"Death to liberals!" - how my dad has turned into a right-wing extremist.

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I guess it starts with the background info.

My dad is *very* conservative. He hates government, almost to the point of wanting anarchy. He believes Ronald Reagan was the best US president ever without question. He thinks Fox News is perfectly fair and balanced, and it's on in our house 24/7. If he's not listening to Fox, he's listening to Rush Limbaugh. If he's not doing that, he's reading Ann Coulter ("an absolute disgrace to women" says my mom). You get the idea. This hasn't been too much in the way of new information or anything to me since I've known this for a while.

However, it's gotten a lot worse ever since Obama has been president, especially these last 3 months or so. I knew my dad hated Obama, but I didn't realize that his hatred towards Obama and liberals in general would actually be affecting our day-to-day lives. But it is.

About a week ago, my sisters invited one of their friends over so they could study for a math quiz and hang out afterward. Long story short, it was getting late, so she asked to stay for dinner, which wasn't a problem with us at all. We had steak for dinner, but there was one minor problem:

"Umm... I'm vegeterian. I don't eat meat."

"That's fine," said my mother, "we have some other things that I know you'd like." My mom isn't an actual vegetarian, but she does cook a lot of non-meat and non-poultry based foods, so it was nice we didn't leave her out.

"Why don't you eat meat?" asked my dad.

"Because I believe it to be ethically wrong to slaughter animals just to eat them."

"God, I hate liberals and their stupid rules about how 'we can't eat meat it's ethically wrong!'"

"Don't you think you should apologize to her for jumping to conclusions dad?" I jumped in.

"Don't buy into this. This is the exact same kind of bull**** that liberals are trying to shove down our throats to tell us what we can and can't do."

"But it's a personal decision!"

"What makes you think that all this "go green" garbage is going to outlaw other types of food in the future?"

"Why can't you just respect her choice?"

"Because it's the path that is going to destroy this country by taking away all our freedoms! Death to liberals!"

After some more arguing, my sisters' friend eventually just got out of the house and walked back home. The next day after school, my sisters came home and they were visibly upset. They said their friend was never going to come over to our house again until my dad apologized to her. When my dad heard about this, he just blew it off.

More recently, I was trying to watch Monday Night Football since it was a doubleheader and I love watching the NFL. Well when my dad came home from work, he saw what I was doing and he started to go off,

"What are you watching?"

"Monday Night Football."

"Why are you watching that pointless piece of trash? Turn the channel to Fox News right now."

"I'll just stop watching TV then and let you watch." I was kinda pissed, but I could just watch MNF from my laptop off the internet.

"No, you're staying here. And the rest of you, come up here, we're all watching the news."

"Why do we *have* to watch?" I asked.

"Are you going to just stand by, do nothing, and watch as liberals desecrate this country into a pile of ****? No, I want all of you to see the truth."

"Fox News is far from the truth."

"That's what those liberal lunatics want you to think. Fox News is perfectly fair and balanced. I don't want you ever watching any liberal brainwash and Fox News will teach you that."

"Fox News has shown to be the most distorted news show without questi--"

"MORE LIBERAL BRAINWASH!"

"Are you just going to throw out ad hominems regarding anything about liberals?"

"They are everywhere, and THEY ARE DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY!"

I was the only real person that was able to stand up to my dad on that day. My mom is really soft and gentle, and she almost never tries to get into arguments. Same with my sisters. I just decided to drop the argument since it was starting to become pretty pointless arguing with my dad. So we were forced to watch Fox News for at least an hour, and I felt absolutely sick to my stomach.

I really can't wait until I move out in about 8 months after getting my transfer degree and transferring to WOU. I feel my dad's zealous, conservative ways are only just going to get worse, and I really don't want to have my mom continue to have her marriage strained because of it and I don't want to see my sisters grow up with someone like this. Even more, I don't want to see my dad channel his rage and anger with his anti-liberal sentiments and do something stupid.

I don't think conservatism is bad as a principle (I'm a moderate BTW), because I do like some of the things it preaches (less government for more efficiency for example), but my dad is someone who takes it too far. He has such a warped vision about politics and life because he is about as far right-wing as you can get. I hate extremeism on both ends, but it has gotten to the point where it has actually affected our day to day life in my family. Every time one of us tells my dad to stop talking about politics, he immediately retorts "Ignorance is strength." in regards to one of the mottos in 1984. As much as I do like some conservatism principles, my dad just makes me less and less likely to be one.

Anyone else experienced something like this before? Also, I really don't care if it's about left-wing extremism as well. I hate political extremism equally since radicals take their beliefs and push them to limits that are beyond the threshold of what most people want to live under.

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

It's less about the actual positions (in this case, extreme right wing) so much as the inability to engage in healthy political discourse. I hold a lot of unpopular political views that probably make me overall a liberal but not strictly. However, I don't get upset at people who disagree with me; I've always considered it one of the biggest pillars of a civilized country to be able to have disagreements in a peaceful manner. I mean, I can easily see the direction some people taking the country as terrible; it's hard for me not to brand most conservatives as promoting blatantly evil discrimination against homosexuals. However, taking that path is just not productive; I definitely feel that on a deep ethical level they are just plain wrong in the way they treat these people and the policies they pursue, but when I approach them, I'm going to see if I can show calmly and rationally why my positions are stronger, seek to understand why they feel the way they do, and look for good compromises that allow us all to get most of what we want or, failing at that, give us what we want on the issues most important to us while conceding on the issues less important (since different groups value different issues differently). I know Obama is all about this style which is why I feel he's doing a fantastic job as president, and I am quite sorry you have to deal with the more embittered and aggressive approach like this.

A good example of what I'm saying is Ron Paul. His positions are really extreme on a lot of issues (he supports the gold standard!), but he always conducts himself in a civil manner. He is "extreme", but I feel as though there's nothing to dislike about him because of the proper way he chooses to pursue his positions. Of course, he's a funny case anyway; he's the only classic conservative left in politics so I suppose he's just as much a relic from another era as an extremist.

The moral really is that it doesn't matter what your positions are so much as how you choose to conduct yourself. Your dad is probably a lost cause since he's so entrenched in that way of thinking, but I do hope you see that the real issue here isn't what he believes so much as how he pursues it. Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, on that note, completely support his way of thinking; they really are the real ones destroying this country if anyone is, and it has nothing to do with them favoring conservative positions.

 

[Ojanya]

I agree with Amazing Ampharos; I don't care what you believe as long as you believe it logically and you know where to draw the line on bull****. (Ex. Fox News.) Your dad is just trying to make you think the way he does to control you, which is called Fascism. You should be unsurprised if he's that far to the right.

 

[Teran]

You should tell your father that for someone with such upstanding conservative values, he has a pretty foul mouth on him.

I'm pretty sure my father swears, but he never swears around me, my brother, or my mother.

He might want to learn some conservative family values and manners. Just a thought.

 

[CRASHiC]

You should inform your father that the 'conservatives' of today are not conservatives. They are mascerading as such.
If they were true conservatives, they would be strongly opposed to combining faith with religion.
I had no problem with the party of Nixxon, and I can have a good conversation and politely disagree with true conservatives.
It is the neo-cons that I have no tolerance for.

 

[Red-Blue]

I think you should do your username justice, and cut the cable.

 

[GreenKirby]

This is what happens when Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck gets time on the air. =/

Also, tell your old man that it's thanks to Reagan that government gotten so big in the first place.

 

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I'll get to your post when I have time AA

Your dad is just trying to make you think the way he does to control you, which is called Fascism. You should be unsurprised if he's that far to the right.

I'm not.

The ironic part is that he hates government so much that it almost seems like he could be an anarchist.

You should tell your father that for someone with such upstanding conservative values, he has a pretty foul mouth on him.

I'm pretty sure my father swears, but he never swears around me, my brother, or my mother.

He might want to learn some conservative family values and manners. Just a thought.

I think a lot of the swearing comes from his job; I've worked for my dad before and a lot of his co-workers have pretty foul mouths. Again, my mom has persistently told my dad to stop swearing around the house, but my dad has a reply of "Don't tell me what I can and can't say, and I especially don't want the government telling me that." As I said in my entry, my mom is a really nice, but a meek person. I feel like I'm the only one that can actually stand up to my dad. Good thing is, he doesn't swear in public, so I don't know exactly what the **** he's doing.

I think you should do your username justice, and cut the cable.

Joking aside, this is pretty much not going to happen. Even if it DID happen, my dad would just fall back on more right-wing propaganda like Rush and friends.

This is what happens when Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck gets time on the air. =/

Also, tell your old man that it's thanks to Reagan that government gotten so big in the first place.

Agreed 100%. It's a shame that conservatism has become so awfully warped by extremists like Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and Coulter.

I was born in 1990, so obviously I never grew up during the Reagan administration to actually feel what it was like. My dad always keeps saying that it was "the best time period of America".

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I hate this crap people keep doing like pulling there kids out of school when the president went to talk to the children. people were saying. 'he will brainwash the kids!" and stupid **** like that personally I watched it from my high school and it wasn't bias in anyway. He was just saying that the children are the future and they need to work hard in school. Does anyone disagree against that?

I think your dad is the perfect example of what is destroying this country (no offence) people who have closed opinions, who don't sit back and look at the other side of the conflict and see the others point of view.

I'm a conservative btw (so far anyways I'm only 17) and what I see in your dad, not that he's a bad guy or anything, is just the type of crap we don't need in this country.

 

[Atlus8]

You're old man sounds like someone you would like to fool with! Sometimes, I find it funny when people take offence for something small!

 

[Punishment Divine]

Your dad sounds like an amazing individual

Albeit a little misguided, he's totally correct

 

[GreenKirby]

Yeah killing people who don't agree with you. That's so TOTALLY AWESOME!

*45% certain that PD's post was not sarcasm*

 

[Punishment Divine]

Yeah killing people who don't agree with you. That's so TOTALLY AWESOME!

*45% certain that PD's post was not sarcasm*

Killing people is always out of the question. But I agree with many of the things he does. He's just being an ******* about it (no offense to OP).

I could never force my beliefs on somebody else, but I do believe strongly in what I do, and for the most part I'm a conservative who's pretty moderate on social issues.

Also, to those talking about 'The face of conservatism has changed' you have to understand that there are various kinds of conservatism. Conservative values can belong to anyone - the modern face of the Republican party is that of a FISCAL Conservative, people who want to spend less money. This is the same with Liberals and the Democratic party.

 

[GreenKirby]

Actually neither major party supports fiscal conservativism.

I don't even think people know what true fiscal conservativism is.

If I had my way, I would tax high and spend low.

 

[TP]

Killing people is always out of the question. But I agree with many of the things he does.

This blog is about to get much more fun to read.

*Grabs popcorn*

 

[Punishment Divine]

Actually neither major party supports fiscal conservativism.

I don't even think people know what true fiscal conservativism is.

If I had my way, I would tax high and spend low.

>_>

My point was that the modern conservative isn't conservative based off of values one would think of a typical 'conservative', but rather a set of political beliefs

 

[superyoshi888]

Sorry, dude. I really hate(err...dislike) reading about horrible parents like your father(no offense or anything). If he was a good parent(not saying he is bad, he just needs to be less of a ***), he would raise you to have an open mind(which it appears you do) rather than try to force his opinions on you.

 

[CRASHiC]

Also, to those talking about 'The face of conservatism has changed' you have to understand that there are various kinds of conservatism. Conservative values can belong to anyone - the modern face of the Republican party is that of a FISCAL Conservative, people who want to spend less money. This is the same with Liberals and the Democratic party.

This is a blatant lie.
The true Republican party that died out with Nixxon was about conserving the fundamentals of the constitution.
The modern day republican party is about promoting a religious agenda, which goes against the very foundations of the party all together.
Economic conservatism and liberalism goes across the party lines, but this current party falsely claims itself to be republican, when they outwardly go against the republican parties original foundation. Religion has no place in politics. True republicans know and live by this. Neo-cons seek to combine religion.
The republican party died when Regan took power. Now some new group has taken over who has no place in our government.

 

[Punishment Divine]

This is a blatant lie.
The true Republican party that died out with Nixxon was about conserving the fundamentals of the constitution.
The modern day republican party is about promoting a religious agenda, which goes against the very foundations of the party all together.
Economic conservatism and liberalism goes across the party lines, but this current party falsely claims itself to be republican, when they outwardly go against the republican parties original foundation. Religion has no place in politics. True republicans know and live by this. Neo-cons seek to combine religion.
The republican party died when Regan took power. Now some new group has taken over who has no place in our government.

You have no idea what you're talking about rofl

 

[Red Arremer]

My father was pretty much the same, just replace liberals with immigrants. Luckily, he didn't force me to watch TV. <_<

In any case, there's not much you can do against people like that. They are deadlocked in their own opinions and try to force everyone to their opinion. Everyone else is wrong. Those people usually are pretty choleric, have tendencies to getting loud and sometimes even violent.

What happened with that friend of your sister was pretty horrible, though. She didn't just answered his question, and he put words and intentions into her mouth that she didn't even say or have. I'm pretty sure that she never wanted to try to convince your father or anyone else in that house of becoming vegetarians.

 

[CRASHiC]

You have no idea what you're talking about rofl

Then explain the vast differences in the party pre Regan and post Regan.
The campaign manager for John McCain in 2000 was on MSNBC talking about it last night, about how the modern day republican party caters to the religious.

 

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I guess it starts with the background info.

My dad is *very* conservative. He hates government, almost to the point of wanting anarchy. He believes Ronald Reagan was the best US president ever without question. He thinks Fox News is perfectly fair and balanced, and it's on in our house 24/7. If he's not listening to Fox, he's listening to Rush Limbaugh. If he's not doing that, he's reading Ann Coulter ("an absolute disgrace to women" says my mom). You get the idea. This hasn't been too much in the way of new information or anything to me since I've known this for a while.

However, it's gotten a lot worse ever since Obama has been president, especially these last 3 months or so. I knew my dad hated Obama, but I didn't realize that his hatred towards Obama and liberals in general would actually be affecting our day-to-day lives. But it is.

About a week ago, my sisters invited one of their friends over so they could study for a math quiz and hang out afterward. Long story short, it was getting late, so she asked to stay for dinner, which wasn't a problem with us at all. We had steak for dinner, but there was one minor problem:

"Umm... I'm vegeterian. I don't eat meat."

"That's fine," said my mother, "we have some other things that I know you'd like." My mom isn't an actual vegetarian, but she does cook a lot of non-meat and non-poultry based foods, so it was nice we didn't leave her out.

"Why don't you eat meat?" asked my dad.

"Because I believe it to be ethically wrong to slaughter animals just to eat them."

"God, I hate liberals and their stupid rules about how 'we can't eat meat it's ethically wrong!'"

"Don't you think you should apologize to her for jumping to conclusions dad?" I jumped in.

"Don't buy into this. This is the exact same kind of bull**** that liberals are trying to shove down our throats to tell us what we can and can't do."

"But it's a personal decision!"

"What makes you think that all this "go green" garbage is going to outlaw other types of food in the future?"

"Why can't you just respect her choice?"

"Because it's the path that is going to destroy this country by taking away all our freedoms! Death to liberals!"

After some more arguing, my sisters' friend eventually just got out of the house and walked back home. The next day after school, my sisters came home and they were visibly upset. They said their friend was never going to come over to our house again until my dad apologized to her. When my dad heard about this, he just blew it off.

More recently, I was trying to watch Monday Night Football since it was a doubleheader and I love watching the NFL. Well when my dad came home from work, he saw what I was doing and he started to go off,

"What are you watching?"

"Monday Night Football."

"Why are you watching that pointless piece of trash? Turn the channel to Fox News right now."

"I'll just stop watching TV then and let you watch." I was kinda pissed, but I could just watch MNF from my laptop off the internet.

"No, you're staying here. And the rest of you, come up here, we're all watching the news."

"Why do we *have* to watch?" I asked.

"Are you going to just stand by, do nothing, and watch as liberals desecrate this country into a pile of ****? No, I want all of you to see the truth."

"Fox News is far from the truth."

"That's what those liberal lunatics want you to think. Fox News is perfectly fair and balanced. I don't want you ever watching any liberal brainwash and Fox News will teach you that."

"Fox News has shown to be the most distorted news show without questi--"

"MORE LIBERAL BRAINWASH!"

"Are you just going to throw out ad hominems regarding anything about liberals?"

"They are everywhere, and THEY ARE DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY!"

I was the only real person that was able to stand up to my dad on that day. My mom is really soft and gentle, and she almost never tries to get into arguments. Same with my sisters. I just decided to drop the argument since it was starting to become pretty pointless arguing with my dad. So we were forced to watch Fox News for at least an hour, and I felt absolutely sick to my stomach.

I really can't wait until I move out in about 8 months after getting my transfer degree and transferring to WOU. I feel my dad's zealous, conservative ways are only just going to get worse, and I really don't want to have my mom continue to have her marriage strained because of it and I don't want to see my sisters grow up with someone like this. Even more, I don't want to see my dad channel his rage and anger with his anti-liberal sentiments and do something stupid.

I don't think conservatism is bad as a principle (I'm a moderate BTW), because I do like some of the things it preaches (less government for more efficiency for example), but my dad is someone who takes it too far. He has such a warped vision about politics and life because he is about as far right-wing as you can get. I hate extremeism on both ends, but it has gotten to the point where it has actually affected our day to day life in my family. Every time one of us tells my dad to stop talking about politics, he immediately retorts "Ignorance is strength." in regards to one of the mottos in 1984. As much as I do like some conservatism principles, my dad just makes me less and less likely to be one.

Anyone else experienced something like this before? Also, I really don't care if it's about left-wing extremism as well. I hate political extremism equally since radicals take their beliefs and push them to limits that are beyond the threshold of what most people want to live under.

You know to far your father is probably one of those very ill informed people, because if he were to watch other channels for his news or read a news paper he would probably start saying, " HOLY CRAP, I was wrong this entire time. "
Most of the time Fox news, is BLATANTLY WRONG, and they start up these things such as death panels and it spreads like wild fire. I can tell you that if it were a Republican President trying to set this, Fox news would be parsing him as if he were god/ Ronald Regan two. I hate these stupid double standards in this country, like if I were to go a conservative convention and blast them out of the water people would yell at me telling me that I do not know how wrong I am. However if, I did this at Liberal Convention would I get blasted, yes, but they would at least make Legitimate points, of why I am wrong.
Often times it is not only the news' fault but for the very Conservative Senators, I mean like the ones that go to church and stay for hours at a time, are filled with lies, not the actual biblical reading, some of the minsters take bribes from huge corporations, like Insurance companies, and tell them to tell their ministry hey, so and so Liberal is doing so and so.

OK so to fix the problem with your dad not realizing that he need to be open minded and forcing you to watch Fox news, I suggest you start watching MSNBC, or CNN, and if he asks what you are doing tell him you are actually watching news and not some made up crap, that only spreads false information. So that way you can actually have a legitimate debate. This way you can bring up facts and tell him how wrong he is, it might help him " see the light" and not be so right wingish.

Also as for the whole Vegetarian lifestyle thing, Liberals are not really into that I really do not know where he got that whole idea.

 

[Punishment Divine]

Then explain the vast differences in the party pre Regan and post Regan.
The campaign manager for John McCain in 2000 was on MSNBC talking about it last night, about how the modern day republican party caters to the religious.

Someone has to appeal to the religious. With various liberals/liberal organizations promoting ZERO religion (See: War on Christmas, Pledge of Allegiance, various actions/statements by the ACLU) Why shouldn't Republicans appeal to the religious? Not to mention, going by 'statistics', a majority of Conservatives support this sort of behavior. Religion is an important part in many peoples' lives, and is an issue that does come up. You can't possibly keep it out of political discussions.

And what does religion have to do with anything anyways? I'm not going to argue over this because it's pretty irrelevant.

The point is that your average conservative isn't conservative because they have those 'country values' i.e. not cursing, etc. but because of their political beliefs.

I'm not some country bumpkin who doesn't swear and has strict values. I'm conservative (For the most part, I like to consider myself moderate on a lot of issues) because of my opinions on abortion, the war on terror, and how the government should spend their money (see: the opposite of what Obama is currently doing)

@ The guy above me - how is Fox news always blatantly wrong? Because they don't agree with your beliefs? Cry me a ****ing river and go watch some Keith Olberman

 

[CRASHiC]

Someone has to appeal to the religious. With various liberals/liberal organizations promoting ZERO religion (See: War on Christmas, Pledge of Allegiance, various actions/statements by the ACLU) Why shouldn't Republicans appeal to the religious? Not to mention, going by 'statistics', a majority of Conservatives support this sort of behavior. Religion is an important part in many peoples' lives, and is an issue that does come up. You can't possibly keep it out of political discussions.

First off, no, liberals do not support anti-religion. Every Senator and represenative has stated that they are of some religious denomination.
Secondly, religion has no place in law. Laws are to protect a persons rights, not promote anyone's agenda. Any law proving to do otherwise is shot down by the courts as unconstitutional.
You can, as it is done in the UK and many other countries.

And what does religion have to do with anything anyways? I'm not going to argue over this because it's pretty irrelevant.

Because it is unconstitutional behavior that these so called 'republicans' promote, when this goes directly against the constitution and the foundations of the republican party. Neo-cons are in no way conservative, and are in no way republican.

@ The guy above me - how is Fox news always blatantly wrong? Because they don't agree with your beliefs? Cry me a ****ing river and go watch some Keith Olberman

Are you aware of how many false lies about this health care plan have been promoted by Fox News?
There are no death panels. These 'death panels' already exist in every state. The 'death panel' clause does not change anything.
Secondly, Fox News claims that this is an unpopular reform, when the numbers show that 75% of doctors want the public option, 51% of businesses want the public option, and 55% percent of people agree with Obama on health care reform.
They state other large untrue things about the health care, from rationing, to killing old people and children.
Another example outside of Health Care, Obama's Czars.
No one ever mentioned Bush's 48 Czars, yet when Obama has Czars, its an issue.
Need I bring up the speech to children?

 

[Punishment Divine]

And this is the reason I don't like liberals

They get super butthurt. Over everything

 

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@ The guy above me - how is Fox news always blatantly wrong? Because they don't agree with your beliefs? Cry me a ****ing river and go watch some Keith Olberman

A quick Google search gets me this:

and this

 

[Red Arremer]

Hahaha, this is pretty good. Especially because that's actually Iraq. :D

 

[GreenKirby]

Let's not forget

 

[Red Arremer]

And this is the reason I don't like liberals

They get super butthurt. Over everything

Just like conservatives get super butthurt at everything?

Like, say... atheism, Charles Darwin, (violent) video games, pacifism, immigrants, freedom of speech, homosexuals, etc.?

 

[CRASHiC]

And this is the reason I don't like liberals

They get super butthurt. Over everything

there is a difference between an average person getting something wrong, and a news network.
A news network is expected to be correct, especially about pressing issues to the people.

 

[Kholdstare]

Sorry, Teran... I did it for the lulz

I guess it starts with the background info.

My dad is *very* competitive. He hates casual play, almost to the point of wanting items hacked out of the game. He believes M2K is the best player ever without question. He thinks Melee is perfectly fair and balanced, and it's on in our house 24/7. If he's not playing Melee, he's listening to Youko's podcasts. If he's not doing that, he's reading User Blogs ("an absolute disgrace to SWF" says my mom). You get the idea. This hasn't been too much in the way of new information or anything to me since I've known this for a while.

However, it's gotten a lot worse ever since MLG has owned SWF, especially these last 3 months or so. I knew my dad loved MLG, but I didn't realize that his love towards MLG and competition in general would actually be affecting our day-to-day lives. But it is.

About a week ago, my sisters invited one of their friends over so they could study for a math quiz and hang out afterward. Long story short, it was getting late, so she asked to stay for playing Smash, which wasn't a problem with us at all. We had a Gamecube and Melee, but there was one minor problem:

"Umm... I've only played Brawl. I don't like Melee."

"That's fine," said my mother, "we have some other games that I know you'd like." My mom doesn't actually play Brawl, but she does play with items on sometimes, so it was nice we didn't leave her out.

"Why don't you play Melee?" asked my dad.

"Because Brawl has more fun options."

"God, I hate scrubs and their stupid rules about how 'Brawl is more fun!'"

"Don't you think you should apologize to her for jumping to conclusions dad?" I jumped in.

"Don't buy into this. This is the exact same kind of bull**** that casual***s are trying to shove down our throats to tell us what we can and can't do."

"But it's a personal decision!"

"What makes you think that all this "play Brawl" garbage is going to outlaw other types of games in the future?"

"Why can't you just respect her choice?"

"Because it's the path that is going to destroy this country by taking away all our freedoms! Death to scrubs!"

After some more arguing, my sisters' friend eventually just got out of the house and walked back home. The next day after school, my sisters came home and they were visibly upset. They said their friend was never going to come over to our house again until my dad apologized to her. When my dad heard about this, he just blew it off.

More recently, I was trying to play We Katamari since it was a fun game and I love rolling around and picking stuff up with my Katamari. Well when my dad came home from work, he saw what I was doing and he started to go off,

"What are you playing?"

"We Katamari."

"Why are you playing that pointless piece of trash? Put in Melee in the Gamecube right now."

"I'll just stop playing then and let you play." I was kinda pissed, but I could just play it in my bedroom.

"No, you're staying here. And the rest of you, come up here, we're all playing Fox doubles on Final Destination."

"Why do we *have* to play?" I asked.

"Are you going to just stand by, do nothing, and watch as scrubs desecrate this country into a pile of ****? No, I want all of you to see the true way to play."

"No items Fox only Final Destination is far from the true way to play."

"That's what those scrub casual***s want you to think. Final Destination is perfectly fair and balanced. I don't want you ever watching any scrub brainwash and Smashboards will teach you that."

"Smashboards has shown to be the most distorted website without questi--"

"MORE SCRUB BRAINWASH!"

"Are you just going to throw out ad hominems regarding anything about scrubs?"

"They are everywhere, and THEY ARE DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY!"

I was the only real person that was able to stand up to my dad on that day. My mom is really soft and gentle, and she almost never tries to get into arguments. Same with my sisters. I just decided to drop the argument since it was starting to become pretty pointless arguing with my dad. So we were forced to play on Final Destination for at least an hour, and I felt absolutely sick to my stomach.

I really can't wait until I move out in about 8 months after getting my transfer degree and transferring to WOU. I feel my dad's zealous, tourney*** ways are only just going to get worse, and I really don't want to have my mom continue to have her gaming skills strained because of it and I don't want to see my sisters grow up with someone like this. Even more, I don't want to see my dad channel his rage and anger with his anti-casual sentiments and do something stupid.

I don't think competitive-ness is bad as a principle (I'm a moderate BTW), because I do like some of the things it preaches (Hanenbow sucks), but my dad is someone who takes it too far. He has such a warped vision about games and fun because he is about as far competitive as you can get. I hate extremeism on both ends, but it has gotten to the point where it has actually affected our day to day life in my family. Every time one of us tells my dad to stop talking about competition, he immediately retorts "Show me ya moves." in regards to one of the mottos in 2008. As much as I do like some competitive principles, my dad just makes me less and less likely to be one.

Anyone else experienced something like this before? Also, I really don't care if it's about competitive extremism as well. I hate competitive extremism equally since radicals take their beliefs and push them to limits that are beyond the threshold of what most people want to live under.

 

[GreenKirby]

Kholdstare wins the topic. lol

Thread over

 

[Red Arremer]

I love the connection between Fox News and Fox in Melee, haha.

 

[TP]

And this is the reason I don't like liberals

They get super butthurt. Over everything

That might be single most stereotypical statement I have ever read on this forum, and I've seen people call all Brawl players 12-year-olds who only play with items on in FFAs.

Kholdstare, please take this invisible but delicious cookie:




You earned it.

 

[Scott!]

Just have to point out that, while Fox News does like to mark Republicans who commit crimes or other acts that go against the party as (D), Arlen Specter is actually a Democrat now, so depending on when that shot was taken, it may not actually be a mistake.

Also, did anyone see the clip of Bill-O advocating a public health option? I swear I typed that right. It's crazy, though he'll probably take it back or something.

 

[Melomaniacal]

And this is the reason I don't like liberals

They get super butthurt. Over everything

This is why I hate conservatives.

Whenever they are confronted by logic and facts, they plug their ears, yell "LALALALA," and fall back on insults.

PS: I obviously don't hate all conservatives, only ones like this guy.

 

[Firus]

Since Falcon doesn't come here anymore, I'll speak for him...

Both sides suck.

Also, all news networks basically suck and are biased.

Anyone who wants to scream "BUT THIS SIDE/NETWORK IS WORSE" can feel free to do so, but don't expect me to reply as I will not budge on this topic. It's why I try to stay away from politics (in vain, of course) as much as possible, they suck and start blame-fests. No matter which side it is.

Of course, extremists are always really bad and should be shot.

/opinion

 

[Teran]

The key to getting the right news is watching all news networks while taking the bias into account.

Then patch all the pieces together from all different sides of the spectrum, and you've got yourself a pretty accurate news story free of political bias.

That's how I do it. =D

I still don't really believe the news very much though.

 

[Chris Lionheart]

I lol'd, Kholdstare. That was the most epic win post I've seen in a long while.


Anyway, despite being a moderate conservative myself, I really cannot stand people like that who give the party a bad name through extremism and intolerance. Overall, I'ld say us conservatives are a nice bunch, but it's always the extremist hypocrites who speak the loudest.... and that applies to all affiliations.

 

[Deleted member]

The extremes at both ends are equally bad. Even though 99% of people are somewhere towards the middle, all the media attention goes to the 1% that are nutjobs. Oh, and Fox News is definately not the only news network with bias.