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[ArikadoSD]

Aye diddy boards, was labbing w/ Diddy just now and stumbled upon this, not sure if it's been discussed before (didn't see any thread w/ all combos/set ups in it so I couldn't check really) but I've never seen a diddy do it before:

dtilt > perfect pivot > turn around fsmash at kill percent (starting 85-90% and onwards for Luigi). I think the turn around fsmash requires c stick to be set to smash attacks but idk. I'm not sure if it registers as a true combo but it looks very interesting. Might wanna look into it.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Aye diddy boards, was labbing w/ Diddy just now and stumbled upon this, not sure if it's been discussed before (didn't see any thread w/ all combos/set ups in it so I couldn't check really) but I've never seen a diddy do it before:

dtilt > perfect pivot > turn around fsmash at kill percent (starting 85-90% and onwards for Luigi). I think the turn around fsmash requires c stick to be set to smash attacks but idk. I'm not sure if it registers as a true combo but it looks very interesting. Might wanna look into it.

I'm definitely interessted in this. Luigi seems to most Diddy's as one of our worst matchups. I personally don't struggle as much with Luigi, but he's definitely annoying so yeah, I'll look into this as soon as I can.

 

[ArikadoSD]

I'm definitely interessted in this. Luigi seems to most Diddy's as one of our worst matchups. I personally don't struggle as much with Luigi, but he's definitely annoying so yeah, I'll look into this as soon as I can.

Not against Luigi specifically, Luigi just happened to be the random character that appeared against me lol

 

[Untamed]

Hey guys, I'm thinking of maining Diddy, but I don't want to get hate from others for using a high tier character.

 

[ArikadoSD]

Hey guys, I'm thinking of maining Diddy, but I don't want to get hate from others for using a high tier character.

You'd probably get more hate for using Ness lol

PK FIRE PK FIRE PK FIRE GRAB FAIR X3 BACK THROW

Real talk tho, I think people are well over the diddy hating days, although I guess it still left that much of a bad taste in their mouth. The new victim is Sheik.

 

[W.A.C.]

Diddy Kong still gets some hate. but it's super minimal compared to what he used to get. Most people won't be annoyed if you choose to main Diddy Kong.

 

[Diddy Kong]

People should just shut their mouths about which character you main, unless you're already an established character wagonist. If you wanna play Diddy because you like to play as Diddy, nobody should be stopping you.

 

[divade]

Diddy's Uair got nerfed again XD. :,,(
longer cool down makes rising uairs more difficult.

Edit: Not fact i suppose but it /really/ feels like it.

 

[Dalxp26]

****! Cmon Sakurai. What was the reasoning behind this nerf now?! God this makes me so mad. Im still not going to drop Diddy but its like wtf?! Animal cruelty is illegal.

 

[W.A.C.]

Diddy's Uair got nerfed again XD. :,,(
longer cool down makes rising uairs more difficult.

Edit: Not fact i suppose but it /really/ feels like it.

Can someone confirm if there were any frame data changes to up air besides the change to the hit boxes?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Am pretty sure Diddy has been mostly untouched. He sure still feels great. And I kind of given up on killing with U Air. But a nerf to that move would still be bad... I don't think he has changed much. But am keeping my fingers crossed there are no nerfs...

 

[W.A.C.]

Diddy's nerf to up air is pretty huge. The fact it has less range and more end lag hurts his combo potential badly and leaves him way more open with fast fall up air attacks. I'm just baffled by this balance patch. He did not deserve this.

 

[Diddy Kong]

So it's true after all..? Is U Air still usable in any way? F Air seems to be fine. And Side B is also still good at least. Any other changes? Or just a U Air nerf?

 

[W.A.C.]

Up air isn't bad, but it's nowhere near as good as it used to be. Just lousy range and obnoxious end lag now. :| Up throw was also nerfed. Only does 5% now and I don't know if hit stun was affected.

 

[Snokros]

has any proof been made on diddy's upair hitbox other than the short vid that was posted? pac man's grab was thought to be better last patch because of a video like that where it was much faster... without it being so in the actual game.

 

[ArikadoSD]

This is disgusting.

 

[Shog]

Let's see how many people who said "I love Diddy Kong I main him for real" will still use him...

We Charizard Mains always struggle. Time to feel the pain!

 

[Pazx]

this dude's victim complex is bigger than charizard's grab range

 

[Shog]

this dude's victim complex is bigger than charizard's grab range

Haha I like this

Btw if you don't know, I am pissed off @Diddys Nerf. I honestly want to see buffs only from this point on. I just made this joke beforehand to see how people react

 

[RoyNowBoyNow]

Not sure where to put this, but as someone that primarily mains Diddy and now Roy, I feel like I'm missing something. I can b reverse, reverse monkey flip, jump cancel banana toss, and in general I'm happy with my game. However, I did something by accident today and I'm not sure if it's common knowledge.

I was messing around with ways to fake out with banana, and I was practising reversing into banana throws. Anyway, I dashed away, and immediately hit the c stick in the opposite direction, and the result was diddy sliding back whilst remaining in the original direction. Essentially it was a slide, so it could be used to dodge and trip at the same time. Does this have a name within the community and is it common knowledge? It genuinely looks like a banana induced wave dash.

 

[ArikadoSD]

Not sure where to put this, but as someone that primarily mains Diddy and now Roy, I feel like I'm missing something. I can b reverse, reverse monkey flip, jump cancel banana toss, and in general I'm happy with my game. However, I did something by accident today and I'm not sure if it's common knowledge.

I was messing around with ways to fake out with banana, and I was practising reversing into banana throws. Anyway, I dashed away, and immediately hit the c stick in the opposite direction, and the result was diddy sliding back whilst remaining in the original direction. Essentially it was a slide, so it could be used to dodge and trip at the same time. Does this have a name within the community and is it common knowledge? It genuinely looks like a banana induced wave dash.

could it be this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Sbeua8i-k

 

[RoyNowBoyNow]

could it be this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Sbeua8i-k

It looks like that but it seems... Off. Idk, I never even considered it before because I was focusing on other areas of my game but in terms of banana mix ups it's great, it helps me against mario because I can slide just enough to avoid being cape tripped if I don't connect the banana.

I wish I had recording equipment to show what I mean. I've never seen it done but I believe it has genuine application as a fake out. Input is easy, from standing facing any direction, begin dashing away, then cancel the animation by c sticking in the opposite direction as soon as you begin to move, and you'll face your original direction, and slide backwards as you throw. I have c stick set to smashes, unsure if it works for tilts.

EDIT: could someone either confirm this or test this further for me? It's really easy to pull off, the timing isn't even that strict compared to stuff like neutral b wavebounce.

 

[GwJ]

Would any Diddy players with enough knowledge be kind enough to give some input on The ROB v. Diddy matchup? We covered Diddy first and this was from the very first pre-patch version where Uair was its strongest. We gave the matchup a 65:35 then and I think it is still in Diddy's favor, but by less.

http://smashboards.com/threads/r-o-b-matchup-analysis-1-diddy-kong.387124

 

[Pazx]

I'll see if I can play the matchup with either our resident ROB player or another Diddy.

 

[link and ike lover]

ZeRo: I amined a character that went to a mid tier. ( Diddy Kong)

 

[Pazx]

hope is far from lost

shoutout to mvd (and zero)

 

[LRodC]

I don't main Diddy, but after the patch they have to fix the hitbox trail on up air. If it's going to only have upwards hitboxes now, the trails should match it. They need to fix that and Mewtwo's tail and forward air hitboxes (Shulk's n-air too).

 

[Spatman]

It would have been better for us diddy players if mvd and zero didn't perform well (at least, with diddy) at this CEO.
Now sakurai will believe he did the right thing with this completely unnecessary nerf, and he won't ever buff diddy again. Or rather, probably, he will nerf the chimp again

 

[Diddy Kong]

It would have been better for us diddy players if mvd and zero didn't perform well (at least, with diddy) at this CEO.
Now sakurai will believe he did the right thing with this completely unnecessary nerf, and he won't ever buff diddy again. Or rather, probably, he will nerf the chimp again

This distresses me as well, even though I love how nerfed Diddy still is preforming well. Any chance of any footage of ZeRo and MVD?

 

[W.A.C.]

[LINK]

One of the most epic kills I've seen with Diddy Kong.

 

[Pazx]

This distresses me as well, even though I love how nerfed Diddy still is preforming well. Any chance of any footage of ZeRo and MVD?

Not on youtube yet but you can look at VGBC's stream archive.

 

[Diddy Kong]

One match of MVD vs Nario's ZSS here.

 

[Orocket]

This distresses me as well, even though I love how nerfed Diddy still is preforming well. Any chance of any footage of ZeRo and MVD?

And MVD and Zero's placements were entirely based upon skill not the character they chose. I feel like people won't understand that the skilled players who main Diddy really push the character and don't place well because the character is too strong, but rather because of their understanding of the game.

 

[LRodC]

Good, that's how it should be. Skill trumps character choice almost every time. Problem is that the skill gap is very small in high competitive play which makes this apply less to the upper echelon of tournaments.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

The Kutthroats have set out to draw their character thanking Iwata for all he has done.

We invite you to do the same.

 

[ArikadoSD]

This question's coming a bit late but really, what was the logic behind nerfing Diddy AGAIN?

who complained about him lmao

 

[W.A.C.]

Who knows. A lot of people were thrilled when Diddy Kong got nerfed again until there was a sudden influx of Shiek dittos everywhere. Many players were still super salty over 1.0.4 Diddy Kong and wanted to see 1.0.6 Diddy Kong get nerfed because he was still being used a ton.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I hope all other bandwagonists get hit hard after next patch. Especially . Can we start to complain about these damn characters to? got all the nerfs that should've been equally spread around , and while they're at it, make less cringe-worthy to. needs some nerfs on his Customs to.

 

[Jaylowww]

At this point, all I really care about is Diddy not getting touched the next patch (or delay the patch for a month or two ffs). I don't really want to relearn the character for the third time, having all those set-ups and MU knowledge just go down the drain.

If worse comes to worst, I'll switch to Melee since the game hasn't been patched for the past 13 years lol

 

[Diddy Kong]

Melee was 'patched' with PAL Melee. Which imo is a far more balanced game.

But yeah, all these patches have really ripped apart Diddy's playstyle. 1.06 wasn't bad at all. I think I might actually prefer Diddy that way. He was still an extremely solid Top Tier, and not broken at all. I wish they could've just not touched him since then. Hopefully Sakurai takes notice of this.