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Before Melee went into development, Sakurai had an "If There Was a Smash 2" poll in Japan to determine who would be most wanted for inclusion. While he did publish these results (again, only in Japan), not all so called "winners" were included. Some lesser characters who weren't even in the top five, like Princess Zelda, were.DON'T WORRY. THIS IS NOT THE BALLOT CHARACTER.IS NOT THE BALLOT CHARACTER. SO DON'T BE
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With the picture in mind, I think they were just messing around and trolling.
He was chosen over Black Mage because he's more popular. Like Nintendo would put in Black Mage as a third party character.
If you don't mind me asking, what Nintendo games have Cloud appeared in? As far as I know about him, he's been a Playstation guy appearing in games like FFVII, Ehrgeiz, Kingdom Hearts, and Dissidia, which were all Playstation games.
Nintendo/Sakurai clearly don't care about keeping the Smash Bros roster Nintendo-only. Nintendo and Sakurai can include any character they feel like if they think it'll make players happy or make them lots of money.
Let's get something straight.
Just because he is the most popular final fantasy character doesn't mean he is always the best choice when it comes to Nintendo all star games I can easily compare how many games have Black Mage appeared in Nintendo console and how many Cloud did appear Nintendo console and you will see a huge difference even in terms of their Nintendo history also Black Mage has existed 10 years before Cloud does and that's mean Black Mage was a kind of character that classic Nintendo/square fans have grew up with in the old generation, a character from the first final fantasy game would have the best choice because this where the final fantasy franchise has begin and was the reasons why ff7 exist, we shouldn't go with the middle age of final fantasy game character before we start with beginning, having Cloud instead of Black Mage feels for me like having Zero instead of Megaman in my opinion.
The phrase "Nintendo All-Stars" doesn't mean anything any more. All bets are off. Any one can be in Smash at this point.
So what, they're never going to show the ballot winner? So what was the point of the ballot then? Cloud obviously wasn't the winner so they'll either say "this was the ballot winner", or we'll just know if it's Shovel Knight or something. There is no reason for them to hide who the winner was.
Black Mage would've been cooler imo. But now that anyone can fight I'm gonna wait for blue silhouette guy in the beginning of Wii games to come through.
Shoot, he would've been more likely than Cloud.
The purpose of the Smash Ballot, like with all previous Smash polls, is for Masahiro Sakurai and his developement team to get a good idea of which characters people would be happiest to see. The results are then used to help choose which characters to consider, and if they have the crudentials of being either iconic or original, they are likely to appear as fighters. The reason why they wouldn't reveal who got the most votes is because it doesn't matter. As aforementioned, the character with the most votes doesn't automatically get in. Ridley is an excellent example, as he has always ranked pretty highly in unofficial Smash polls. If he was to get an overwhelming amount of votes, he still would not be included because Sakurai cannot accurately concieve of how he would function as a fighter. Ridley's size, wingspan, and reliance on aerial mobility is what's keeping him from being playable, no matter how many "votes" he gets.
It's important to know that Masahiro Sakurai has complete control over the characters included in Super Smash Bros. and is not limited by the other companies involved. For example, Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U were developed by Bandai Namco and their mascot Pac-Man is in the game. However, Pac-Man's inclusion wasn't a result of Namco's involvement. Sakurai wanted to include Pac-Man from the start. In fact, Sakurai stated that if Namco required him to use the modern, white-eyed design, Pac-Man would've been cut. That's it. He's that artisan.
When did Sakurai ever say the character with more appearances on a Nintendo console was the prime choice? Don't act like it's a given. Far too often are the arguments in the community based on groundless assumptions like these.
Okay, this is a good point but all I'm saying is they don't even have to name what number they were. Couldn't they just be like "this is the ballot character"?
That's true, and I think it's possible for them to do that, but not flat out provide the results. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't reference the Ballot at all during the December Smash Boardcast. Not because it's irrelevant - it's very relevant - but because Sakurai has already stated after Ryu's release that all future DLC fighters will be included as "fan service". There's sort of this implication that whoever remains as DLC was included solely to appeal to the fans. That's certainly true with Cloud's inclusion, even if it wasn't influenced by the Ballot. He is an icon afterall, and there's a reason why he has been present on fake rosters over the past few years.
You're right. It makes one wonder why they even kept it open as long as they did though.
I don't really know why either... it could be as basic a reason as to keep character hype alive for Smash all through the summer and fall, without the release of an actual character.
There certainly is a nice, consistent pattern. It'd be a pity if somebody was to come in and break it.
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Final Smash? Taking off the wrist strap
I don't get the swordsman complaints. Why does every character need to use their fists? No one said "****! Marth is so generic!" Other than direct clones, characters that use swords rarely feel even similar to one another. You expect me to believe Ike = Meta Knight = marth = Shulk? Get over yourself
It's SMASH brothers, I'd rather have PLATFORMER characters like most of the cast.
Generic RPG protagonist? I get if you're not a big RPG player but Cloud is hardly generic. More like he is responsible for reinventing the genre of RPGs and that's why people love him so much.
He's been done for well well WELL over a month. The ballot ended last month. This trailer probably took a week to make. The stage + cloud (which both look done) both had to have taken at least 4 months. (I'll give you that they both might have been worked on at the same time)
So? The ballot's been around for like eight months. If they started right after they released Ryu and company that'd be plenty of time to make Cloud and his stage, along with whoever else we're getting next month.
The only way Sora even touches Smash Bros right now is the day Nintendo finally allows Disney to use Mario for Disney Infinity which would be a fair deal (Disney has admitted well before 3.0's release that they want Mario to join Infinity's series as a guest character in the same way Skylanders got both Donkey Kong and Bowser for their most recent game, alongside Link and Pikachu), but knowing Disney they'd probably would let Mickey join the Smash Bros roster in return for Mario's services which is something I can see Nintendo agreeing with as it'd be 2 icons trading spots between 2 very popular games (plus Mickey meeting Pikachu alongside Mario, Sonic and Pac-man would be amazing to see in-game).
Huh. Is smashing associated with platformers? Interesting.
1. That's just your opinion. Blade Beam and a Mega Man-like slide means you can't just harass him with projectiles like Marth, Roy, Ike, or Shulk. He has no counter. The Limit Break mechanic is specific to him and will probably make him more similar to Little Mac than Shulk. Appearance-wise, he's popularized the stereotypical RPG look.
Even if that was the case, it's still just another Battlefield. We don't need more of those.
