Rockaphin
Smash Champion
Right, which is why I said unless they're separate. Toon Zelda alone, in my opinion would be low though.
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Maxilian
Smash Ace
I would love to see Ghirahim but i don't think he will be playable
(I doubt that we will get another Zelda character in general)Why so much hate for Ghirahim? why do you dislike him that much?
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Jason the Yoshi
Watching Me, Wanting Me
Me too. But I will admit, the main reason I don't want ghirahim in the game is kinda dorky.
ChunkyBeef
Smash Lord
I don't HATE Ghirahim. It's just my personal preference, honestly, to see someone like Vaati get in before Ghirahim. Heck, I'd even take sexy Hyrule Warriors Impa over Ghirahim. Mmf.Why so much hate for Ghirahim? why do you dislike him that much?
But yeah. It's all personal preference, there's no hate. I was merely exaggerating for comedic effect.
That's the beautiful thing about opinions, brother. No matter how justified or dorky they are, they're still your opinions. Stick to your guns. Though I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to know.
Rockaphin
Smash Champion
I know you weren't replying to me, but the reason I don't support Ghirahim is simply because I don't know him. I've yet to play Skyward Sword. So therefore I support other Zelda characters(Vaati, Ganon, Skull Kid) that I at least know.Why so much hate for Ghirahim? why do you dislike him that much?
Maxilian
Smash Ace
You should play it, and i'm pretty sure you will love him also... I also like Vaati and Skull Kid, sadly Skull Kid is an AT and Vaati... well i prefer Ghirahim over him but if i get him i will still be happy.
Well... may i know why you dislike him to the point that you prefer a character that you have only seen the face off (Hyrule Warrior's Impa)
ChunkyBeef
Smash Lord
Like I said, personal preference. I don't really have a legitimate reason other than she's got some nice tracts of land, and I've got a thing for chicks with white hair, none of which are legitimate things to bring up as reasons, so I left them out on purpose.Well... may i know why you dislike him to the point that you prefer a character that you have only seen the face off (Hyrule Warrior's Impa)
Just to say, I've played Skyward Sword. I didn't enjoy it as much as I've enjoyed some other Zelda, but that didn't mean I wasn't invested in the characters. Though if I were to come up with a reason as to why I prefer Vaati over Ghirahim, it's mostly because I feel he'd be a better pick, being Zelda's recurring villain that's not Ganon/Ganondorf. Plus, I'd love to see Sakurai explore a magical moveset that isn't mostly defensive, like Zelda's is.
Again, not really valid arguments since it's just personal preference. I know lots of people who love Ghirahim, and if he winds up in, hey, good for them (and for you, too!), 'cause I know that's going to make people genuinely pleased.
I just don't prefer him.
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Con0rrrr
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I really feel compelled to think that DLC characters may be coming to Smash. After MK8 is confirmed to have them, I can only see it happening for Smash as well. And I feel like with that, in my eyes, it makes some rumored and well liked characters more "DLC" material than core game. Characters like this would be Bandana Dee and Hades. Extras to two already represented franchises from Sakurai, so if after the game is released Sakurai decides to add some new characters he wouldn't have to go through "getting permission" to add them. Of course he'd have to go through Nintendo to check if it's even okay to create DLC, but I'm sure they'd see the value in DLC for Smash.
Also, it could be a great opportunity for them to release free characters to promote new titles. Say Miyamoto's new IP comes out and it's just doing alright. Not incredible. Nintendo then releases an update for Smash that adds in that character for free which is an incredible idea because it is free promotion for a new title. And Smash is sure to one of the top 3 games of the Wii U's life, especially if it has competitive aspects to make it last like Melee. Also, say a title is not doing so well that Nintendo wants to do well, say, an Excitebike reboot or something. Release excitebiker as a character = free promotion.
Also, it could be a great opportunity for them to release free characters to promote new titles. Say Miyamoto's new IP comes out and it's just doing alright. Not incredible. Nintendo then releases an update for Smash that adds in that character for free which is an incredible idea because it is free promotion for a new title. And Smash is sure to one of the top 3 games of the Wii U's life, especially if it has competitive aspects to make it last like Melee. Also, say a title is not doing so well that Nintendo wants to do well, say, an Excitebike reboot or something. Release excitebiker as a character = free promotion.
praline
the white witch
If transforming characters weren't split we probably would have a new Zelda character but honestly Zelda doesn't really have any characters worthy of playable status outside the main 3.I would love to see Ghirahim but i don't think he will be playable
Why so much hate for Ghirahim? why do you dislike him that much?
Ah I didn't see that.
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Dalek_Kolt
Smash Master
My too sense;
I don't want Ghirahim in the game. I like him, but he's still a one-shot villain. If he made it in, it would be like if Malladus or Phantom Bellum or Yuga made it as a major representative of Zelda.
For me, it's either Pig Ganon, or Vaati. And Vaati has it rough, because the Toon timeline is already pretty represented.
I don't want Ghirahim in the game. I like him, but he's still a one-shot villain. If he made it in, it would be like if Malladus or Phantom Bellum or Yuga made it as a major representative of Zelda.
For me, it's either Pig Ganon, or Vaati. And Vaati has it rough, because the Toon timeline is already pretty represented.
Jason the Yoshi
Watching Me, Wanting Me
Honestly, as far as Zelda newcomers go, I would be ok with Vaati, I'd die of excitement if Toon Zelda made it in, kinda excited if Groose or Pig Ganon got in, but Ghirahim I don't want in the game.
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TumblrFamous
Smash Hero
Do you mean my two cents?
Dalek_Kolt
Smash Master
I no what I said.
Ugh. Ghirahim. That overrated piece of garbage. I mean, I don't mean to insult the fan, but I'm not exactly a fan of effefeminate, useless puppet villains who have weird tendencies. Especially in a game that is marketed slightly towards children. Gross fart humor and spandex should be enough, no weird, pedophilac Demon Kings for me.
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Got that out of my system. Continue with speculation.
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Got that out of my system. Continue with speculation.
aldelaro5
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I really don't need to make a support tier because of how simple it is. Basically, I support strongly Paper Mario, great support for ridley and the rest I either would like them without caring too much or I'm neutral but there's no hate tier. I said it multiple time that I'm playing smash for all the content not just the characters so this explains why if king k rool is confirmed, it would be good but I won't care that much (it's more I like/neutrality).
Second Power
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Then why not add another of the main three: Ganon?
I don't care for Ghirahim either, but there's no evidence of him being a puppet villain. As far as I'm aware, Demise was sealed for the entirety of the game. I imagine the prison Hylia put him in doesn't have the emails-to-the-outside accommodation ours do.
Morbi
Scavenger
Why have a second Ganondorf-esque character when we already have a second Zelda and a second Link? That would be pointless and a waste of a slot.
Dalek_Kolt
Smash Master
Not sure if you're joking, but I'd like to see Pig Ganon as a fighter.
Morbi
Scavenger
I am being completely and utterly serious. It is not as though Ganon is one of the only characters I support or anything.
JFM2796
Smash Journeyman
Ghirahim does have potential to be a mainstay in the Zelda series, I'll acknowledge that even though I don't like him very much. I'd rather have Groose personally, just to see the rage that would ensue.
I'm going to need a bullet-proof vest for all these shots being fired.
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Dalek_Kolt
Smash Master
Well, I was going to pin you as a Ganon supporter, but then I saw how much you liked Marth.I am being completely and utterly serious. It is not as though Ganon is one of the only characters I support or anything.
Morbi
Scavenger
Ah, I just changed my "mains" to Marth because I am enjoying Fire Emblem. I just use those as cool little emoticons. Ganon is certainly one of my most anticipated characters and one of the only characters that I actually main. I would love to see him in the game.
AncientTobacco
Smash Lord
He became a sword and died.
Dalek_Kolt
Smash Master
I now kinda want that on my gravestone now.
Here lies Dalek Kolt. He became a sword and died.
Well, I sure do like this support chart idea, so here's mine!
This list is based off the American grading scale, A-F without E.
A characters I significantly want.
B characters aren't must haves, but would be great.
C is for characters I kinda like, but are mostly meh about.
D is meh characters
F are characters I never want to see playable in Smash for several reasons, so this is more of a "failure to get me to support" area.
This list is based off the American grading scale, A-F without E.
A characters I significantly want.
B characters aren't must haves, but would be great.
C is for characters I kinda like, but are mostly meh about.
D is meh characters
F are characters I never want to see playable in Smash for several reasons, so this is more of a "failure to get me to support" area.
JFM2796
Smash Journeyman
He just kind of disappeared I thought?
Second Power
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His fate was left ambiguous actually. For one thing, it's not like Fi transforming into a sword kills her, and they're most definitely related in some way. And, it's not like we see Ghirahim die. We see him disappear. And considering this is from a character who has shown he's able to teleport, it doesn't mean much. Additionally, he didn't have any trouble ditching Demise when Demise got sealed. The way Demise looks at his hand after Ghirahim disappears could easily have been a "Oh, you *******" face.
Nevermind that death means next to squat in Zelda.
AncientTobacco
Smash Lord
Assuming he even lived on inside the sword (which I doubt considering his rather violent rebirth), it disintegrates shortly before Demise meets his demise.
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Con0rrrr
PPMD Kreygasm
If you don't mind me asking, how do you guys make these roster lists/predictions? Is it a program? Because almost all of the post have similar looking roster themes
AncientTobacco
Smash Lord
JFM2796
Smash Journeyman
I think it's reasonable to assume he survived the transition into sword form, seeing as Demise used the Evil Master Sword in ancient times. Wasn't the disintegration effect similar to the way Ghirahim teleports? I don't remember I haven't played that game in about two years.
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AncientTobacco
Smash Lord
Nope. Ghirahim's teleportation effect is little diamond-shaped pieces. When the sword disintegrates it just turns into smoke and particles.
TheLippyLapras
Smash Journeyman
Not gonna lie, I know it's not happening, but I'd love to see them pull Daroach out of their hat and flip the fans onto their heads.
Depressed Gengar
Hana Is Best Girl
Might as well.
A Tier: King K. Rool, Ridley, Kamek, Bandana Dee, Medusa, Toad, Meowth, Black Mage, Pac-Man, Isaac
B Tier: Cranky Kong, Captain Syrup, Funky Kong, Lief, Chef Kawasaki, Paper Mario, Vaati, Anna, Balloon Fighter, Andy
C Tier: Mach Rider, Bowser Jr., Dr. Lobe, Zoroark, Impa, Takamaru, Stork, Kraid, Starfy, Duck Hunt Dog
B Tier: Cranky Kong, Captain Syrup, Funky Kong, Lief, Chef Kawasaki, Paper Mario, Vaati, Anna, Balloon Fighter, Andy
C Tier: Mach Rider, Bowser Jr., Dr. Lobe, Zoroark, Impa, Takamaru, Stork, Kraid, Starfy, Duck Hunt Dog
Morbi
Scavenger
I would not be entirely satisfied as Mega Man already has something similar, as such it would feel uninspired. But as a Legend of Zelda fan, I would quite literally faint.
I rather see him trip in LSD, imagine everyone turning into pots and go on a murder rampage.
Leafeon523
Smash Ace
You shouldn't say things like this. It seems like it could easily lead to flame wars.
Other than that, I really like this trend of support tiers!
Smashoperatingbuddy123
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Good job
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