Console Gaming To become Extinct?!

[BlublacMH]

http://www.casualgaming.biz/news/27907/Consoles-are-facing-competition-and-extinction

According to this article, console gaming will be extinct within the next two generations due to the rise of casual gaming. It claims that the internet will replace console gaming, just because you can do more than just play games on it. Personally, I think its a load of bull. You can watch movies on the internet, are theaters extinct? You listen to music on the internet, are albums extinct? (Declining yes, but far from extinct) You watch tv shows on the internet, is television extinct? You may be able to do it elsewhere, but nothing beats the format it was meant for. What do you think?

 

[BloodyPuppy]

Uh, no. Casual games are usually garbage and will never appeal enough to actual gamers to provide any real competition.

****, I just read the article, and they're full of crap. I don't buy anything they say there.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Is this from the same group of people who said that things like the CD-i, Gizmondo, and NGage would kill the console competition because of all the extra things you could do on them? I mean really, I get pissed at people complaining over things like how they couldn't watch dvds on their Gamecube. Guess what, a Gamecube is meant to PLAY GAMES ON, and that should be the primary focus of a system. If you want to watch dvds, go drop $25 on a dvd player.

 

[BloodyPuppy]

Is this from the same group of people who said that things like the CD-i, Gizmondo, and NGage would kill the console competition because of all the extra things you could do on them? I mean really, I get pissed at people complaining over things like how they couldn't watch dvds on their Gamecube. Guess what, a Gamecube is meant to PLAY GAMES ON, and that should be the primary focus of a system. If you want to watch dvds, go drop $25 on a dvd player.

Seriously, if you don't buy a game system because it can't play DVD's you're stupid. Unless of course it's because you're debating between two consoles and the deciding factor is DVD playing.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Agreed, I'm more concerned about backwards compatibility *coughPS3cough* than I am dvd playback. Hell, graphics aren't even a big issue with me, since they don't necessarily make a game good (XBox fanboys, I'm looking at you ).

 

[Overload]

Oh man that was one of the funnies things I've ever read.

 

[ZeroFox]

I don't believe that for one second. Console gaming as we currently know it will only become "extinct" if some other vastly superior technology takes its place. We're not going to just get rid of it for no good reason

 

[Cashed]

Agreed, I'm more concerned about backwards compatibility *coughPS3cough* than I am dvd playback. Hell, graphics aren't even a big issue with me, since they don't necessarily make a game good (XBox fanboys, I'm looking at you ).

Even shorter version: I love Nintendo, they're perfect!

 

[ndayday]

I really don't see it happening, I mean seriously...that's like saying the little flusher on the toilet will be extinct thanks to the automatic toilet. (bad example xD)

 

[ZeroFox]

I really don't see it happening, I mean seriously...that's like saying the little flusher on the toilet will be extinct thanks to the automatic toilet. (bad example xD)

Lol, that is sort of an odd example.

I guess it works though.

What I'm saying though is that I think as long as there is an interest in video games, console games will continue to thrive. New technological advances will merely make the gaming experience better.

But console gaming, as we know it, would, in my mind, only be replaced by something like...I don't know, virtual reality...

 

[LivewiresXe]

Nah, Nintendo's far from perfect. I mean, they made the Virtual Boy. The PS1 and PS2 are favourite systems of mine for sure, I just don't like when a system having add-ons or what it's graphics capability is happens to take almost precedent over making good games.

 

[ZeroFox]

Nah, Nintendo's far from perfect. I mean, they made the Virtual Boy. The PS1 and PS2 are favourite systems of mine for sure, I just don't like when a system having add-ons or what it's graphics capability is happens to take almost precedent over making good games.

True that. I love Nintendo as much as the next fanboy, but I won't say Nintendo is perfect. It's got my favorite systems in each generation, but that doesn't make it perfect.

And I belive that a gaming console should be for gaming. DVD add ons and whatnot seem almost pointless to me. And graphics do matter to an extent, just not as much as the majority of casual gamers out there think.

 

[Sporkman]

http://www.casualgaming.biz/news/27907/Consoles-are-facing-competition-and-extinction

According to this article, console gaming will be extinct within the next two generations due to the rise of casual gaming. It claims that the internet will replace console gaming, just because you can do more than just play games on it. Personally, I think its a load of bull. You can watch movies on the internet, are theaters extinct? You listen to music on the internet, are albums extinct? (Declining yes, but far from extinct) You watch tv shows on the internet, is television extinct? You may be able to do it elsewhere, but nothing beats the format it was meant for. What do you think?

You'll notice that the latter two examples you mentioned are heavily affected by the internet, the former is not. If you do not know why this is, go have a long hard think. Cinemas offer something you can't anywhere else.

As for console gaming, it won't 'die'. What happens with it is entirely in the hands of the producers. As living room entertainment Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft can keep consoles at cutting edge, what it depends on is whether or not they expand their machines towards a more multimedia focus, like a PC, as they are already showing.

 

[SkylerOcon]

Agreed, I'm more concerned about backwards compatibility *coughPS3cough* than I am dvd playback. Hell, graphics aren't even a big issue with me, since they don't necessarily make a game good (XBox fanboys, I'm looking at you ).

Why are you concerned about backwards compatibility? I've never understood the whole thing about consoles not having it, because if you'd have any use for it, that means you would have already had the console it would be backwards compatible with. That's not a problem.

Oh, and Gears of War says hi.

 

[Darkslash]

Wow facing competition on the internet? Don't make me laugh. Also coming from a site which address is Casual Gaming Biz I REALLY doubt the credibility of this.

 

[Firus]

Nah, Nintendo's far from perfect. I mean, they made the Virtual Boy.

I don't know if you've played the Virtual Boy or not, but if you haven't, don't automatically judge it because everyone says it sucks. My friend, who collects games (his collection is massive) has a Virtual Boy himself and actually likes it.
If you've played it and hate it, that's one thing. Just don't judge it until you've played it.

By the way, this entire article is bull****. It's posted on a site titled "casualgaming.biz", so clearly it's about casual gaming, so clearly they are for casual gaming, so clearly they want to convince people it will defeat regular gaming.

That aside, it's still bull****. As much as I hate the Wii, it does have innovation, just annoying innovation. And how can they say the 360 and PS3 aren't sporting rich graphics? Compare those graphics to previous generations and tell me they suck...
Not that either matters, since the SNES > all. Or at least consoles this generation.

Crappy online games are depth-less, and only fun when you're bored. Console games will never die, at least not to that.

Why are you concerned about backwards compatibility? I've never understood the whole thing about consoles not having it, because if you'd have any use for it, that means you would have already had the console it would be backwards compatible with. That's not a problem.

Oh, and Gears of War says hi.

Skyler, that's not true. Just because you have use for backwards compatibility doesn't mean you already had the previous console. I never had a PS1, but I want to get some PS1 games for my PS2 at one point. I'm likely never going to use my Xbox Original and possibly sell it, but I'd like to get Halo 1 and 2 for my 360.
Backwards compatibility IS important, and convenient. As much as I would NEVER, EVER get rid of my Gamecube, it's convenient to not have it plugged in with my Wii to play Gamecube games. Plus, for people who are not collectors and who want to free up some space, selling consoles would be a nice option, especially in the case of the PS2 if you didn't get a slim and the Xbox original

 

[LivewiresXe]

Well, I actually played the Virtual Boy when it came out. It REALLY bugged my eyes and stuff, and I've played it since and couldn't get into it, but then again, I'm epileptic so, maybe just haven't been playing it for long because of that.

And as for backwards compatibility, yes I may have a PS1 and PS2, but the Wii/Gamecube deal is different. I have a bunch of games for the Gamecube that my sister owns that I enjoy playing, and she's considered selling it. Had the Wii not been backwards compatible, I'd have to seriously contemplate getting a Gamecube of my own for them. Plus, had the Wii not been backwards compatible with the GC controllers, we wouldn't be able to use them for Brawl, now would we?

 

[Darkslash]

I find backwards capability convenient. Because you can put the any GenIII poke game in the DS no need for 2 consoles to migrate your pokemon.

 

[Firus]

Well, I actually played the Virtual Boy when it came out. It REALLY bugged my eyes and stuff, and I've played it since and couldn't get into it, but then again, I'm epileptic so, maybe just haven't been playing it for long because of that.

Yeah, as I said, if you've played it and disliked it I'm definitely not going to tell you you're wrong, especially since I've never played one myself. I just didn't want it to be bashed if you hadn't played it.

And as for backwards compatibility, yes I may have a PS1 and PS2, but the Wii/Gamecube deal is different. I have a bunch of games for the Gamecube that my sister owns that I enjoy playing, and she's considered selling it. Had the Wii not been backwards compatible, I'd have to seriously contemplate getting a Gamecube of my own for them. Plus, had the Wii not been backwards compatible with the GC controllers, we wouldn't be able to use them for Brawl, now would we?

Good point with the second thing; without backwards compatibility for Gamecube, we likely wouldn't have had the option to use those controllers. So in this case especially, you have to note that backwards compatibility was a good choice.

 

[Cashed]

Remember this is about console gaming going the way of the dinosaurs, not backwards compatibility.

 

[BloodyPuppy]

Until the casual gaming biz makes a fighting game as good as Guilty Gear, I don't buy this article. Of course then that wouldn't really be a casual game now would it...

 

[LivewiresXe]

Yeah, I don't really buy that article. Off topic, but how were the Guilty Gear games anyway? I've been meaning to try them and Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike, but haven't gotten around to it.

 

[Delta_BP26]

To this article, I reply with an LOL. Casual gaming is too crappy to ever offer any serious competition to the hardcore gamers. Also, to quote Darkslash on the first page, "Also coming from a site which address is Casual Gaming Biz I REALLY doubt the credibility of this."

 

[BloodyPuppy]

Yeah, I don't really buy that article. Off topic, but how were the Guilty Gear games anyway? I've been meaning to try them and Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike, but haven't gotten around to it.

Fantastic, but I warn you that it's super technical. You can get by with button mashing to an extent against bad to mediocre players, but don't try it against anyone good. I highly recommend even if you aren't that good at 2D fighters, just based on how awesome the sprites and gameplay are, as well as the soundtrack. Get Guilty Gear XX Accent Core for the PS2 ideally, but you can get it for the Wii and pick up a classic controller if you must. Also, I wouldn't get the first game, every character is broken beyond all reason, and nearly every character has an infinite.

 

[notftomearth7]

Even if you DO believe this, you have to consider, is the internet really a great medium for video gaming. Other than one game, I would be inclined to say no. Besides, I just don't even get the prospect of, "The Internet is Better Because you can do more crap on it." This just shows how spoiled the new market of gamers has become. Heck, I even remember back in the day of the N64 where you were lucky if games had something that differed from the one player mode.

Honestly, this is dumb

 

[BlublacMH]

You'll notice that the latter two examples you mentioned are heavily affected by the internet, the former is not. If you do not know why this is, go have a long hard think. Cinemas offer something you can't anywhere else.

As for console gaming, it won't 'die'. What happens with it is entirely in the hands of the producers. As living room entertainment Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft can keep consoles at cutting edge, what it depends on is whether or not they expand their machines towards a more multimedia focus, like a PC, as they are already showing.

Your right, the music industry might not have been the best example, but I dont think the internet is heavily affecting television. With copyright and infringement laws keeping a lot of shows and specials from popping up on popular video sites like youtube, and fewer and fewer free downloads being available, TV is at best just in competion with the internet.

On topic, whoever said the site just wants casual gaming to swallow up the entire industry is right. There's no way people will stop paying $400 for good games on a console to pay $1000+ for them on PC.

 

[Jimnymebob]

If they were to become extinct, won't all video game systems and games around the world have to be destroyed?
Come on guys, get your crowbars out. Smashing video game consoles like this will be the last time you get the feel for Gordon Freeman.

 

[Sporkman]

Your right, the music industry might not have been the best example, but I dont think the internet is heavily affecting television. With copyright and infringement laws keeping a lot of shows and specials from popping up on popular video sites like youtube, and fewer and fewer free downloads being available, TV is at best just in competion with the internet.

On topic, whoever said the site just wants casual gaming to swallow up the entire industry is right. There's no way people will stop paying $400 for good games on a console to pay $1000+ for them on PC.

I haven't a watched a proper TV in ages. Some channel providers are so nice as to put all their shows up on the interent free to watch in very high quality for me to stream, such as the BBC, C4, I know there are some american companies that do it aswell but being too lazy to switch my proxy to one american based I don't use them and can't tell you who they are.

Those are the legals. .cc sites allow you to search a range of hosting sites from just one place. I've got one for TV, and one for, er... other stuff. Hundreds and hundreds of shows are available on the internet. If you don't want to stream you can download in high quality through the use of certain software or from particular sites. Opposed to the legal option, perhaps only major downside to these choices aside from quality, would be that they aren't available untill sometime after the show is aired publicly.

I'm not saying TV is going to 'go away', far from it. But viewing figures certaintly take a hit because of the internet.

As for PC vs Console price comparison; it was looked at in this post underneath the third quote.

 

[Red Exodus]

I'll believe it when I see it. Besides if it does happen it doesn't mean games will disappear, all the current games would still be around, the biggest problem would probably be distribution.