Code Idea

[PanzerOceania]

This is not for brawl+ just so people don't say "OH MY GOD THAT IS AN ABOMINATION" This is just a random thought and I was wondering if it was possible.

Since you are pretty much screwed anyways when your shield is broken, I was wondering if you broke someones shield you would immediately get your final smash, this way the final smashes could be incorporated into the game without having items on or fighting over a smash ball. I'm not suggesting this for tourneys or anything, hell no way. Just for at home personal use, a little competitive match but you get a shiny prize if you break someone's shield, this is also going to make people even more hesitant to shield knowing the dire consequences of a broken one.

Just a random code idea, wondering if it was possible, and what people's thoughts are.

 

[Rudra]

1. Break Shield with Shield Breaker (if you can land it lol)
2. Get Final Smash
3. Use Critical Hit
4. ????
5. PROFIT!

Though, I wouldnt mind seeing this code for the lulz at least. XD

 

[AAP]

interesting idea, even though i hate final smashes. I'm not a hacker but i'd be curious if this is even possible, using a shield break on player A as an activator to give a final smash to player B . I doubt it'd be an easy bit of hacking, i don't see how the game would be able to recognize the shield break or who broke it.

Ah well , see what the people in the know say. Although they don't really do much for suggestions.

 

[DKKountry]

Break Shield with Shield Breaker

That's what I was thinking. Having a code liek this on would make Marth broken lulz.

 

[GHNeko]

That's what I was thinking. Having a code liek this on would make Marth broken lulz.

Shield Break your partner's shield in 2 v 2s and then just jab him.

 

[~tgm_Zeej]

This is actually an interesting idea.

What about Jigglypuff though? xD

You break her sheild, she dies, you get to kill her again with a free final smash.


But yeah, interesting concept. I like final smashes, but chasing the smash ball is just too random and game interrupting.

 

[Shell]

^ Not just jiggz, but against many characters you could just kill 'em with a fully charged smash and then take the next stock with your final smash. Assuming you aren't as playing Peach, etc. (which is another problem in and of itself).

 

[PanzerOceania]

yeah like i said, due to the nature of the idea it would be just for ****s and giggles but I just thought it would be fun at home with my friend to have some flashy finishes, it'd be more applicable in 1v1 and bypass the bull**** of the smash ball.

It's probably nigh impossible to code that though, having shield break on player A give player B the final smash.

I didn't consider the fact that you could just save it and double KO (it was late last night) hmm, that sucks, maybe have it auto unleash? but that has it's own issues, like if you are airborne depending on your character etc, plus it's just not as nice.

Hmm, that certainly is a big problem. Still, it'd be cool to see if it could be done.

Can anyone else think of a situation that is worth enough of such a reward?

 

[~tgm_Zeej]

Maybe another hack that takes away the FS when your opponent dies?

Seems like it'd be too much codespace to play with it and the B+ set though.

 

[PanzerOceania]

that'd be a good idea if possible, but it does sound like a lot of code.

 

[ShortFuse]

I'm a shieldbreaking Marth Player. After I Shieldbreak, I go for a tipped fSmash. Having a freebie guaranteed KO (Smash Ball) sounds too sweet.

 

[Shadic]

I actually kinda like the idea. I doubt it would be used, but it WOULD be a good way to re-incorporate one of the differences between Brawl and Melee that Brawl+ (And just Brawl Tournament play) got rid of.

And the idea of taking your final smash away when your opponent dies is good.

 

[Williaint]

It's a good idea, and it spawns more ideas:
If you can activate a Power ball, why not other items? A smart bomb, for instance, would give off enough a lot of damage (Though you'd probably get effected, too).
And maybe the shield breaking only increases your power somehow... (Raises your stats, like an RPG... )

I can't wait to see where this goes

 

[PanzerOceania]

hmm, I'd stay away from the items, just me and my friend thought it'd be fun to laugh at each other and OWN with a final smash.

taking it away after the opponent dies is a good idea, prolly makes it even more complicated though.

 

[Shell]

If you're just looking for ways to incorporate Final Smashes, consider this:

If all FS's were (roughly) equally powerful, I think it would be pretty cool to raise the stock to 5 (from the Brawl+ 4 stock standard) and let everyone use a single FS at any point in the match.

Maybe characters with bad FS's could use it twice? Possibly Taunt activated? Brainstormin' here.

 

[PanzerOceania]

that's actually a great idea SHeLL giving anyone the opportunity to use it at any time, it is true though that some can be abused more that others, which is sad, of course I guess ultimately they could be tweaked too. It's something to consider.

 

[Williaint]

If all FS's were (roughly) equally powerful,

Items would be equal power (Though, if you're avoiding that)...
I guess if you'd change the spare taunt effect to F-smash effect, that's best-- I mean if you want to use it anytime.
Making them equal for damage? Either you made them all the same one, or change them all drastically.

 

[TheFast]

What if this happens:

Marth vs MK

1)MK sheild breaks at 120%
2)Marth gets Final Smash
3)Marth F-smashes for the kill
4)MK comes back
5)Marth uses Final Smash for a 2nd kill.

plus when Jiggs sheild breaks she dies so that would give people free Final Smashes, and if jiggly breaks somebodies sheild she cant do anything with her final smash.

 

[Swordplay]

I argued for a code that would stop jiggs for dying from her shield break but it got rejected.....

I'm not sure why... People argued because it was rare but I don't think rarity should be a factor.

 

[PanzerOceania]

jiggs could use the help, if it's rare it doesn't change that when it does happen it sucks.

 

[Williaint]

Action Modifier [Phantom Wings]
4A000000 8077F780
D2000000 00000004
2C030000 41820010
2C1C0XXX 40820008
3B800YYY 60000000
939E0038 00000000
000 Stand
001 Walk
002
003 Dash
004 Run
005 Stop
006 Turn 1
007 Turn 2
008 Stop Turn
009
00A Start Jump
00B Jump
00C Second Jump
00E Fall 1
00F Fall 2
010 Fall Dissabled
011 Enter Crouch
012 Crouch
013
014
015 Exit Crouch
016 Land 1
017 Land 2
018
019 Land Dissabled
01A Enter Shield
01B Shield
01C Exit Shield
01D Perfect Shield??
01E Dodge
01F Roll Forward
020 Roll Back
021 Air Dodge
022
023
024 N Attack(and Combo)
025
026 R Attack
027 S Attack
028 U Attack
029 D Attack
02A S Smash Charge
02B S Smash
02C S Smash(again?)
02D D Smash Charge
02E D Smash
02F D Smash
030 U Smash Charge
031 U Smash
032 U Smash
033 Air Attack(All???)
034 Grab
035 Grabbing Enemy
036
037
038
039 Hold
03A Grab Attack
03B Release
03C Throw
03E Held
03F Held Damage
040 Escape
041
042 Thrown
043
044
045 Thrown Released
046 Hit ground(back)
047 Hit ground(face)
0BD Death
0BE Respawn
0F2 Enlarge(and Size Revert)
0F3 Shrink(and Size Revert)
10B Unloaded
10C Taunt(All 3)
10D
10E Entrance
10F Victory(All)
110 Loss

This might be helpful

 

[PanzerOceania]

looks like taunts are all in one boat, if you wanted to have it on a taunt command you would have to lose all your taunts. At least from what I am seeing and understanding

 

[Finns7]

when they break there shield make the taunt activate a slow down timer for your enemy. Dair dair dair dair warlock = seks