy me and this is your case. But you buddying me in a post that I get paranoid of Cello for buddying me. Mmmmhmmmm.

Yes, I've already pointed this out. Why are you telling me something I already know? I already said I DON'T KNOW HOW TO interpret this. Maybe Cello is your scum buddy? There could be any number of reasons behind this, but I'm reacting toward the way you're acted towards ME the entire game, because I KNOW my own alignment. I don't know Cello's.

Yes Delvro, this is how you buddy. You reference inside jokes, mimic others, parrot others, and copy other people's memes in order to buddy them (i.e posting funny pics, referencing inside jokes, etc.)

You say this and then you point out things that I do every. Single. Game. Find me a game where I DON'T make jokes, and don't use memes. You've pointed out things that I do all the time. So what?

Even further, you're trying to make me seem scummy by buddying you. Have you forgotten that I was the one to point this whole thing out? I buddied you to get reactions from YOU! I know full well when I was and was not buddying because I was DOING IT DELIBERATELY!

I thought you were suspicious from the start, but couldn't really put my finger on why. But, you just made it blatantly obvious with this case on me.

Ok... I could say the same thing. How does this change anything?

OH. YOU *DIDN'T* LIKE MY VOTE ON GHEB?

What was this then? hm?

You said this quote in reference to my post in which I mention the balance of the game, get onto Cello for buddying me, and my vote on Gheb. Seeing as you mention the "No vote from me though" you had to have been referencing ALL my points in the post, meaning you DID like my vote on Gheb.

Or are you backpedaling?

Um.... I can't buddy you if I'm disagreeing with your posts. I was gauging your reaction. I apologize to Gheb but I feel it to be a better use of my time than goofing off in RVS or whatever.

And no, you know I didn't place my vote on Tandora because I was taking heat for my vote on Gheb. I placed my vote on Tandora because it's easy to make her squirm and she can be easy to read with pressure on her.

Shenanigans alert!! If you really aren't lying, then tell my why you suddenly changed your mind from Tandora? I sure don't see her on your list of my so called "scum partners". You had your vote on her until you voted me... and suddenly you seem to have inconveniently forgotten about your accusations against Tandora.

Delvro/Junglebungle/Vult.

Those would be my three scum choices. Which means Chibo is most likely town, or Michael Jackson.

Very interesting choices. None of these are people I suspect in the least. I trust you have a good explanation for them?

 

[Delvro]

Junglefever put it better than I could. You spent all that time focusing on me and Tandora... and all of the sudden you forget all about Tandora and stick Junglebungle/ Vult in there.

How odd.

 

[Mayling]

Bunglefever, I'm voting for Chibo because I think he's scum. I think Mayling is scum. I can't put my vote on two people. I'm willing to lynch either one. I've already said this before.

Who do you think is scum more?

Yes, I've already pointed this out. Why are you telling me something I already know? I already said I DON'T KNOW HOW TO interpret this. Maybe Cello is your scum buddy? There could be any number of reasons behind this, but I'm reacting toward the way you're acted towards ME the entire game, because I KNOW my own alignment. I don't know Cello's.

If you knew it, why did you agree with it? Why did you try to push suspicion on me for something that I was REFUTING in the post you were referencing to?

Also. Come on. Cello my scum buddy? Tell me you REALLY believe that.

You may not know Cello's, but you have a guess. What do you guess Cello to be?

You say this and then you point out things that I do every. Single. Game. Find me a game where I DON'T make jokes, and don't use memes. You've pointed out things that I do all the time. So what?

Newbie three, I do believe was one.

Um.... I can't buddy you if I'm disagreeing with your posts. I was gauging your reaction. I apologize to Gheb but I feel it to be a better use of my time than goofing off in RVS or whatever.

It looks like backpedaling. It probably is.

Shenanigans alert!! If you really aren't lying, then tell my why you suddenly changed your mind from Tandora? I sure don't see her on your list of my so called "scum partners". You had your vote on her until you voted me... and suddenly you seem to have inconveniently forgotten about your accusations against Tandora.

Very interesting choices. None of these are people I suspect in the least. I trust you have a good explanation for them?

Yes, Delvro. It's called stuff happening, like your REALLY horrible meta-gaming case on me. The Vult thing just clicked.

I could see how you'd tie in with Vult because you know something I find odd about Vult? He questions almost EVERYONE BUT ME. Why is that? Is it because you were PLANNING to all this time and he knew about it?

Seriously. He's always "Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why." to everyone, but really he hasn't pushed much of ANYTHING on me, except for his FIRST question.

When I questioned him about it, he said something about seeing me in another game.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9821690&postcount=47

I asked him. He said he couldn't say. I asked again. He ignored me. Considering the inquisitive nature of Vult of always wanting to know WHY, WHERE, WHO, WHAT, WHEN... do you REALLY think he would ignore my question unless if he had a reason to?

Delvro/Vult connection. Vult has hammered questions into a good majority of players here, except me who he's been skirting around.

 

[Mayling]

I'll explain my suspicions on Jungle during twilight, if that's okay.

 

[Delvro]

If you knew it, why did you agree with it? Why did you try to push suspicion on me for something that I was REFUTING in the post you were referencing to?

I'm saying that I don't know. It sounds like you're pretty sure he's town based on the way you're talking. However, he's barely said anything this game. How am I supposed to get a good opinion on him? Why do you have such a good opinion about him?

Delvro/Junglebungle/Vult.

Those would be my three scum choices. Which means Chibo is most likely town, or Michael Jackson.

So.... in the beginning of day 1, how on earth can you differentiate between mafia members and Michael Jackson? I for sure can't. Seems to me like only scum would be able to do that.
Did anyone else notice this?

 

[Mayling]

I'm saying that I don't know. It sounds like you're pretty sure he's town based on the way you're talking. However, he's barely said anything this game. How am I supposed to get a good opinion on him? Why do you have such a good opinion about him?

Same as above. I have no read on Cello. He's been fairly inactive.

Cello is the fourth person with most posts, after you, me, and Vult. If we don't count our current back and forth, we'd be along with him in numbers. This would make YOU (and me) inactive. Reaching!

Not to mention the slew of people below him apparently are all inactive.

All right, I concede this point.... but I was mafia in that game. You just told me that I don't use my so called scum tells in a game where I was scum.

I'll tell you the reason I didn't joke around that game. It's because I didn't enjoy it. Plain and simple.

Actually, the more I thought about it the more it went something like this:

Newbie Three: Didn't joke. (Scum)
Ballistic Serenade: Didn't joke. (Town)
Tale of Townies: Semi-jokes, but not really. (Town.)
Earth, Wind, Water, Fire, MAFIA!: Jokes severely, flips scum. *

* This game followed immediately after ToT in which I personally acted pretty wacky and the "...scum" joke came from.

I'll let Vult handle this one.

I want to hear your opinions.

So.... in the beginning of day 1, how on earth can you differentiate between mafia members and Michael Jackson? I for sure can't. Seems to me like only scum would be able to do that.
Did anyone else notice this?

I just pointed out why I connected Vult with you.

Also, I guess I could say Jungle/Tandora for M.J. Tandora could easily be your scum buddy cus you <3 to bus.

Otherwise this is sorta reaching.

 

[Vult Redux]

I could see how you'd tie in with Vult because you know something I find odd about Vult? He questions almost EVERYONE BUT ME.

And Summoner. And Tom. And Jungle. And Nix.

Pay attention. You're not special.

Seriously. He's always "Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why." to everyone, but really he hasn't pushed much of ANYTHING on me, except for his FIRST question.

You're not scummy like Cello and Chibo are. You haven't done anything to catch my attention like Gheb and KevinM have.

I asked him. He said he couldn't say. I asked again. He ignored me. Considering the inquisitive nature of Vult of always wanting to know WHY, WHERE, WHO, WHAT, WHEN... do you REALLY think he would ignore my question unless if he had a reason to?

I have a reason to. It's not game relevant. Drop it.

 

[Mayling]

I'm special... my mama told me so...

Touchy!

What do you think of my case against Delvro, Vult?

 

[SummonerAU]

So Chaco, what have you found interesting in this game so far? You seem to have forgotten to say something after remembering you were in this game.

 

[Vult Redux]

What do you think of my case against Delvro, Vult?

I'll read it in-depth now.

-

Not nearly as incriminating as his reaction to the case is.

Love the "Mayling's posts are good [post-Gheb vote]" -> "I didn't like your vote on Gheb" contradiction.

As well as the plea to OMGUS when your case has no OMGUS in the slightest.

The argument about pointing out memes in past games vs. this game is WIFOM and useless.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

OMGUS isn't really an OMGUS if valid points are presented, which May did. I agree that Delvro's reactions are more interesting to the case itself, he seems to be digging himself into a deeper hole. Jungle likes his vote as it stands

 

[Vult Redux]

So Chaco, what have you found interesting in this game so far? You seem to have forgotten to say something after remembering you were in this game.

That's a nice observation and all, but are you keeping up with the recent happenings?

Unvote. Vote: Delvro

 

[SummonerAU]

Yes, I saw Mayling and Delvro arguing and I didn't want the game to continue being centred on them.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

But you have nothing to touch on it at all? Chaco needs to be pulled in, for sure, but there's plenty to work with, don't just ignore it.

Fos: Summoner

 

[Vult Redux]

Yes, I saw Mayling and Delvro arguing and I didn't want the game to continue being centred on them.

That's how I felt also.

But their posts have merit and are worth reading over, even though a good amount of it is obnoxious meta things that we can't verify.