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i know it does if i can find where i read it i will send you a link
about rob not being a big video game character you can say that about half the roster
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i know it does if i can find where i read it i will send you a link
about rob not being a big video game character you can say that about half the roster
I am correcting him on a mistake.
i know he is not a fighter but what about ho ho he fist appeared on the tv show and i want to know where it said they have to first appearance has to from a video gameI am correcting him on a mistake.
You see, that's just being pedantic. While technically Ho-oh (please put the hyphen in - it took me a while to figure out what you were talking about...) first appeared in the TV show, the TV show was based on a game by Nintendo. The rule that Sakurai stated was that the characters can't be from a TV show which got turned into a game, because that character's roots lie in TV and not gaming.i know he is not a fighter but what about ho ho he fist appeared on the tv show and i want to know where it said they have to first appearance has to from a video game
i know he is not a fighter but what about ho ho /quote]
and rob is not from a game or a tv showYou see, that's just being pedantic. While technically Ho-oh (please put the hyphen in - it took me a while to figure out what you were talking about...) first appeared in the TV show, the TV show was based on a game by Nintendo. The rule that Sakurai stated was that the characters can't be from a TV show which got turned into a game, because that character's roots lie in TV and not gaming.
I'm not sure that anyone really know where it came from. We all know that it came from Sakurai and that he said it in multiple interviews, but nobody can really search it up and find a catalogued version. However, it is just something which exists so you may as well accept that.
What?and rob is not from a game or a tv show
but he did appeared in a game (mario kart ds what came out in 2005) before he appeared in smash bros ( and brawl came out in 2008)
his first appearance to the world was not in a game but an accessory to the nes/FamicomWhat?
Yeah but I was just wondering what your point was. He first appeared as an accessory which pretty much saved video gaming as we know it, yes. He also didn't originate in a TV show, because as you rightfully pointed out he appeared in MK:DS as a playable character. It should also be noted that he has had many references in video games, particularly in the Kirby series and most noticeably in F-Zero. Kirby... yeah, Sakurai's series. That's pretty much why he's in brawl. So, what's your point?his first appearance to the world was not in a game but an accessory to the nes/Famicom
but his first appearance in gaming what i know was in mario kart ds what came out in 2005 before brawl
i don't have a point im just saying there is no reason for him to be cutYeah but I was just wondering what your point was. He first appeared as an accessory which pretty much saved video gaming as we know it, yes. He also didn't originate in a TV show, because as you rightfully pointed out he appeared in MK:DS as a playable character. It should also be noted that he has had many references in video games, particularly in the Kirby series and most noticeably in F-Zero. Kirby... yeah, Sakurai's series. That's pretty much why he's in brawl. So, what's your point?
Oh I took that into account into forming my opinion alright. Indeed, not every fighter will return. You could say that if anyone wants anyone cut, then that is selfish. You could say if anyone wants anyone in, then that is selfish. You do realize I am not in charge of making the game, right? How can I be selfish about it if I am not in charge of making it? Remember, it's an opinion. Opinions are formed by experience, knowledge, personal desires, bias, etc. Because of that, people tend to not agree over opinions.You're failing to take into account his status as an established SSB character, which makes him every bit as legitimate as the characters you like. Every character has their fans, which is something Sakurai referred to in this interview. I think suggesting he should be dropped or demoted to assist trophy without taking this into account is pretty selfish.
Not to dismiss how they had Diddy and Lucario's Brawl icons in the Direct, but I thought that they designed the characters from scratch evertim...
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/17/4438642/super-smash-bros-director-masahiro-sakurai-character-selection
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or, here's some direct quotes:
"We really start from scratch, every time."
"The Smash Bros. developer takes the same care and considerations when redesigning returning characters, like Mario, Donkey Kong and Samus Aran from Metroid. They start from scratch with every character, Sakurai said, first determining how those characters should be graphically represented on new hardware. How characters look, in terms of color, precision and resolution, must be considered before they're designed. That's a challenge for the new Smash Bros., which will have two different levels of visual fidelity and graphical styles across the Wii U and 3Ds versions of the game."
Well, looks like I lost that round. I'd like to think I worked with Brawlbox too much to make a mistake like that...I think you recalled the Brawl hack tool ("BrawlBox") which was used to inject existing models from other games into Brawl.
And I agree, they seemed to start off with Brawl models rather than starting from scratch and Fox and Link proved that.
made more unique he is uniqueI think Squirtle is the highest tier, actually... I personally saw Charizard used a handful of times compared to the other two.
Personal cuts? Oh boy.
Falco, Lucas, Jigglypuff, Snake. All easy, cleanups to the roster.
I do understand the ROB argument... the fact that he was in the physical world and not the digital upset me for a bit too.
But I think if he were made more unique I'd be all for it.
He is rather a general Robot at this moment, and could use some Wall-Efying.
made more unique he is unique
He is rather a general Robot at this moment, and could use some Wall-Efying.
What are you talking about? Those characters have been confirmed.Mario, Link, Pikachu, Kirby, and Mega Man are gone. For a fact!
R.O.B needs something different from my perspective. He was just too generic to warrant a slot; I mean, perhaps if they gave him some new attributes. I just feel as though he is one of the more boring inclusions, without Subspace, he feels unwarranted.I don't think R.O.B. could use Wall-E-fying. After all, his current design as a character very much matches his actual design as a peripheral. I think it would be fitting for him to stay true to that. It's the same for the Super Scope. It looks even more like the actual peripheral now. It's stuff like that that really makes a lot of sense.
Not visually, just in terms of lovability and personality. I mean, I love him... lets see him act curious or adorable. A la @I don't think R.O.B. could use Wall-E-fying. After all, his current design as a character very much matches his actual design as a peripheral. I think it would be fitting for him to stay true to that. It's the same for the Super Scope. It looks even more like the actual peripheral now. It's stuff like that that really makes a lot of sense.
Forgot sarcasm doesn't translate well into text.What are you talking about? Those characters have been confirmed.
R.O.B needs something different from my perspective. He was just too generic to warrant a slot; I mean, perhaps if they gave him some new attributes. I just feel as though he is one of the more boring inclusions, without Subspace, he feels unwarranted.
Original 12
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-90%
It would take very pressing circumstances for any of the original 12 to be cut. Captain Falcon is probably the most iconic character from Smash, and Ness has a huge cult following, not to mention EB is now on the Virtual Console. Jigglypuff is much less relevant, but she's more or less a tradition at a point.
Popular within series
-99%
-95%
-90%
-80%
-75%
-50% (Mutually exclusive with Falco)
Wario has been confirmed to have reps, he's pretty much in. If Dedede is in, Meta Knight is in. Period. Ganondorf is as relevant as ever. He's the main antagonist of Wind Waker (HD), and Skyward Sword is essentially an origin story for him. Being Sakurai's main also helps. Mewtwo is without a doubt one of the most requested veterans, and he was planned to be in Brawl before he was cut for unknown reasons, presumably time constraints. Ike is probably the most notable Lord to western audiences, since the Tellius series was the first Fire Emblem series to be released in full in the US. Wolf is tricky. Star Fox hasn't gotten anything but a 3DS port. Quite franky, it's lucky to even have two reps. I'm pretty certain that either Falco or Wolf is going. I'd like to see Wolf over Falco, but it's difficult to tell who would actually stay.
Popular in competitive
-85%
-50% (Mutually exclusive with Wolf)
These two are strange. Neither of them are really spectacularly popular in their series, (Ice Climbers haven't seen any action outside of Smash at all), but they're quite popular in the Smash competitive scene. I think the infamous chain grab has given the Ice Climbers enough popularity to stick around. Falco is strange. He's fairly popular in competitive, but 3 reps from a series that hasn't had an original game since 2006 is just absurd. If I had my way they'd both be cut, but realistically speaking I think we'll get one over the other. Wolf has a mostly original moveset, but Falco is more popular.
Slightly more obscure
-85%
-75%
-60%
Mr. Game and Watch is a little more obscure, but he represents a major part of Nintendo history, plus he's a pretty novel concept. I wouldn't worry about him. Ness and Lucas may have similarities, but Mother 3 was huge in Japan, and Earthbound and Mother 3 were pretty distinct games. R.O.B. is strange, he's just sort of there. He's technically original, but he's just not that popular. I don't imagine him being all that high on the totem pole.
Doomed
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Snake only got in because the creator of Metal Gear literally begged Sakurai. Transformation characters are out and I highly doubt Squirtle and Ivysaur will be standalone characters. Three Links is just stupid, Roy isn't really relevant anymore, and I seriously wonder what Sakurai was on when he added Pichu.
Alternate costume
Dr. Mario was without a doubt the most shameless clone, to the point where I can see him being an alternate costume for Mario.
like over 100%? Ike's chance went up to 100% cuz he's already confirmed recentlyWolf and Falco have a better chance to return than Ike....
Most likely to get revealed first you meanToon Link, Ike, Lucario, Snake, Lucas
In that order of being cut, from most likely to least likely.
When did I say that? xD I changed my opinion later on and I'm actually really happy Ike is back. Please Sakurai, you buffed him aesthetically now buff him technically
Hu!!!!!! IKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!like over 100%? Ike's chance went up to 100% cuz he's already confirmed recently![]()
To be fair, I only mentioned him as a possibility. I never really though he was actually going to get axed. I actually supported his return pretty strongly.