Well anyone can contact him on twitter and ask him about it.I find it suspicious that Sal hasn't commented on this new 'leak' himself. I'll take it with a grain of salt as always.
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BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
Wait was that leak not made by Sal, if so just take it with a grain of salt..
False Sense
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Robin's popularity didn't really shoot up out of nowhere. It gradually built up until Ike was revealed, at which point Robin's popularity began increasing exponentially. A rather significant number of people would prefer a character who can offer something new to the cast of Fire Emblem characters over a character who would just give us more of what we already have, and thus, support for Robin grows. His/Her popularity is not unfounded. I understand if you don't like Robin (which I believe you've made quite clear in the past), but I don't think your dislike of the character makes him/her overrated.
Hong
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A lot of people expect a Metroid, DK or Fire Emblem newcomer to be revealed this August. I have a case that says we'll get someone else despite the Metroid anniversary, if not in conjunction.
First I'll bring up the fact Mother turns 25 on July 27. "Oh Hong. That game is a thing of a past. A mere relic; irrelevant, outdated, and not even internationally released." Oh? Sure. But then I rebuke by stating Mother 2 turns 20 on August the 27th. "Hong, anniversaries go by all the time and nothing rarely happens." True, true. But it's not just the fans who have noticed. There will be a new run of Mother 2 figurinees coming out this October to commemorate the event. Yeah. Figurines for a game in a discontinued series, when a lot of other Nintendo franchises would be begging for acknowledgement. Meanwhile Mother fans have been sitting on their arse eating peanut cheese bars.
Of course with the exception of Starmen.net's Mother anniversary celebration, which is going on almost all month.
Don't set yourself up for disappointment of course. I am anything but a prophet, and this may all but fly over Mr. Sakurai's head. That said, if there is ever a timing window for a Mother character, stage, new item or trophy, this is the time. Especially with the oh-so-likely August direct on the metaphorical horizon of ambiguity.
First I'll bring up the fact Mother turns 25 on July 27. "Oh Hong. That game is a thing of a past. A mere relic; irrelevant, outdated, and not even internationally released." Oh? Sure. But then I rebuke by stating Mother 2 turns 20 on August the 27th. "Hong, anniversaries go by all the time and nothing rarely happens." True, true. But it's not just the fans who have noticed. There will be a new run of Mother 2 figurinees coming out this October to commemorate the event. Yeah. Figurines for a game in a discontinued series, when a lot of other Nintendo franchises would be begging for acknowledgement. Meanwhile Mother fans have been sitting on their arse eating peanut cheese bars.
Of course with the exception of Starmen.net's Mother anniversary celebration, which is going on almost all month.
Don't set yourself up for disappointment of course. I am anything but a prophet, and this may all but fly over Mr. Sakurai's head. That said, if there is ever a timing window for a Mother character, stage, new item or trophy, this is the time. Especially with the oh-so-likely August direct on the metaphorical horizon of ambiguity.
EbonyRubberWolf
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Ahahahahahahaha. Really now? Gematsu plus? Come on. The thing reads like a fanboy's dream. Ridley's presence on it alone pretty much DQs it.
Someone want to fill me in on this "Leak".
Specifically why it is relevant.
EbonyRubberWolf
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Third one's the charm. Er, Chrom. :D
I think Ness is going to be kept under tight wraps, or at least as tight as manageable. Given Lucas's likely dismissal, we have to assume MOTHER becomes a 'wtf' series alongside IC, R.O.B., and G-Dub again. Maybe a hint, but nothing concrete I bet.
Morbi
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The presence of one character that you do not personally find feasible hardly "DQs" the leak. I do not believe it myself; however, it seems as though you have no objective evidence, or anything relevant to contribute pertaining to its validity.
EbonyRubberWolf
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Aside from the April 8th Direct. But yeah, nothing against Ridley or anything. Y'know, like how folk thought Brawl's Ridley was gonna turn out(totally a playable size/gotta include him this time/its what the fans WAAAAAANT) versus how he did turn out. Also, Ridleychat.
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Personally I think Ness will be given the Bowser treatment, like ZSS and Yoshi, and will have a public debut prior to release.
Lucas is SOL, though.
Morbi
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As I just stated, there is no objective evidence therefore the conclusion is fallacious. The April 8th Direct did not definitively confirm anything one way or the other. So using an ambiguous quote to refute a leak that is completely unrelated is utterly arbitrary.
Something similar would be, " the Gematsu leak is fake because Chrom is on it and Mercer was not yet contacted to do the voice-work." It does not actually prove anything and there are several explanations as to why that might be. In fact, it is about as insightful as a post such as...
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We've taken enough grains of salt with this leak to fill a shaker, I think we can stop taking it with any salt and just go with it at this point.
Fo reals.
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Why not take it with a grain of pepper?
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Dix, Isaac and Ridley...
Yeaah. I pass. Too good to be true.
EDIT: Oh, it's from Gamefaqs. Why we keep giving attention to these "leaks"? I think we should just stick with the Gematsu-one and disregard everything else - because frankly, these "leaks" are already enough of attention whoring than they are.
Yeaah. I pass. Too good to be true.
EDIT: Oh, it's from Gamefaqs. Why we keep giving attention to these "leaks"? I think we should just stick with the Gematsu-one and disregard everything else - because frankly, these "leaks" are already enough of attention whoring than they are.
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Morbi
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Dixie Kong, Isaac and Ridley...
Yeaah. It is so horrible that it might actually be true.
True Blue Warrior
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I always joke about Toon Zelda and honestly, I wouldn't really be mad if she managed to make it in, considering just how hilarious the idea is. I wonder just how cloney she will be. Melee cloney or more different than that?
Hey, that's BKupa's catchphrase! How dare you, Xenoblaze!
Morbi
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I honestly would not mind Toon Zelda regardless of whether or not I find the idea to be hilarious. Obviously I would prefer Tetra, especially given the notion that transformation characters are not going to be present; however, as a fan of Zelda's play-style, I would not mind a variant. I feel/felt the same way about Toon Link. The real question: when are we getting Toon Ganondorf?
AncientTobacco
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Morbi
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Unfortunately, Ganon is already an aspect of Ganondorf's move-set, his Final Smash.The real real question: When are we getting Ganon?
The models seem to be predominantly based on Twilight Princess. So Ganon is impossible unless they want to give him the Ivysaur treatment.
But in that event, he would not be able to ride a Gogoat, therefore he is deconfirmed.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about this requirement. So Chorus Kids deconfirmed because 3 people can't ride a Gogoat?But in that event, he would not be able to ride a Gogoat, therefore he is deconfirmed.
AncientTobacco
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Yes. Also Mr. G&W deconfirmed because a 2D character can't ride a Gogoat.
Of course, Ridley is too big to ride a Gogoat, so he's deconfirmed as well.
FlareHabanero
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You knoe The Legend of Zelda has really bad options when another varient of Ganon is the best people can come up with.
Which also brings up the point that people are ignoring the part where The Legend of Zelda doesn't have anything of value, the series is already getting a lot more exposure then normal, and the characters we do have suck horribly.
Which also brings up the point that people are ignoring the part where The Legend of Zelda doesn't have anything of value, the series is already getting a lot more exposure then normal, and the characters we do have suck horribly.
True Blue Warrior
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Clearly Sakurai disagrees with you. Apparently he still thinks we need more LoZ characters as shown by the fact that Toon Zelda was planned for Brawl.
I think it would be hilarious if she didn't turn out to be a clone at all. Maybe she would still have the Phantom Slash, but everything else would be an original move set. That would catch everybody by surprise.
Morbi
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I am actually quite fond of Smash's representation of the Legend of Zelda characters myself, I suppose it is a subjective notion. I understand that most people labor a disdain for anything reminiscent of clone-esque attributes; however, it is difficult to complain given the circumstances of the situation.
I feel as though Tingle and Impa are fairly ideal Legend of Zelda characters, albeit Tingle is obviously confirmed as an assist trophy. Ghirahim is not a bad choice in the slightest either, he is just not prevalent enough to accrue reasonable support.
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I'm fine with the Zelda characters too. Maybe it's because I haven't played any Zelda games outside of Wind Waker, but I think the Zelda roster is fine. I've also never had an issue with clones.
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Maxilian
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Actually many people come with the idea of a "second ganondorf" cause we have 2 Links and 2 Zeldas, also... there are a couple of good options for another Zelda chacter:
-GHIRAHIM!
-Vaati
-Tetra
-Midna (AT so no)
-Tingle (AT and i hate these guy, so no)
-Skull Kid (AT so no)
and so on
FlareHabanero
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Wow that's atrocious.Actually many people come with the idea of a "second ganondorf" cause we have 2 Links and 2 Zeldas, also... there are a couple of good options for another Zelda chacter:
-GHIRAHIM!
-Vaati
-Tetra
-Midna (AT so no)
-Tingle (AT and i hate these guy, so no)
-Skull Kid (AT so no)
and so on
Maxilian
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Huh?
I agree that Ghirahim is not prevalent (well he's really important lorewise but he's also another villain that have only appear in 1 Zelda game but that doesn't mean he can't come back in the future)
Louie G.
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Tingle was the best choice, but now he's an AT.
I don't think that Zelda is really big enough for 6 characters.
Pokemon? Sure! Mario? Of course! But these series have sold hundreds of millions of copies.
Zelda is more up to par with DK, which again makes me salty that it only has two characters.
I don't think that Zelda is really big enough for 6 characters.
Pokemon? Sure! Mario? Of course! But these series have sold hundreds of millions of copies.
Zelda is more up to par with DK, which again makes me salty that it only has two characters.
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Maxilian
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Zelda up to par with DK?... how dare you?! Zelda is one of the biggest franchise that Nintendo have, it sells way more than DK and Metroid, also... remember that Tingle is really hated by the Western community
Louie G.
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Legend of Zelda - 68.13 million copies.
DK - 53.994 million copies.
And I don't think Zelda was the catalyst for Nintendo's video game success.
Zelda's important, but probably about as important as DK, if not less tbh.
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FlareHabanero
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It's not even that, it's the part where The Legend of Zelda doesn't offer anything of substance due to every notable inclusion already being present front and center while everything else is not worth mentioning.
Kinglypuff
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For the Zelda franchise, I think Impa is the best next rep they can come up with ; she's one of the only character to appear in multiple titles and to have decent fighting skills in some of them. She also was a major character in Skyward Sword and one of the main playables in Hyrule Warriors.
This might be too new to be relevant, but I do think Impa is a lock for the next-installment Smash, or could even be in this one in the form of a DLC.
This might be too new to be relevant, but I do think Impa is a lock for the next-installment Smash, or could even be in this one in the form of a DLC.
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And Little Mac was basically unknown by the Eastern community.
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Oh, that's not subjective at all.
Maxilian
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Is better to be unknown than hated at least in these case
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Better remove every single character with a hatebase then!
Louie G.
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There are some interesting Zelda characters, but in the long run they just aren't important enough to make the cut.
Before anyone brings up Sheik, remember that Sheik was originally a transformation for Zelda; she wouldn't have made it otherwise. No point in taking her out though, since she's essentially a staple to the series now.
Ghirahim, Skull Kid, Midna...
They could be cool, but starring in one game (we aren't going to count Hyrule Warriors here) isn't really enough for them to get into Smash IMO.
As for Tingle and Impa, they bring some cool/unique gameplay elements to the table and are important enough in the games to warrant a spot in the game. With a big series like Zelda, we should only have the most important characters in the series.
We have the core group now: even Tingle and Impa aren't really necessary.
Before anyone brings up Sheik, remember that Sheik was originally a transformation for Zelda; she wouldn't have made it otherwise. No point in taking her out though, since she's essentially a staple to the series now.
Ghirahim, Skull Kid, Midna...
They could be cool, but starring in one game (we aren't going to count Hyrule Warriors here) isn't really enough for them to get into Smash IMO.
As for Tingle and Impa, they bring some cool/unique gameplay elements to the table and are important enough in the games to warrant a spot in the game. With a big series like Zelda, we should only have the most important characters in the series.
We have the core group now: even Tingle and Impa aren't really necessary.
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