Character Discussion Thread

[Bowserlick]

Well actually Mii represents mii and u.

 

[Headcrab Jackalope]

Pfffft. Who needs Miis when you have Wandering Heroes. They represent Find Mii and could have a cooler moveset than Miis with magic, swordplay, shields, and summons! Plus they come in Dog and Cat flavors! They could even be a duo!

YA'LL SPECULATORS NEED WANDERING HEROES

 

[Glyphoscythe]

People, it is painfully obvious that the ganondorf we know from melee and brawl will get the axe...new and improved ganondorf will take his place

New and improved Dorf deserves his own reveal trailer. That would get me more hyped than any newcomer.

 

[Bowserlick]

Here is a Mii idea.

You load a Mii you created. Depending on your shirt color, height, weight, facial features, hair or lack of hair different attributes and/or B moves are given to you. So each Mii is different.

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

BAM. "This guy" ^.

Also magic powers change depending on shirt color. BOIIIIIIIIIII.

 

[Phaazoid]

"Prop-swinging lightweights." "Customizable humanoid." Yeah, good points, I can see where you all are coming from. But you can't deny that they can in fact differentiate themselves from the Villager/G&W/WFT. None of them use magic, none of them wield a sword, none of them have a shield, none of them use musical instruments, etc etc.

They could totally differentiate themselves from anyone on the cast. I won't argue that.

I just have an internal bias against them, I guess. They are semi-interesting as avatars, but that's about it. I don't like them interacting with Nintendo characters. I wish they weren't in the Mario Kart series, either.

huh. not used to being a hater.

 

[Cpt.]

Ugh Mii. I don't want to even argue over them. I'm just going to say that I don't like em.

 

[ultimatekoopa]

New and improved Dorf deserves his own reveal trailer. That would get me more hyped than any newcomer.

We see Bowser fighting falcon, falcon tries to use falcon punch on bowser, bowser easily dodges and knocks falcon, ganondorf appears and challenges bowser, ganondorf tries to use dark falcon punch on bowser but bowser dodges it and kicks him, heavily damaging him, ganondorf gets a flashback of all his fights with Link and remembers everything and takes a notes that he wrote before going there, bowser smiles and starts walking towards ganondorf, ganondorf laughs and throws an electric ball to bowser "Ganondorf remembers his moves" then he takes his two swords "ganondorf remembered to bring his swords" and then ganondorf beats the crap outta bowser an we have his new moveset trailer

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

"Prop-swinging lightweights." "Customizable humanoid." Yeah, good points, I can see where you all are coming from. But you can't deny that they can in fact differentiate themselves from the Villager/G&W/WFT. None of them use magic, none of them wield a sword, none of them have a shield, none of them use musical instruments, etc etc.

There's a difference between them being able to, and not needing to be forced to. The Miis would need to be forced around the Villager's moveset, and that just doesn't seem right, imo.

 

[BKupa666]

Eh, okay, the Miis could "do different things." Excuse me while I go support other characters who can also do different things and be ten times more interesting to me in the process.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Personally, they're essentially a "troll mode" being thrown into a fanbase full of trolls. They're also a non-character whose moveset is utterly redundant in a game with both Game & Watch and Villager being prop-swinging lightweights.

Yup. Really redundant..

Really, the more I see the "Doesn't bring anything new" argument, the more I think it's just a convenient argument that anyone uses when they don't want a character.

 

[Kenith]

Yup. Really redundant..

Really, the more I see the "Doesn't bring anything new" argument, the more I think it's just a convenient argument that anyone uses when they don't want a character.

Two of those characters are omitted from the newest game, and the rest fight completely differently, sans Toon Link, but he is intentionally a clone.

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

They could totally differentiate themselves from anyone on the cast. I won't argue that.

I just have an internal bias against them, I guess. They are semi-interesting as avatars, but that's about it. I don't like them interacting with Nintendo characters. I wish they weren't in the Mario Kart series, either.

huh. not used to being a hater.

Yeah, I'm not too fond of them appearing in the Mario games either. I'd much rather have them as a visual representation of one's account. I guess now we have the Nintendo Network and they are being used somewhat in that fashion. However I do tend to gravitate towards their use in Mario Kart if I'm indecisive. Isn't that pretty self-contradictory of me?

There's a difference between them being able to, and not needing to be forced to. The Miis would need to be forced around the Villager's moveset, and that just doesn't seem right, imo.

Eh, no they wouldn't. What does the villager have in common with Miis? The boxing gloves and bowling ball. That's really it. All the rest of the Villager's moveset is all based on Animal Crossing, with zero similarities to any Mii-starring title. Look to Wii Sports, Play, Play Plus, Sports Resort, Party, Party U, Find Mii, Streetpass Mii Plaza DLC games, Nintendo Land...I'm telling you, they've got a ginormous reportoire of potential moves, man.

 

[Morbi]

People, it is painfully obvious that the ganondorf we know from melee and brawl will get the axe...new and improved ganondorf will take his place

No, it isn't painfully obvious. It is far more likely that he will treat Ganondorf as he treats all other semi-clones. He will further declone him, Ganondorf will keep his original moves. I mean, I suppose he will be new and improved to an extent. Just don't expect an entire overhaul.

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

Eh, no they wouldn't. What does the villager have in common with Miis? The boxing gloves and bowling ball. That's really it.

Don't forget the entire gimmik. That's a pretty important one.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

and the rest fight completely differently, sans Toon Link, but he is intentionally a clone.

That was my point....

 

[Kenith]

Eh, no they wouldn't. What does the villager have in common with Miis? The boxing gloves and bowling ball. That's really it. All the rest of the Villager's moveset is all based on Animal Crossing, with zero similarities to any Mii-starring title. Look to Wii Sports, Play, Play Plus, Sports Resort, Party, Party U, Find Mii, Streetpass Mii Plaza DLC games, Nintendo Land...I'm telling you, they've got a ginormous reportoire of potential moves, man.

It isn't the specific actions that are seen as redundant. It is the general concept of a character designed as an avatar using everyday objects in combat.

 

[BKupa666]

Yup. Really redundant..

Really, the more I see the "Doesn't bring anything new" argument, the more I think it's just a convenient argument that anyone uses when they don't want a character.

Listing Link and his two clones (one of whom is polarizing even now), plus Marth and his clone perhaps isn't the best argument that redundancy is avoidable within an archetype.

Here's my comparison: Isaac hypothetically gets into Brawl, and now, we get both Saki and Shulk turned playable. Can they be differentiated from each other. Yeah. Does their simultaneous inclusion as three blond young male sword users from D or F-List RPGs feel hackneyed and drab? Absolutely, IMO.

 

[Phaazoid]

Yeah, I'm not too fond of them appearing in the Mario games either. I'd much rather have them as a visual representation of one's account. I guess now we have the Nintendo Network and they are being used somewhat in that fashion. However I do tend to gravitate towards their use in Mario Kart if I'm indecisive. Isn't that pretty self-contradictory of me?

Eh, I only admit to being a hypocrite when it's useful for making a point.

I'll admit, I think Mii's are more deserving than a whole lot of other suggestions I've seen. I guess I wouldn't be angered with them if some others from my wishlist got in.

I just don't feel they are necessarily central to Nintendo history, or needed characters in the slightest.

 

[OblivionWolf]

Pfffft. Who needs Miis when you have Wandering Heroes. They represent Find Mii and could have a cooler moveset than Miis with magic, swordplay, shields, and summons! Plus they come in Dog and Cat flavors! They could even be a duo!

YA'LL SPECULATORS NEED WANDERING HEROES

If Mii's do get in and don't get a Wandering Heroes alts I'll be sad.

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

It isn't the specific actions that are seen as redundant. It is the general concept of a character designed as an avatar using everyday objects in combat.

Swords, shields, hangliders, all-encompassing bubbles, magic...pretty common household items, I tell you.

Excuse my sass.

 

[Kenith]

Swords, shields, hangliders, all-encompassing bubbles, magic...pretty common household items, I tell you.

Excuse my sass.

Also, the various sports equipment and household objects you listed before when it served your point but neglected to mention when it served mine.

 

[Morbi]

The only thing that bothers me about Mii characters: The nature of playable Miis is inherently antithetical. If Sakurai creates a move-set for Miis, that defeats the aspect of customization. The reason for their existence. And again, as everyone stated, if he were to make a move-set anyways, we would be missing the bowling ball and boxing gloves.

But other than that. I am fond of my Mii, so I would be content either way. I hate them, but I love Mii!

 

[Plain Yogurt]

Miis could certainly have an interesting moveset, but I'm not particularly fond of them. That said, I would absolutely love to run over Nintendo's greatest characters with a cow.

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

Also, the various sports equipment and household objects you listed before when it served your point but neglected to mention when it served mine.

I already mentioned that some of those moves were already taken by Peach and Villager...

Yes I am using those things to serve my point. Because quite frankly, Find Mii IS getting some representation, and if "everyday" objects don't differentiate them from the pack, then their other powers/items/equipment featured in that title will.

 

[Bowserlick]

Mii visually represents the player. So I do not think that the moveset has to necessarily be customizable.

Maybe three weight classes. Would be cool if you could alternate between the weight classes (all having tweaked stats) with down B.

 

[Kenith]

I already mentioned that some of those moves were already taken by Peach and Villager...

Yes I am using those things to serve my point. Because quite frankly, Find Mii IS getting some representation, and if "everyday" objects don't differentiate them from the pack, then their other powers/items/equipment featured in that title will.

Again, it is the general concept, not the specific instances of the items.

 

[Cpt.]

Mii could be ok if they were different from Villager and G&W and Peach. The thing that really bothers me about them is that they would be us. We are not Nintendo All-Stars.

 

[aldelaro5]

Eh, okay, the Miis could "do different things." Excuse me while I go support other characters who can also do different things and be ten times more interesting to me in the process.

Then, click on my sig!!!

(Really shameless plug ahh...)

 

[OblivionWolf]

Eh, I only admit to being a hypocrite when it's useful for making a point.

I'll admit, I think Mii's are more deserving than a whole lot of other suggestions I've seen. I guess I wouldn't be angered with them if some others from my wishlist got in.

I just don't feel they are necessarily central to Nintendo history, or needed characters in the slightest.

I think they will just be Global Smash Power avatars.

And a background cameo....

But I hope for the best for people who want them in....

 

[Morbi]

Mii could be ok if they were different from Villager and G&W and Peach. The thing that really bothers me about them is that they would be us. We are not Nintendo All-Stars.

Without us; there is no Nintendo. We are arguably more important than even Mario. Contemplate that!

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

Again, it is the general concept, not the specific instances of the items.

Well, then maybe they won't be caged in a general concept! Maybe, they ain't gonna fight with sports/everyday items! Maybe they're gonna don a sword and shield and some magic power and maybe hop into a spaceship for their Final Smash! The games in the Streetpass Mii Plaza have probably been among one of their most "game-y" roles, given that they've been playing sports and board games and music most of the time in their games!

 

[Deleted member]

Ganondorf is more likely over Ghirahim, due to a variety of factors, which I'm sure you know. Reoccurring in Smash and Zelda, ect... All I'm saying is that there is a CHANCE, however big or small, that he Ghirahim could make an appearance in Smash. However, I also don't think the rep. cap. per franchise will exceed 5 this time around, making me think both will not make it. Only Ganondorf(likely) OR Ghirahim.

Yes, there is a chance Ghirahim can be in Smash Bros.
However, it will not be at the expense of Ganondorf, that I can say with upmost fact. It isn't my opinion. So if the arbitrary "rep cap" of 5 applies, then Ghirahim's chances would go from "possible" to "impossible".

 

[Kenith]

Well, then maybe they won't be caged in a general concept! Maybe, they ain't gonna fight with sports/everyday items! Maybe they're gonna don a sword and shield and some magic power and maybe hop into a spaceship for their Final Smash! The games in the Streetpass Mii Plaza have probably been among one of their most "game-y" roles, given that they've been playing sports and board games and music most of the time in their games!

All of those things have been done by other characters, and putting them all in one movesets doesn't make them unique - it just makes them another "random" character.

 

[Cpt.]

Without us; there is no Nintendo. We are arguably more important than even Mario. Contemplate that!

No, I'm sorry. There are soooo many people who play Nintendo games. Saying that each and every one of them is more important to Nintendo than Mario is backwards. We aren't Nintendo's heroes, Nintendo makes the heroes for us to play as.

BTW, without us buying/playing the games there would be a Nintendo. There would be less of it no doubt, but there would still be a Nintendo.

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

I'm just saying, Miis would be cool. Maybe there wouldn't be a default moveset. Rather, you would be forced to customize your Mii's moveset. That would make them stand out.

 

[False Sense]

I'm just saying, Miis would be cool. Maybe there wouldn't be a default moveset. Rather, you would be forced to customize your Mii's moveset. That would make them stand out.

Seems kind of an odd thing to do when every character's move set is customizable.

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

Yeah, but that'd be the Mii's thing. You'd have to customize it, and save moveset data for every Mii you can customize. Maybe you could do that for other characters too but for the Mii's that'd be what makes them unique. Required customization. Not the most convenient one, given that it's something you'd have to do prior to actually playing as one.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I'm doubting Mewtwo.

MAKE ME DOUBT HIM LESS PLEASE!

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

Your hope is but only in the word of Sakurai: "We are thinking about it."

Since Sakurai went with the fan-favorite/most represented version of Mega Charizard, I'm guessing that if Mewtwo is in he'll turn into Mega Mewtwo Y for his Final Smash.

Mega Evolutions for half the Pokemon characters. Good lord.