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I pray this is a joke. I'm afraid WFT is pretty bad. She just has a bunch of gimmicks and some extremely powerful moves which can devastate if they land (which they shouldn't). Also you actually can't litterally drop her soccer ball and hit it with some other move just like Duck Hunt's can, it is not a very effective strategy.
I disagree. Since M2K and ADHD (the only two people who had won so far) were both banned, Gnes's near-flawless performance will always be cast into doubt by "what-ifs." Contrast that with today, where it is undeniable that Nairo was the best player in the world on 10-18-2015. It's a shame it worked out that way, and MLG Dallas could have been so much more, but as it stands today's tournament is so much more significant (easily one of the most significant Smash tournaments ever).
Doc's recovery is decent. People just gotta Tornado stall more to avoid edgeguards and he's solid offstage for the most part.
Yeah, Doc is a really bad MU for Samus. Like 60:40 Doc, which stems from the 65:35 or 70:30 advantage Mario has over Samus.
Exactly. Get pretty tired of people constantly dissing Doc's recovery. Watching those matches you could pretty much sense the commentators expecting Doc's demise almost every time he went off stage. Then the ONE time Doc gets gimped it's like "Yep, just another example of Doc's recovery being so awful...", just ignoring the bunches of times Nairo recovered with him just fine.
Huge hitbox that kills and stage spikes, really that is what redeems the move.
While I do agree with you, I feel that 2 stocks is still the way to go since Smash 4 has good end times now. I am not very fond of staying up all night to finish a tournament like I usually do with Melee. Course, this doesn't occur all the time. I really do enjoy the pace of the game now, and I can only hope it'll get more aggressive to the point that we can optimally choose a 3-stock rule.
Not arguing for or against the idea of her being high tier, or whether she's bad or not but WFT isn't any more gimmicky than any other character, especially if this is in reference to her low percent kill setups. This whole mentality of "shouldn't get hit by x" needs to stop already. The list of things we shouldn't be getting hit by but somehow are all the time is growing larger and larger everyday and at the top of it is ZSS' frame 16 grab which people are still arguing is reactable.
If she jabs the soccer ball it doesn't have a hitbox.
It does actually. You can maneuver yourself when canceling header and hitting with the center of her arm rather than the tip of her jab where it's intangible causes the header to stay active. So just inch forward slightly before landing. Instant zoning tool.
I didn't bother replying to him cause I didn't want to start a flame war. But yeah thanks for backing me up on it. That ball is mostly useful for mixing up the edgeguard and extending the range at which you can punish. I don't personally use her but I know someone who does effectively.
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