Comparison of the 3 most probable mario reps.

[Thirdkoopa]

I decided to make this thread since this is a highly heated topic that is going around (Smashworldforums and Nsider.)

Please don't flame me for this as i am just stating the many possibility's of this and going over the 3 top competitor's for the 1-2 Mario newcomer slots, Geno Bowser Jr and Paper Mario, The subject really matters on what you think of it more but this is my first topic i have made on here so i am a bit nervous, Just please don't flame me (Or spam the thread.) I Will try to be non-biased with this and less opinionated as i personally want all 3 of them in but i know only 1-2 will make it.

So just please read along on my full thoughts on all of it, Thanks.



1.Popularity;
What this one is about;Self explanitory.

This goes to step one in the basics of getting in really, Paper Mario's games are very popular as he has been noticed, Geno has some cult behind him and quite a bit of popularity especially around the older gamers of the time and sakurai's poll/Journal results, Bowser Jr has quite a bit of popularity and to recent gamers he happens to attract well.

Geno - ***
Paper Mario - ***
Bowser Jr. - ***

Overal analysis;
I would say that Paper Mario is the most popular out of the three being that he has three of his own games that have gotten a high ammount of popularity, Geno is more known around older gamers and gamers who have heard about his game while Jr is known around newer gamers, It all depends really.


2.Signifigance;
What this one is about;Here i will be talking about how many games they each have stared in, Keep in mind that this is NOT Judged by plot signifigance as i will be covering that later.

Geno unfortunantly has only made it into 2 games, A Cameo in one, Paper Mario has made it into 3 altogether and Bowser Jr has what? Like 6? Correct me if i'm wrong but still a lot between them.

Geno - *
Paper Mario - **
Bowser Jr. - ****

Overall Analysis;
I Won't lie, Bowser Jr is the most signifigant, Afterwards i would say Paper Mario for starring in those games and Geno really has the lower hand here.

3.Plot Signifigance;
What this one is about;This is were i judge the "Disregarding cameo's/Spin off roles" Disregarding there number of games it's telling how important they are to them and the plot in the games they play.

Paper Mario has been the main character of 3 Games with a story that is move-breaking into all of them, Geno in his game was said to be the main protaginist like the Midna of the plot were he leads Mario and Mallow to the rest of the star's (Been a long time since i've played the game right .) Bowser Jr however is said to be more of the Zant of the plot in all 3 of his games and is just Bowser's pawn servant (He even says in galaxy that he is granting his fathers wishes.) Which only makes him do that.

Geno - **** OR ***
Paper Mario - ****
Bowser Jr. - **

Overall Analysis;
Since geno has played a bigger role in one then Jr did in 3 with not much then that gives him quite a boost here but not by much, Paper Mario has had more of a moving plot in all 3 and can even be said right there to be the main character, It's more around debateable

4.Uniqueness;
What this one is about;Judging how sakurai would go over there movesets.

Paper Mario already has some moves that we have seen before but with around 20 Moves in all of his games (Pixls, Partners, And a couple of extra's like different jumps or rolling into a tube which can be used for good character development.) Geno only has a couple but his moves bring an attire to Smash that you have never seen before, Bowser Jr would require more made-up moves from his paintbrush, He offers a bit but also making shadow Mario if sakurai wanted to is more work that isn't worth it for the character. (I Seriously went back and played all 3 of the games a bit.)

Geno - ****
Paper Mario - ****
Bowser Jr. - ***

Overall analysis;
With PM Maybe having a harder moveset for the developers to make with many customizeables make it a bit hard to chose but he could easily have many gimmicks never seen before while Geno brings an attire never used before, Bowser Jr requires them to make up moves, Not much of a problem but he will probably also have to use Shadow Mario, Also note how in all his other games besides sunshine that he has little moves to be used, Still some and i won't deny that.

5.Sakurai's poll/Journal results;
What this one is about;Self explanitory obvious much? This one is judging how they have all been shown through that and a couple of other things.

Geno ranked a whipping 2nd on sakurai's polls and 5 Journal entries which is right next to the loveable penguin, Bowser Jr was only really supported after a couple of others like Toad were dropped, Paper Mario wasn't on either one like Jr BUT He was very noticeable at the Old Nsider as many wanted him for a Dr.Mario replacement and ranked decently on the Nsider polls they had.

Geno - ****
Paper Mario - **
Bowser Jr. - *

Overall analysis;
Geno really beats the crud out of all of them to be quite honest in this catigory, Paper Mario and Jr are pretty compareable here but not much between the two.


6.Overall analysis;
This is the part were i will judge the final things.
Now with Luigi returning and 3 Confirmed (Mario Bowser and Peach.) The Mario series technically gets a "Get one (Or two.) Free!" Slot with Doc out of the way, (Main antagonist/Protaginist/Princess/Sidekick.) So we are sure to at least see one more since it's popularity from melee hasn't decreased, 2? Sure, Why not?

Geno - 15 Stars OR 16 Stars.
Paper Mario - 15 Stars.
Bowser Jr. - 13 Stars.

For our final thing let's now judge the routes of "If there was one newcomer" And "If there were two" For the series.

~5 - Route 1.
Same as melee, One is unlockable and Luigi returns as unlockable (Likely to happen.)

For this route let's just say that they already bought geno's copyrights, If they can't then it goes to route 2.

What happens; Geno goes on to be playable.

~5 - Route 2.
Now this is the route were the developers don't want to get geno's copyrights but they stick with melee

So here's our map;

[strike]Geno[/strike] ---- Paper Mario OR Bowser Jr.

What i would say for here is that it depends on what sakurai wants more, They both look alike (Mario to PM, Bowser to Bowser Jr.) So if he wants a Mario RPG Rep and represent the everso popular Paper Mario then he will go do that, If he wants to however instead add more to the regular then....

What happens; Paper Mario has more for him here, Bowser Jr could still get in over easily as well.

~6 - Route 3.
If the roster ends out a bit bigger then why not potentially add another one? Now if we look at the star system then Geno and Paper Mario could be said to be higher then Bowser Jr, However it's likely that one could easily be dropped (Sakurai could forget about PM Or they might not buy geno's copyrights.)

The one that is the most likely is at the top and the least likely is at the bottom;

Option one: Geno and Paper Mario
Option two: Bowser Jr and Geno
Option three: Bowser Jr and Paper Mario

Who will ultimantely win if the developers go that way? We don't know, It could go any way but the favor is a bit closer to Geno and Paper Mario, However i won't completely rule Jr out just yet due to his nice ammount of games and popularity in the clear and the fact that he could easily get in over one of those two, We'll have to wait and see.

And thanks for reading I Would enjoy comments now.

 

[smashbro29]

cool you're from the old nsider so was i!

 

[Banjodorf]

Interesting read, and a good analysis.

It all made sense to me, I just find it very hard to see paper Mario in action in Brawl, but I suppose if game and watch, (also 2D) can survive, so can paper Mario.

I'd prefer to see all 3, but well have to wait ans see, wont we?

 

[Shuma]

Nsider... Ugh.

 

[Bassoonist]

I'm really hoping just Geno and Paper Mario make it in. That would be perfect IMO.

 

[Cinder]

I must disagree with the significance section...imo, Geno should have at LEAST three stars...he may have only been in one game (btw, Ice Climbers say hi)...but he was pretty much the center of it...and if you think about it, he's the father of the Mario RPG games...so we may not have had PM without him...

And btw, PM's chances are indeed slim...

EDIT: did it take that long for me to reply O_O?

 

[Banjodorf]

I must disagree with the significance section...imo, Geno should have at LEAST three stars...he may have only been in one game (btw, Ice Climbers say hi)...but he was pretty much the center of it...and if you think about it, he's the father of the Mario RPG games...so we may not have had PM without him...

And btw, PM's chances are indeed slim...

slim as paper? Sorry, i had to say it, carry on.

 

[Oblivion129]

I'd prefer to see Geno and Paper Mario rather than Bowser Jr. Good analysis btw.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Interesting read, and a good analysis.

It all made sense to me, I just find it very hard to see paper Mario in action in Brawl, but I suppose if game and watch, (also 2D) can survive, so can paper Mario.

I'd prefer to see all 3, but well have to wait ans see, wont we?

3 Seems unlikely but yeah.

Nsider... Ugh.

Hi, BTW I'm not like the average idiots there (Nsider2 from.) I Also go on here and many other forums.

I'm really hoping just Geno and Paper Mario make it in. That would be perfect IMO.

I Agree, But BJ Wouldn't be bad either.

I must disagree with the significance section...imo, Geno should have at LEAST three stars...he may have only been in one game (btw, Ice Climbers say hi)...but he was pretty much the center of it...and if you think about it, he's the father of the Mario RPG games...so we may not have had PM without him...

And btw, PM's chances are indeed slim...

Signifigance was how many games they were, But "Plot signifigance" Is judging what the game overall did for nintendo and everything.

And PM Has solid chances really, I Would personally say that they are higher then BJ.

 

[3D King]

I actually was surprised to see how much I agreed with you. Well thought out and about as least bias as your going to get. *applause*

 

[Granetdud]

I bet out of this List, Geno has the largest chance. His points were very proven in your topic, thank you.

 

[Cinder]

I actually was surprised to see how much I agreed with you. Well thought out and about as least bias as your going to get.

Seconded...it is indeed well thought out and unbiased...

@3rdKoopa: ah, I see...well, then maybe Geno should have one more star there? I'm just sayin'...he's the center of the plot...the game is about accomplishing his goal...fix the Star Road...

EDIT: @Granetdud: seconded...

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I bet out of this List, Geno has the largest chance. His points were very proven in your topic, thank you.

Geno probably does...

I actually was surprised to see how much I agreed with you. Well thought out and about as least bias as your going to get. *applause*

Thanks .

I'd prefer to see Geno and Paper Mario rather than Bowser Jr. Good analysis btw.

I Personally do also but i wouldn't mind any of them as they all would welcome great additions.

Seconded...it is indeed well thought out and unbiased...

@3rdKoopa: ah, I see...well, then maybe Geno should have one more star there? I'm just sayin'...he's the center of the plot...the game is about accomplishing his goal...fix the Star Road...

EDIT: @Granetdud: seconded...

I Guess i could move him up but i was judging signifigance by a basic number of games which is why i put two sections (Plot and regular signifigance.) But i'll probably fix that.

 

[Cinder]

Geno probably does...

Seconded...can someone count how many times I've said that

I Guess i could move him up but i was judging signifigance by a basic number of games which is why i put two sections (Plot and regular signifigance.) But i'll probably fix that.

Oh, I just meant the PLOT significance...I understand why he's low in the Regular...don't worry about changing that one...just plot...

 

[smashbro29]

Nsider... Ugh.

i'm not idiot just because i'm from nsider

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Seconded...can someone count how many times I've said that



Oh, I just meant the PLOT significance...I understand why he's low in the Regular...don't worry about changing that one...just plot...

Fixed that, And not sure...Probably like four times now you said that ?

 

[pcamtz]

The way I see it, Mario WILL get two reps. Simply because it's Nintendo's biggest franchise. So Geno (my pick) has 2 out of 3 possible outcomes, thats 66%, a lil low but it's alright.

As for the second one I'll be ok with anyone of them, I'm a big fan of the Paper Mario games but I don't know if he'd fit as well as Bowser Jr.

If Paper Mario does makes it in, I'd like him to be a WTF character, with his partners being his attacks ala Mr. Game and Watch. I can picture him, using Bobbery as a B move, B-> would be the Koopa from the original, B^, parakarry anyone?. I have to admit, when I was first writing this I was like "Whatever, Paper Mario or Bowser Jr. is the same", but writing this moves made me want him!

So Geno and Paper Mario for Brawl!

 

[Kronzo]

I honestly think Geno has the highest chance.. But i'd rather have G&W over Paper Mario. and Bowser Jr., although being obscure, will probably be in the game as at least an AT, if not a playable character

 

[IsmaR]

Why do people keep making these topics?

 

[Speedwobbles223]

Wheres Kamek

 

[Speedwobbles223]

i'm not idiot just because i'm from nsider

im also from nsider

doublepost idc

 

[pcamtz]

Wheres Kamek

Kamek would be a Yoshi rep.

 

[626key]

sorry to seem unbiased, but I'm a big paper mario suporter for having played all his games

 

[TBone06]

I think in my personal opinion that Geno has the best chance because I believe that the journal entries is huge, (3 of the top 5 are confirmed) and the others werent even on it. However if either Jr or PM make it Im happy either way, as long as Geno is in first. Btw thirdkoopa, pm me about making a SE scenario with Geno and PM

 

[626key]

I do want to see geno in, but PM has a beter chance for at least two reasons, 1: he has been in 3 games while geno has been in 1, and 2: PM is compleatly owned by nintendo while geno is shared by square

 

[TBone06]

I do want to see geno in, but PM has a beter chance for at least two reasons, 1: he has been in 3 games while geno has been in 1, and 2: PM is compleatly owned by nintendo while geno is shared by square

but just remember, even though Paper Mario is different from Mario, he is still MARIO, where Geno is his own unique character.
EDIT: thats another thing that Geno has for him, if either PM or Jr. make it into brawl, there will be two of a similar character, not a clone dont get me wrong, but Jr. is still in sense a type of Bowser and Paper Mario is indeed Mario

 

[Krell]

I do want to see geno in, but PM has a beter chance for at least two reasons, 1: he has been in 3 games while geno has been in 1, and 2: PM is compleatly owned by nintendo while geno is shared by square

Numbers of games is absolutely irrelevant, *cough*ice climbers*cough*.

 

[Meta Jr]

I would like to see all three. But if only two were in I'd like to see a fun match against Bowser Jr and Paper Mario.

 

[Shuma]

Ok ok, i get it, generalizing is bad.

 

[DeuceBlade]

Ok you Geno fan boys, you are really blind to think Geno is even close to being as important/significant as Bowser Jr.

Geno was not the star of Super Mario RPG, Mario was. Geno was not the main protagonist or Antagonist meaning he did not serve a equal or higher role than the main characters Good & bad.

Bowser Jr on the other hand has served as the Main antagonist in not one but two games, Super mario Sunshine, and New Super Mario bros. -- and for all the fanboys who say "Oh no bowser iz deh true major bad guy", well guess what? Nintendo disagrees with you. Bowser served as only a boss in NSMB, and Sunshine.. he was not really important to the overall plot like Bowser Jr was.

Bowser Jr is also extremely current, and has been appearing in nearly every Mario title since Mario sunshine back in 2002.. thats 6 years of games he has been in, and he will also star in the new Mario Stadium baseball game (using his paintbrush).

For those who say number of games do not matter, you are correct, but using characters like IC, or Pit to support geno = wrong, why you say? because unlike Geno, IC and Pit are actually the main protagonist of their games.

Geno only has 1 true appearance in a game, SMRPG.. trying to use the "M&L" cameo as something to back him up is like trying to credit Yoshi for appearing in LoZ: Link's Awakening... They are just dolls, and not the actual character.

Bowser Jr has the highest chances to appear in brawl, amongst these three characters.. (Although Paper Mario is pretty much confirmed to appear in some form due to the "Rawk Hawk" sticker)

Sakurai knows that Filler characters like Waluigi, and Daisy should not be playable, but Bowser Jr is far from filler.

 

[Boomer]

Ok you Geno fan boys, you are really blind to think Geno is even close to being as important/significant as Bowser Jr.

Geno was not the star of Super Mario RPG, Mario was. Geno was not the main protagonist or Antagonist meaning he did not serve a equal or higher role than the main characters Good & bad.

Bowser Jr on the other hand has served as the Main antagonist in not one but two games, Super mario Sunshine, and New Super Mario bros. -- and for all the fanboys who say "Oh no bowser iz deh true major bad guy", well guess what? Nintendo disagrees with you. Bowser served as only a boss in NSMB, and Sunshine.. he was not really important to the overall plot like Bowser Jr was.

Bowser Jr is also extremely current, and has been appearing in nearly every Mario title since Mario sunshine back in 2002.. thats 6 years of games he has been in, and he will also star in the new Mario Stadium baseball game (using his paintbrush).

For those who say number of games do not matter, you are correct, but using characters like IC, or Pit to support geno = wrong, why you say? because unlike Geno, IC and Pit are actually the main protagonist of their games.

Geno only has 1 true appearance in a game, SMRPG.. trying to use the "M&L" cameo as something to back him up is like trying to credit Yoshi for appearing in LoZ: Link's Awakening... They are just dolls, and not the actual character.

Bowser Jr has the highest chances to appear in brawl, amongst these three characters.. (Although Paper Mario is pretty much confirmed to appear in some form due to the "Rawk Hawk" sticker)

Sakurai knows that Filler characters like Waluigi, and Daisy should not be playable, but Bowser Jr is far from filler.

We were all thinkin' it. We were either just too lazy to type it up, or we were tired of proving our point. Please just accept defeat... Please. Cuz my fingers are tired of typing the same thing over and over.

 

[Sasori's_Shadow]

First of all, I like this analysis. It's so much more well thought-out than so many other arguments I've seen in this regard, even though it's really kind of inaccurate. For one, I see some categories having higher priority than others. When I say that I mean that some categories are more important than others, and I'd say that makes the overall analysis a bit inaccurate. Also, "plot significance" and "significance" (appearances) should really be merged into one category, but I guess I'll address those separately for now.

Anyways, I see nothing wrong with the analyses of the first two categories. Popularity is hard to gauge (though from what I can tell Junior is the most popular character as of now), so giving them all even numbers here is fair I guess. Appearances aren't something that can be addressed, for obvious reasons. I really only have a large problem with one category: plot significance.

3.Plot Signifigance;
Bowser Jr however is said to be more of the Zant of the plot in all 3 of his games and is just Bowser's pawn servant (He even says in galaxy that he is granting his fathers wishes.) Which only makes him do that.

Geno - **** OR ***
Paper Mario - ****
Bowser Jr. - **

Overall Analysis;
Since geno has played a bigger role in one then Jr did in 3 with not much then that gives him quite a boost here but not by much, Paper Mario has had more of a moving plot in all 3 and can even be said right there to be the main character, It's more around debateable

I can see both Bowser Jr and PM given higher numbers here. PM is most likely the most significant to his games out of the three seeing as he's the protagonist of them (arguably the most important role of any game save maybe the main antagonist). Geno is a very important "side" character and Junior's role is inconsistent throughout his appearances, though has had roles as the main antagonist.

On that note, Junior's plot significance, like I said, is inconsistent. That's why I would merge this category with "significance" to make a general significance category. Still, Junior is given relatively low numbers here based on your reasoning for them. Junior is NOT Bowser's pawn, in fact he works independently of Bowser in Mario Sunshine and the New Super Mario Bros (it's also hinted at somewhat in Galaxy). Both of the mentioned appearances I might add, were as the main antagonist of the game, which is very significant to the plot-line (again, it's arguably as important a role as the main protagonist). No antagonist, no plot. And yes, Bowser served as the final boss of both games along side Junior, though there is a difference between "main antagonist" and "final boss." Junior made and enacted the plans to capture Peach in both the mentioned games, making him without argument the main antagonist of both games.

Personally I'd give him the same numbers as Geno here. He's not as important as PM, though only because of his inconsistent roles.

But again, the whole analysis would be a bit more accurate if you were to merge the two categories I mentioned. It's because of Junior's so many appearances that I would give him a lower score in this area; if you were to merge the two, Junior's probably the most significant of the three (generally speaking).

And of course there are other variables to take into account. Junior is much more recognizable, he's a more recent character than the other two. You could also address the games these characters have starred in as well, as in which games had a larger impact on audiences? That effects the character's importance as well.

Really, I'd say it's Bowser Jr who has the best chances out of the three. Or rather, he's the most deserving out of them. His character has more depth to it than PM or Geno, he's more recognizable, had more appearances, has possessed very important roles during said appearances, and has great move-set potential (paintbrush/pole-arm weapon). Plus, you can't have Bowser without Bowser Jr nowadays, it's innappropriate.

But like I said, while this analysis is well thought-out, it's not very accurate. Nevertheless, I like it, because it's an intelligent argument. But we've had so many debates over this topic, that there doesn't need to be any more. I'm so tired of repeating myself so many times.

 

[Boomer]

First of all, I like this analysis. It's so much more well thought-out than so many other arguments I've seen in this regard, even though it's really kind of inaccurate. For one, I see some categories having higher priority than others. When I say that I mean that some categories are more important than others, and I'd say that makes the overall analysis fairly inaccurate.

EVERYONE... MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!!!!! E-Hem... thank you. This is an exact example of how to not make any sense at all, and yet, contradict yourself at the same time. It's quite incredible actually. This event occurs in nature with a lower chance than a triple negative. Please take your time and acknowledge this rare occurrance.

 

[B.W.]

I must disagree with the significance section...imo, Geno should have at LEAST three stars...he may have only been in one game (btw, Ice Climbers say hi)...but he was pretty much the center of it...and if you think about it, he's the father of the Mario RPG games...so we may not have had PM without him...

And btw, PM's chances are indeed slim...

EDIT: did it take that long for me to reply O_O?

Seconded...it is indeed well thought out and unbiased...

@3rdKoopa: ah, I see...well, then maybe Geno should have one more star there? I'm just sayin'...he's the center of the plot...the game is about accomplishing his goal...fix the Star Road...
EDIT: @Granetdud: seconded...

Alright.. Sorry I have to point this out to you.

Geno isn't really the father of all Mario RPG games.. Mario is. Geno is the third character you get, and originally the point of the game is rescuing Princess Peach. Though it is true that you have to fix the star road, even with Geno, Mario's mission is to rescue Peach. The star road needs to be fixed so wishes can be granted so you can rescue her (though you end up rescuing her anyway..) But the Star Road still needs to be fixed. Not because Geno says so. But so wishes can be granted again. So you can defeat Smithy. Because you need wishes to defeat Smithy.

The ultimate mission isn't really Geno's mission to collect all the Star Pieces but to destroy Smithy and save the Mushroom Kingdom. I'm pretty sure that if Geno and his Star Road weren't presented in the story the game still would have gone just fine. Think of Geno's (and the Star Road) addition to SMRPG as a the cherry on your ice cream sunday. It's not really needed, but it's still a nice little extra.

 

[Sasori's_Shadow]

EVERYONE... MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!!!!! E-Hem... thank you. This is an exact example of how to not make any sense at all, and yet, contradict yourself at the same time. It's quite incredible actually. This event occurs in nature with a lower chance than a triple negative. Please take your time and acknowledge this rare occurrance.

Yeah, not seeing the self-contradiction on my part. And do I really need to point out that you're not making any sense at all yourself?

"I don't understand what he's trying to say, yet I can say with absolute certainty he's contradicting himself."

My post still sounds fine to me. Maybe if you could explain how I contradicted myself, that would help, and I can edit for clarity or whatever. Might be hard though, because I'm not making sense to you am I?

And...I still don't understand this. This is laughable. Wow, way to accomplish nothing while making no sense yourself.

 

[Matt Silver]

Geno is the Vincent of Mario RPG. Sure he only appeared once, but he was as popular as Mario (Or Cloud in FF7). Vincent has his own game, so why not have Geno appear in Brawl?

Buuut... I like the idea of Bowser Jr being the most recent. My question is - what would prevent little Bowser from becoming a clone (Or a faster Bowser easier to knock around?).

 

[Boomer]

TO THE NARUTARD(sasori's shadow): I never said that I didn't understand what you're saying (nice try though). And BTW, anyone past a fifth grade education that still uses "eh" to begin a sentence most likely either lives in Canada, or took his mother to Prom. Tell her I left the money on the counter.

 

[B.W.]

Geno is the Vincent of Mario RPG. Sure he only appeared once, but he was as popular as Mario (Or Cloud in FF7). Vincent has his own game, so why not have Geno appear in Brawl?

Buuut... I like the idea of Bowser Jr being the most recent. My question is - what would prevent little Bowser from becoming a clone (Or a faster Bowser easier to knock around?).

Geno is the Vincent of Mario RPG? Mario is Cloud? Square had part in this Nintendo game, but it's really not a game you can compare to a FF game. And if you must compare it to any FF game please choose something better than the over-rated, emo filled trash better known as FF7.

Also, if you look at any game where Bowser Jr. is playing a serious role he's more like a ninja than he is a slow (but bad ***) fat-*** (hey I rhymed) like his father Bowser.

 

[Sasori's_Shadow]

TO THE NARUTARD(sasori's shadow): I never said that I didn't understand what your saying (nice try though). And BTW, anyone past a fifth grade education that still uses "eh" to begin a sentence most likely either lives in Canada, or took his mother to Prom. Tell her I left the money on the counter.

Yes, that's really mature of you. I'm not sure this even merits a response.

You said yourself I wasn't making any sense. That's almost synonymous with "I don't understand you." While you didn't use those exact words, it means the same thing; anyone whose passed (not "past") the fifth grade would understand this.

And you still haven't even mentioned how I contradicted myself. Until then, there's nothing more that needs to be said here.

 

[B.W.]

Yes, that's really mature of you. I'm not sure this even merits a response.

You said yourself I wasn't making any sense. That's almost synonymous with "I don't understand you." While you didn't use those exact words, it means the same thing; anyone whose passed (not "past") the fifth grade would know this.

Look at the bold... What did you do? (If you chose answer B- Walked away like a mature adult then you chose wrong. The correct answer was A- Responded.)