El HP
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With the exception of Ridley all the other characters are guaranteed to appear in brawl.
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Confirmed (sorta) Characters
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dynamic_entry
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^^^ your sig (far right) gives me nightmares.
MarsBitrona
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When they say an actor is attached to something, it means it's assumed because they were in previous titles, but has no basis on anything official or factual. It's like saying Tobey Maguire is attached to Spider-Man 4. In reality, it's not actually based on anything.
I think at one point they actually listed Emma Watson as attached to the next Power Rangers show as the Pink Ranger.
Super Smash Master
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Lol halo is da best gam3 ev4r betta than zelda. lolollololol
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Doggalina
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Yes, the old days of SNES and NES are great, but it's not like gaming died after the SNES. PS1 and N64 spawned many classics. Just because it's "old school" doesn't mean that it's good, and just because it's new doesn't mean it's bad.
OoT gets the praise it does because it was the first of its kind. It revolutionized the Zelda series (an the adventure genre) as a whole. Majora's Mask just might be better (the actual gameplay itself is, IMO. It's just too short). However, MM was the second of it's kind; therefore, it doesn't have OoT's newness. FFVII is the same way.
Oh, and the actual topic:
What's strange about the IMDB thing is that 'Dorf is the only character listed that hasn't been announced yet. I checked the site thinking that it would have all of the voice actors from Melee, but, nope, that wasn't the case. It's interesting news, but it amounts to information equivalent to the "1UP rumor."
@ The Original Poster:
Samus is confirmed. They released official artwork of her.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/129/reviews/928518_20060510_screen033.jpg
Jazzy Jinx
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Dear God, grim lizard, get over yourself.
It doesn't matter if EVERY freaking person on the planet likes OoT. It's still an OPINION. It will always BE an opinion. No matter what. Never write an opinion off as fact because opinions are subject to change unlike facts which are adamant.
I don't care for Link games. I don't care if you think less of me for disliking Link games. I have every right not to care about Link games and I have every right to disagree that OoT is not the greatest game of all time because it is an opinion which gives me the ability to disagree with it.
And I recall you saying somewhere that Mario was unoriginal. Link is just as original as Mario. They both always follow a similiar story line (save the princess; random other side story crap). And Mario has fought other villians: Tatanga, Shadow Queen, Count Bleck, Bowser Jr, Cackletta, Princess Shroob, Wario, etc. not just Bowser.
But what made me laugh is that you then later say that Mario 64 was in the top five with that game which means you destroyed your own point. If I recall correctly, Super Mario 64 is usually ABOVE OoT in the polls for greatest game of all time but as a Mario fan I'm not going to go and tell everybody "you are teh stupidez for not thinkin it is teh greatness!!1!". Do you know why? Because people have their own opinions and Super Mario 64, though highly regarded on several polls, is NOT the greatest game of all time.
All time means all time. And Super Mario 64 is likely to lose it's position as the greatest game ever because opinions are ALWAYS subject to change. There is no way you can disprove me because the only thing you have going for you are your own opinions and the opinions of random poll voters and nothing more.
On Topic: I'm not going to hold my breath until I see more solid proof on these characters' inclusions. Yoshi and Samus are a given but Ridley and Ganondorf still need more validation despite how much evidence supports their inclusion. Fact of the matter is, you never know what's going to happen. They could be downgraded to lowly bosses for all we know. Not that it is likely but it is still a possibility.
It doesn't matter if EVERY freaking person on the planet likes OoT. It's still an OPINION. It will always BE an opinion. No matter what. Never write an opinion off as fact because opinions are subject to change unlike facts which are adamant.
I don't care for Link games. I don't care if you think less of me for disliking Link games. I have every right not to care about Link games and I have every right to disagree that OoT is not the greatest game of all time because it is an opinion which gives me the ability to disagree with it.
And I recall you saying somewhere that Mario was unoriginal. Link is just as original as Mario. They both always follow a similiar story line (save the princess; random other side story crap). And Mario has fought other villians: Tatanga, Shadow Queen, Count Bleck, Bowser Jr, Cackletta, Princess Shroob, Wario, etc. not just Bowser.
But what made me laugh is that you then later say that Mario 64 was in the top five with that game which means you destroyed your own point. If I recall correctly, Super Mario 64 is usually ABOVE OoT in the polls for greatest game of all time but as a Mario fan I'm not going to go and tell everybody "you are teh stupidez for not thinkin it is teh greatness!!1!". Do you know why? Because people have their own opinions and Super Mario 64, though highly regarded on several polls, is NOT the greatest game of all time.
All time means all time. And Super Mario 64 is likely to lose it's position as the greatest game ever because opinions are ALWAYS subject to change. There is no way you can disprove me because the only thing you have going for you are your own opinions and the opinions of random poll voters and nothing more.
On Topic: I'm not going to hold my breath until I see more solid proof on these characters' inclusions. Yoshi and Samus are a given but Ridley and Ganondorf still need more validation despite how much evidence supports their inclusion. Fact of the matter is, you never know what's going to happen. They could be downgraded to lowly bosses for all we know. Not that it is likely but it is still a possibility.
LukeFonFabre
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Wow, this got terribly off topic quite quickly.
Samus is actually completely confirmed, it said on the old website you'd be able to play as original Samus too, not to mention they wouldn't bother showing her in the trailer if she wasn't going to.
Yoshi is all but officially confirmed now. I'm pretty sure he'll be finally revealed at E3.
Ridley is less certain. While I'm sure that Sakurai would be aware that revealing his theme would result into a lot of speculation, it's too soon to count Ridley in just yet.
And while I've a lot of faith that Ganondorf is returning, IMBD isn't a reliable source by any means. I'm pretty sure they had Marth's voice actor at one point, so my guess is that they are merely speculating at possible returners.
Samus is actually completely confirmed, it said on the old website you'd be able to play as original Samus too, not to mention they wouldn't bother showing her in the trailer if she wasn't going to.
Yoshi is all but officially confirmed now. I'm pretty sure he'll be finally revealed at E3.
Ridley is less certain. While I'm sure that Sakurai would be aware that revealing his theme would result into a lot of speculation, it's too soon to count Ridley in just yet.
And while I've a lot of faith that Ganondorf is returning, IMBD isn't a reliable source by any means. I'm pretty sure they had Marth's voice actor at one point, so my guess is that they are merely speculating at possible returners.
YOSHIDO
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yoshi is orignal nintendo. Hes in it.
the grim lizard
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Sorry to get everyone off topic, guys. (Actually it was one of the initial posters who made a comment.)
But anyway, this is actually a pretty good find, leprechaunlink727. It isn't as if IMDB said, "oh, they were voices in Melee, so they're going to be voices in Brawl" because there are new people on there (such as Zamus, Snake, and Wario). We must take this all with a grain of salt because it's the MOVIE database, but it is still interesting, nonetheless.
But, Ganondorf is the only one on here who isn't already confirmed.
Just to get us fully back on topics, I took the time to look at the Melee voices as well as the Smash64 voices. Here's what I found:
>Yoshi's voice is the same for SSB and SSBM, but he has nothing listed after 2005.
>The voice of Mario has also always been the voice of Luigi. (But Luigi isn't listed under the Brawl voices, only Mario/Wario).
>The Narrator has been different both times, and no narrator is listed for Brawl.
>The voice of Samus/Zamus is different than the "voice" (??) of Samus for the past two games (which was the same as Pikachu)
>Falcon has been the voice of Budokai's Vegeta, apparently (I never knew that, but...sweet!), but he has nothing listed as far as smash.
>The voice of DK for the past two games has nothing listed after 2002.
>The voice of Ness has always been the same as the voice of Kirby, but for Brawl, he's only listed as Kirby, no Ness.
>The voice of Fox for Brawl is different from the past two games...it's the same voice for Assault.
That's really about it...nothing except for that Ganondorf thing. Weird.
And don't give me crap about me contradicting myself. I simply said that is regarded as one of the best games of all time. And that's a fact. It is a fact that it is one of the best games of all time. Now, where that falls is opinion, I admit. But I NEVER said anything about "everyone in the world thinks it's number one." Don't put words in my mouth.
But anyway, this is actually a pretty good find, leprechaunlink727. It isn't as if IMDB said, "oh, they were voices in Melee, so they're going to be voices in Brawl" because there are new people on there (such as Zamus, Snake, and Wario). We must take this all with a grain of salt because it's the MOVIE database, but it is still interesting, nonetheless.
But, Ganondorf is the only one on here who isn't already confirmed.
Just to get us fully back on topics, I took the time to look at the Melee voices as well as the Smash64 voices. Here's what I found:
>Yoshi's voice is the same for SSB and SSBM, but he has nothing listed after 2005.
>The voice of Mario has also always been the voice of Luigi. (But Luigi isn't listed under the Brawl voices, only Mario/Wario).
>The Narrator has been different both times, and no narrator is listed for Brawl.
>The voice of Samus/Zamus is different than the "voice" (??) of Samus for the past two games (which was the same as Pikachu)
>Falcon has been the voice of Budokai's Vegeta, apparently (I never knew that, but...sweet!), but he has nothing listed as far as smash.
>The voice of DK for the past two games has nothing listed after 2002.
>The voice of Ness has always been the same as the voice of Kirby, but for Brawl, he's only listed as Kirby, no Ness.
>The voice of Fox for Brawl is different from the past two games...it's the same voice for Assault.
That's really about it...nothing except for that Ganondorf thing. Weird.
Maybe you should have read what I wrote. I said nothing about myself in my posts; so there is nothing to get over...whereas you talked a lot about your own opinions and blah blah blah. So, how about you get over yourself?
And don't give me crap about me contradicting myself. I simply said that is regarded as one of the best games of all time. And that's a fact. It is a fact that it is one of the best games of all time. Now, where that falls is opinion, I admit. But I NEVER said anything about "everyone in the world thinks it's number one." Don't put words in my mouth.
leprechaunlink727
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This has been the most succesful thread I've ever started, and not because people are staying on topic. I'll clear some things up.
1. This is all pure speculation, I know this. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. These are just the most convincing arguments I've heard for character inclusion.
2. Samus has been confirmed, I know this too. I just felt she deserved a spot here because many people are afraid she will somehow be replaced by Zamus(?).
3. Sorry, but all people who participated in the Zelda argument are Douschbags. No matter which side they were on. I do like Zelda, and I think OOt is the best (I've beaten all of them) but this is my OPINION.
4.IMDB is not reliable, but like many have said, he is the only character up there. And I definently don't know for certain, but the actual actors may have some say in what goes on their profile. Probably not.
Hope this helps, just try to stay on topic. And for the love of god, somebody just start a "Which Zelda is Best?" thread. This argument comes up on like 60 percent of the threads, and I'm sick of it.
1. This is all pure speculation, I know this. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. These are just the most convincing arguments I've heard for character inclusion.
2. Samus has been confirmed, I know this too. I just felt she deserved a spot here because many people are afraid she will somehow be replaced by Zamus(?).
3. Sorry, but all people who participated in the Zelda argument are Douschbags. No matter which side they were on. I do like Zelda, and I think OOt is the best (I've beaten all of them) but this is my OPINION.
4.IMDB is not reliable, but like many have said, he is the only character up there. And I definently don't know for certain, but the actual actors may have some say in what goes on their profile. Probably not.
Hope this helps, just try to stay on topic. And for the love of god, somebody just start a "Which Zelda is Best?" thread. This argument comes up on like 60 percent of the threads, and I'm sick of it.
Gypsy Lee
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I'm sorry for screwing up your thread. I had no intention to start a Zelda war. I was just stating why I didn't care for Ganondorf, but I didn't expect someone to get on my case about it.
dynamic_entry
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well, while we may be douchebags, we have been the main contributors to your "most successful thread". talk about ungrateful.
Red_Maniac
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The official website (before it became a blog-like site) OFFICIALLY confirmed that suited Samus is in Brawl.
One song doesn't confirm him in anyway.
That's the same site that said that Captain Janeway from Star Trek would be in Power Rangers.
I'm not saying that these characters won't be in Brawl. I'm saying that little things don't confirm characters unless that little thing is a sentence that says "This character will be in Brawl." Or something like that... >_>
bloodvayne
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when were you being a douchebag? I didn't call green lizard that because I was against his arguement (I was partly for it...). I called him a douchebag because of the way he was going about his arguement, and the way he was talking to others.
the grim lizard
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You called me that because you're too ignorant to think of a intelligent response. That's how those things tend to go.
And, I believe he was referring to this:
And I was going about my argument saying "It is held as one of the best games of all time." That was pretty much it in a nutshell. Most people completely disregarded what I said and just made up something in their own minds about what I wrote. I wasn't getting on people for their own opinions, but don't come into forums for game which contains the "Nintendo All-Stars" and bag on one of the best series Nintendo has...that's all I'm saying.
(The fact that you called me "green lizard" proves my point that you didn't even read what I wrote, but...end of discussion)
And, @leprechaunlink727...your thread would have died a long time ago if that one guy hadn't thrown in a little comment. There is really nothing to discuss here anymore. Ganondorf will probably be in. That's about it.
Gypsy Lee
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Who's the one guy?
Amen, brudda. Amen.
the grim lizard
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I believe you're the one that had to throw in the comment in the very beginning...
If you had said "I don't like Zelda game" or "they aren't my cup of tea"...whatever, I would have let it go. But "I hate them with a passion." That's just nonsense. Someone like that really has no business even playing a game like Smash, then. In my experience someone who says something like that is someone who sucked at the game and gave up or couldn't figure out a puzzle or what to do next so they decided they hated it...
Copperpot
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Why can't weeeeee be friends? Why can't weeeeee be friends? Why can't weeeeee be friends? Why can't we. Be. Frieeeeeeeends?
the grim lizard
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LukeFonFabre
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There are people who hate Mario games with a passion too. The same goes for Starfox, Metroid and especially pokemon it seems. Just because a person doesn't like all of Nintendo's franchises doesn't mean they aren't allowed to play smash. There's a little something called personal taste, and it differs from person. A pain, I know, but it's a harsh fact of life. Like you, I love the Zelda games, but I can understand why people may not be so fond of the series.
Regardless, if there was any doubt about regular Samus' return, todays comment put that to rest.
Regardless, if there was any doubt about regular Samus' return, todays comment put that to rest.
dynamic_entry
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surfing pikachu (sorta) confirmed
the grim lizard
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Epona sorta confirmed...
Gypsy Lee
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You didn't have to flame me for it. Like I said before, I was just stating why I didn't care for the Ganondorf thing.
Fine. I'll edit my first post if that makes you happy. BUT, you HAVE to stop arguing with every other person who posts on this thread. I realize I was being a little rude and a bit harsh on the game, but you haaaave to let it go already.
Oh, and I didn't suck at the game. I got to the part where you visit the realm of twili and I just quit.
I was like "Sweet, FINALLY, no more temples. I'm gonna fight fish guy with balls for mouth and save Hyrule!!! Yay!!! Wait a minute, is this another temple!? Gawd d****t, it is another temple! 20 hours of game play and I haven't progressed in the story at all!? How long is this d**n game anyway?"
I stopped playing it for awhile, and never really felt the urge to finish the game. So, I sold it. It wasn't my cup of tea. Then a month later, everyone's like OMG, that was like the greatest game of all time!! IMO, not really, but oh well, people have there opinions. I SHOULD RESPECT PEOPLE'S OPINIONS! The one thing I couldn't stand though, was people saying how awesome the boss fights were. I thought the boss fights were pretty lame. Almost all of them were the same thing: Stab it in the eye 3 times and you win. Sorry for that rant.
I was just agreeing with someone who posted that earlier. I just didn't quote him directly, so his username wouldn't show up, so he wouldn't get flamed. By you. If I were to have said, say, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time was my fav game ever, you wouldn't have said anything. That's pretty hypocritical if you ask me. So, that proves that you are just p!ssed at me, and trying to find every little thing to flame me for.
Caael
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He didn't say Ridley was 100% confirmed. It's a confirmed (sorta) topic, which means characters that have a high chance of getting in.
bloodvayne
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I wasn't trying to make an intelligent respnse. All I was doing was calling you a douchebag, which you just keep proving more and more to be true. I'm just name-calling, so sue me.
So you're saying that, but then telling someone else to go to a RE4 forum to post about how that is "the best game of all time?" Your logic baffles me, I honestly can't wait to see how your next response bewilders me as well. I know what you're arguement was, like I said, you were being a douchebag about it. You're first post in here you called someone's opinion dumb and ridiculous. That's all fine and well, but then you go on to say that his opinion doesn't count as opinion, because he's, oh so wrong. Douchebag. And I've seen several times in here you calling people twelve year olds or children, basing it off not much more than, well, their opinion. People can have opinions, no matter how farfetched those opinions are. It's an entitlement of sorts. Just like my opinion of you is that you're a douchebag. Every single post you make you try to point out "the ignorance" of somebody else, trying to make yourself feel high and mighty. I don't remember who said it, but they were very correct in saying you need to get over yourself.
Or maybe it just proves that I really don't care what your name is? I already gave you a new name anyways. Douchebag.
Armygeddon Bomb
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Ridley seems more like a NPC boss like Giga Bowser (without AR or Gameshark) and Master/Crazy Hand. He can easily fly and is very large. Ganondorf is a nice find, I wonder what he will look like.
Caael
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Nono, Ridley is awesome and should be playable. If he's gonna be a boss, he should be an unlockable boss.
the grim lizard
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Actually...I based it off the fact that they have their age listed in their profile. Hmm
And by the way, go get a thesaurus and learn a new word.
pineappleupsetshark
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I think King Dedede is semi-confirmed, due to being heavily considered for both SSB64 and SSBM, before being taken out due to time constraints. Considering Sakurai's involvement with the Kirby games, it seems obvious to everyone that King Dedede will be in Brawl.
^agree on Ridley-thing. I personally prefer Ridley as a boss instead of a playable character. I like him, but i think changing his size, wing-span, etc would ruin a potentially good boss. well thats IMO.
btw-this entire disscussion of whether Zelda games are good or not need it own thread, ya digg?
btw-this entire disscussion of whether Zelda games are good or not need it own thread, ya digg?
bloodvayne
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Yeah, like you didn't pull that straight out of your ***...
If you insist...
grim lizard, you are a ******l washer
Better? Nahh, douchebag has more, umph, to it.
Bunch of elitist pinheads.
If you think The Legend of Zelda is the greatest videogame franchise ever, awesome. Go fangasm over it. If you think that it isn't, awesome. Don't fangasm over it.
Some people get so absorbed by consoles and sprites and discs and ficticious characters that they forget that games were made to have fun with them. If you don't have fun with a game, you don't have to play it because others freaking say so. It's this inane consideration of games to be something hardcore that makes people spew idiocies like "You don't deserve the play this videogame if you didn't enjoy this other one".
Go do something real.
Now, getting back on topic, a theme called "Ridley Boss Fight" doesn't necessarily confirm Ridley. You're reading too much into it. With Yoshi I will agree because it already had excellent chances to begin with and now it has a themesong and a stage, but for all we know Ridley could be a stage hazard, an un-unlockable boss or not appear at all. Speculation is fun, but presenting conjectures as fact isn't.
If you think The Legend of Zelda is the greatest videogame franchise ever, awesome. Go fangasm over it. If you think that it isn't, awesome. Don't fangasm over it.
Some people get so absorbed by consoles and sprites and discs and ficticious characters that they forget that games were made to have fun with them. If you don't have fun with a game, you don't have to play it because others freaking say so. It's this inane consideration of games to be something hardcore that makes people spew idiocies like "You don't deserve the play this videogame if you didn't enjoy this other one".
Go do something real.
Now, getting back on topic, a theme called "Ridley Boss Fight" doesn't necessarily confirm Ridley. You're reading too much into it. With Yoshi I will agree because it already had excellent chances to begin with and now it has a themesong and a stage, but for all we know Ridley could be a stage hazard, an un-unlockable boss or not appear at all. Speculation is fun, but presenting conjectures as fact isn't.
RWB
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Kunitsuna is right. Grim Lizard, Gypsy Lee had all the right in the world to say that he hated it(He didn't even put his opinion as fact). There will always be people hating a game, it's just that simple. Had you just respected his opinion, this stupid debate wouldn't have been started.
Just kiss and make up? (Not literally, well unless you really want to...)
Lets just bury this whole Zelda argument, m'kay?
Just kiss and make up? (Not literally, well unless you really want to...)
Lets just bury this whole Zelda argument, m'kay?
leprechaunlink727
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Administrators, please destroy my thread. It is an abomination and should be cast into the abyss. People like Zelda too much. People like Zelda too little. People obviously don't know what "sorta" means. DESTROY IT!