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Cloud's Palette Swaps (Alternate Costumes)

Ffamran

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Wow... That's... Really bad.
They're based on the SOLDIER ranks, but really? It's like Little Mac's, but if you only had half the alts. I understand that you can't really do much for Cloud in his minimalistic outfit, but I would like at least the whole team colors thing instead of dealing with just shades of purple, black, blue, and wine red.

Guess I'm sticking with the sleeveless black Advent Children alt. For Aerith!
 
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Garo

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I'm pretty disappointed, but hey, at least they're based on something from the actual game. I like that the AC outfit has sleeveless variations. Also, does Cloud's face look really different between the original and AC outfits? Never noticed that in the trailer, so may be it's just the angle.
 

Drippy

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I'm pretty disappointed, but hey, at least they're based on something from the actual game. Also, does Cloud's face look really different between the original and AC outfits? Never noticed that in the trailer, so may be it's just the angle.
I was literally ranting to my friend about
sleeveless AC outfit or double shoulder pad Crisis Core SOLDIER outfit or I'd be disappointed so I'm really happy.
Also might want to spoil some of your text despite how small the leak.
 

fenyx4

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Sigh...as expected, a mixed bag regarding Cloud's alternate costumes. Excluding Cloud's default "1st-Class SOLDIER" outfit and his Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children "Cloudy Wolf" outfit, I'm glad that a red/crimson outfit made it in (which I will interpret as dually referencing the "2nd-Class SOLDIER" uniform as well as Cloud's red outfit from Ehrgeiz).. I didn't even know that SOLDIER had other "classes" of outfits..although couldn't the Final Fantasy 7 developers have used green for 3rd-Class SOLDIER outfit to complete the "luminous chromatic triad/primary colors of light" arrangement? :laugh: In any case, the blue "3rd-Class SOLDIER" one kind of resembles the Shinra infantryman outfit minus the scarves and two shoulder pads, so I guess that I'm fine with it.. Overall, since the various grades of "SOLDIER classes" do exist, I'm glad that all of them are referenced.

So, the 3 SOLDIER classes and "Cloudy Wolf" - 4 out of 8 good costumes, good deal. I'm thankful that those ones managed to be implemented. I have an issue with the other "Cloudy Wolf" outfits...I would have liked just one Cloudy Wolf costume to make room for other key/vital Cloud costumes. In any case, the hues for the other "Cloudy Wolf" costumes are dark so it seems like they don't look distinctive enough from the normal black "Cloudy Wolf" outfit (unless they look more distinctive during gameplay), essentially being the "Brawl!Sonic, current!Lucario, and Pac-Man" uninspired alternate costume issue all over again. The "red/pink ribbon" reference is nice, I suppose, although I feel like it does not justify two alternate costumes dedicated to it..

And is there a reason that 4 of the Cloud costumes need to be so drab in coloration? I hope it's not that "third-party character needs to maintain 'recognizability/can't deviate too much from original design'" excuse that pops up so frequently... I mean, it's Cloud; people know what he looks like - he even cross-dressed for goodness' sakes!

Ideally, aside from the 3 SOLDIER classes and "Cloudy Wolf", I would have had these 4 options:
5 - Steady Light outfit, possibly with Ultima Sword/Blade/Weapon (based on Yo****aka Amano artwork): This one seemed like the most obvious one that I thought would be included, especially since it also doubles as a reference to Dissidia Final Fantasy. The white boots also help to make it pop and stand out.

6 - Final Fantasy Tactics outfit (Cloud's red-orangeish sprite): This one seemed really obscure and distinctive with a nice red-orange coloration that pops (compared to the drab Cloudy Wolf recolors that we have now); a shame that it wasn't included.

7 - Lightning/Éclair Farron-based outfit (Cloud using the coloration of Lightning from Final Fantasy 13): Lightning seems to be fairly popular (or detested...sigh), and she is personally infatuating, so I figured that she would be a shoo-in for some type of alternate costume, especially since she was initially designed with Cloud in mind. Also, it could double as a pseudo-reference to "cross-dressing Cloud", in a way, since Cloud is still taking on the aesthetics of a female character.. Very distinguishable from other choices.

8 - "Kingdom Hearts gear" outfit, possibly with bandaged sword (derives from Cloud's outfit in one of the Kingdom Hearts games...Kingdom Hearts 2?): It could act as a reference to Vincent Valentine, Kingdom Hearts, and Dissidia Final Fantasy all in one! And it looks rather menacing/cool..

9/Bonus - I would probably include the "Cloudy Wolf costume with red/pink ribbon reference" outfit as a 9th costume choice for Cloud (integrated as an extra "bonus", seeing as how costume numbers have not all been uniform in past Super Smash Bros. games)

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Well, here's hoping that a off-chance future Super Smash Bros. 4 update changes Cloud's alternate costumes or that Super Smash Bros. 5 rectifies the 4 (out of 8) underwhelming Cloud costume choices...

Interesting that Cloud's "Cloudy Wolf" outfit gets an alternate pose. I hope that there is isolated stock artwork of said pose (aside from the Trophy render), in the vein of Wire-Frame Little Mac and female Villager..

Odd how "Cloudy Wolf" (primarily derived from a movie) gets included over some of the more videogame-grounded concepts..

Also, with the currently-implemented costumes, it is kind of irritating that the "1st-Class SOLDIER" series of costumes and the "Cloudy Wolf" series of costumes are all jumbled up in terms of arrangement (ABABABAB arrangement as of 12-17-2015). The first set of 4 costumes should be "1st-Class SOLDIER" (AAAA), and the second set of 4 costumes should be "Cloudy Wolf" (BBBB) - thus yielding an AAAABBBB arrangement..simple! Wario had this down pat in Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Little Mac already has this down pat in Super Smash Bros. 4; why is the Cloud costume arrangement so confusing in Super Smash Bros. 4?! >_>
 
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Sigh...as expected, a mixed bag regarding Cloud's alternate costumes. Excluding Cloud's default "1st-Class SOLDIER" outfit and his Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children "Cloudy Wolf" outfit, I'm glad that a red/crimson outfit made it in (which I will interpret as dually referencing the
"2nd-Class SOLDIER" uniform as well as Cloud's red outfit from Ehrgeiz).. I didn't even know that SOLDIER had other "classes" of outfits..although couldn't the Final Fantasy 7 developers have used green for 3rd-Class SOLDIER outfit to complete the "luminous chromatic triad/primary colors of light" arrangement? In any case, the blue "3rd-Class SOLDIER" one kind of resembles the Shinra infantryman outfit minus the scarves and two shoulder pads, so I guess that I'm fine with it.. Overall, since the various grades of "SOLDIER classes" do exist, I'm glad that all of them are referenced.

So, the 3 SOLDIER classes and "Cloudy Wolf" - 4 out of 8 good costumes, good deal. I'm thankful that those ones managed to be implemented. I have an issue with the other "Cloudy Wolf" outfits...I would have liked just one Cloudy Wolf costume to make room for other key/vital Cloud costumes In any case, the hues for the other "Cloudy Wolf" costumes are dark so it seems like they don't look distinctive enough from the normal black "Cloudy Wolf" outfit (unless they look more distinctive during gameplay), essentially being the "Brawl!Sonic, current!Lucario, and Pac-Man" uninspired alternate costume issue all over again. The "red/pink ribbon" reference is nice, I suppose, although I feel like it does not justify two alternate costumes dedicated to it..

And is there a reason that 4 of the Cloud costumes need to be so drab in coloration? I hope it's not that "third-party character needs to maintain 'recognizability/can't deviate too much from original design'" excuse that pops up so frequently... I mean, it's Cloud; people know what he looks like - he even cross-dressed for goodness' sakes!

Ideally, aside from the 3 SOLDIER classes and "Cloudy Wolf", I would have had these 4 options:
5 - Steady Light outfit, possibly with Ultima Sword/Blade/Weapon (based on Yo****aka Amano artwork): This one seemed like the most obvious one that I thought would be included, especially since it also doubles as a reference to Dissidia Final Fantasy. The white boots also help to make it pop and stand out.

6 - Final Fantasy Tactics outfit (Cloud's red-orangeish sprite): This one seemed really obscure and distinctive with a nice red-orange coloration that pops (compared to the drab Cloudy Wolf recolors that we have now); a shame that it wasn't included.

7 - Lightning/Éclair Farron-based outfit (Cloud using the coloration of Lightning from Final Fantasy 13): Lightning seems to be fairly popular (or detested...sigh), and she is personally infatuating, so I figured that she would be a shoo-in for some type of alternate costume, especially since she was initially designed with Cloud in mind. Also, it could double as a pseudo-reference to "cross-dressing Cloud", in a way, since Cloud is still taking on the aesthetics of a female character.. Very distinguishable from other choices.

8 - "Kingdom Hearts gear" outfit, possibly with bandaged sword (derives from Cloud's outfit in one of the Kingdom Hearts games...Kingdom Hearts 2?): It could act as a reference to Vincent Valentine, Kingdom Hearts, and Dissidia Final Fantasy all in one! And it looks rather menacing/cool..

9/Bonus - I would probably include the "Cloudy Wolf costume with red/pink ribbon reference" outfit as a 9th costume choice for Cloud (integrated as an extra "bonus", seeing as how costume numbers have not all been uniform in past Super Smash Bros. games)

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Well, here's hoping that a off-chance future Super Smash Bros. 4 update changes Cloud's alternate costumes or that Super Smash Bros. 5 rectifies the 4 (out of 8) underwhelming Cloud costume choices...

Odd that Cloud's "Cloudy Wolf" outfit gets an alternate pose. I hope that there is isolated stock artwork of said pose (aside from the Trophy render), in the vein of Wire-Frame Little Mac and female Villager..

Also, with the currently-implemented costumes, it is kind of irritating that the "1st-Class SOLDIER" series of costumes and the "Cloudy Wolf" series of costumes are all jumbled up in terms of arrangement (ABABABAB arrangement as of 12-17-2015). The first set of 4 costumes should be "1st-Class SOLDIER" (AAAA), and the second set of 4 costumes should be "Cloudy Wolf" (BBBB) - thus yielding an AAAABBBB arrangement..simple! Wario had this down pat in Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Little Mac already has this down pat in Super Smash Bros. 4; why is the Cloud costume arrangement so confusing in Super Smash Bros. 4?! >_>

Assuming there is a Smash 5 and if Sakurai decides to bring back Cloud (or the other 3rd Party characters for it), and I agree with the alt costumes Cloud is the new Lucario/Sonic of this game as all but 2 maybe 3 costumes are all black, Red is the only good 1 in my opinion and is my favorite alt period, as it helps him stand out a bit (aside from the Blue alt doing the same thing.)
 

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I much prefer the blue Cloud costume. All the Cloudy Wolf costumes make my movement feel restricted.(yeah I know, it's a psychological thing).
Plus the Fusion Swords look weak af compared to the steely unyielding might of the Buster Sword.
No offence.
 

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Advent Children Cloud's hair looks a lot less like Goku's hair, and the sleeve that covers his left arm makes him feel cooler as well.
 
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